Arizona taking it to the next level: Teachers with accent banned teaching english
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Everybody has an accent, hell, we alone have many accents.
What kind of accents are banned. Is it just really heavy accents or is it everything but American Accents?
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Everybody welcome to Arizona.[/QUOTE]
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English teachers only tell you to read. What's the problem?
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Fucking Arizona...
[QUOTE=CriticalThought;21664226][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O8EZDNpa3o[/media][/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoWkNVctUtc[/media]
EDIT: I wish this is how my parents read this story.
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Jamaican accents really aren't that hard to understand.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;21664408]If you haven't mastered the verbal part of a language you haven't mastered it at all.
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@critical[/QUOTE]
Well then you should take a class to learn it shouldn't you?
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[QUOTE=Lambeth;21664752]Jamaican accents really aren't that hard to understand.[/QUOTE]
They are if you are trying to learn english
A class won't change an accent, if that's what you're saying.
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are you talking about the student or the teacher that could be potentially banned?
Jesus you guys need to give this shit a rest.
You're so quick to jump down someone's throat because you think their racist without rationally giving it a good thought.
Do you truly think it's a good idea to have people who have accents teach children English? It's not because "they sound funny", it's because it causes confusion for the learners.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;21664841]Jesus you guys need to give this shit a rest.
You're so quick to jump down someone's throat because you think their racist without rationally giving it a good thought.
Do you truly think it's a good idea to have people who have accents teach children English? It's not because "they sound funny", it's because it causes confusion for the learners.[/QUOTE]
yeah I find nothing wrong with it.
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Am I in the minority?
[QUOTE=Lambeth;21664339]Learning english/french/whatever starts when you're a baby, not by the time you get to school.[/QUOTE]
Because living in Canada, I start learning Chinese when I was a baby.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;21664662]I don't think they're talking about High schools, Elementary more like[/QUOTE]
That isn't stated. My dad's wife had a job teaching english to immigrants that were adults.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;21664793]are you talking about the student or the teacher that could be potentially banned?[/QUOTE]
What do you think?
[QUOTE=Lambeth;21664874]yeah I find nothing wrong with it.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Lambeth;21664408]If you haven't mastered the verbal part of a language you haven't mastered it at all.
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@critical[/QUOTE]
Trust me, there are languages that are impossible to master. Yes, even indo-european ones.
I love how some of you deny the accusations that Arizona's actions as of late have been blatantly racist. And yet, how many other states have we seen in the past 2 weeks specifically targeting individuals of latin-american decent?
[QUOTE=CriticalThought;21664932][QUOTE=Lambeth;21664339]Learning english/french/whatever starts when you're a baby, not by the time you get to school.[/QUOTE]
Because living in Canada, I start learning Chinese when I was a baby.
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What? If your parents are Chinese, yeah.
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Assuming they're competent parents, they'll do things like read you a bed time story and have you try to say words.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;21664967]What? If your parents are Chinese, yeah.
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Assuming they're competent parents, they'll do things like read you a bed time story and have you try to say words.[/QUOTE]
You seem to have missed the point.
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[QUOTE=Lambeth;21664662]I don't think they're talking about High schools, Elementary more like[/QUOTE]
That isn't stated. My dad's wife had a job teaching english to immigrants that were adults.
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Alright, blame it on lackluster reporting then.
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[QUOTE=CriticalThought;21665015]You seem to have missed the point.[/QUOTE]
Spell it out for me then.
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Perhaps you missed the point of my statement beforehand.
I hate to admit it but I'm starting to seriously hate my state now.
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[QUOTE=Lambeth;21664874]yeah I find nothing wrong with it.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
If you think I'm wrong say why I'm wrong, don't roll your eyes at me like a fucking teenager.
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Spit out that gum too
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and turn down that hippity hop music
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Having someone teach you English with a foreign accent is like having a Vocal trainer that's tone deaf.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;21665133]Having someone teach you English with a foreign accent is like having a Vocal trainer that's tone deaf.[/QUOTE]
even if we are talking about a British dude with a thick accent?
I mean if anyone knows how to speak English it's them
I see where they are going and what they are trying to stop but I don't think this is doing any good.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;21665162]even if we are talking about a British dude with a thick accent?
I mean if anyone knows how to speak English it's them[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure how they would deal with this.
Logically though I would think that it's still an English accent, and not a foreign language accent, so it would be alright.
Dur, welcome to West Carolina, formerly Arizona. If you look illegal, we will kick you out.
Seriously Arizona, you trying to piss off everyone, or just the immigrants and foreign people?
[QUOTE=ForcedDj;21665201]Dur, welcome to West Carolina, formerly Arizona. If you look illegal, we will kick you out.
Seriously Arizona, you trying to piss off everyone, or just the immigrants and foreign people?[/QUOTE]
I don't know why they would piss off immigrants. Legal immigrants aren't the issue. It has nothing to do with looking illegal either. If you are pulled over because of probable cause, they can easily check your license or whatever documentation you have to see if you are legal. I don't see how that's a problem. They have to check your license and documentation anyway. If you don't have either then you're already in a shit load of trouble.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;21665216]I don't know why they would piss off immigrants. Legal immigrants aren't the issue. It has nothing to do with looking illegal either. If you are pulled over because of probable cause, they can easily check your license or whatever documentation you have to see if you are legal. I don't see how that's a problem.[/QUOTE]
Probable cause = bullshit like 3MPH over the speed limit.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21665231][QUOTE=T2L_Goose;21665216]I don't know why they would piss off immigrants. Legal immigrants aren't the issue. It has nothing to do with looking illegal either. If you are pulled over because of probable cause, they can easily check your license or whatever documentation you have to see if you are legal. I don't see how that's a problem.[/QUOTE]
Probable cause = bullshit like 3MPH over the speed limit.[/QUOTE]
Oh come on plenty of law enforcement in AZ are against that bill.
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21665231]Probable cause = bullshit like 3MPH over the speed limit.[/QUOTE]
Ok well it's speeding #1, and #2, that "probable cause" could be questioned and that cop could get in trouble for discrimination then.
Stop trying to act like cops and everyone in Arizona is racist.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;21665305]Ok well it's speeding #1, and #2, that "probable cause" could be questioned and that cop could get in trouble for discrimination then.
Stop trying to act like cops and everyone in Arizona is racist.[/QUOTE]
Haha, I'm sure you always stick to 65 on the highway.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;21665305]Ok well it's speeding #1, and #2, that "probable cause" could be questioned and that cop could get in trouble for discrimination then.
Stop trying to act like cops and everyone in Arizona is racist.[/QUOTE]No we're not. :frown:
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21665454]Haha, I'm sure you always stick to 65 on the highway.[/QUOTE]
Speeding is speeding.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;21665305]Ok well it's speeding #1, and #2, that "probable cause" could be questioned and that cop could get in trouble for discrimination then.
Stop trying to act like cops and everyone in Arizona is racist.[/QUOTE]
Your attitude towards this reminds me of the people that defended the patriot act. Don't do something wrong and there's nothing to worry about!
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