Anti-Trump demonstrators set fires, break windows in California
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[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51340505]Yeah, I would. The difference is these riots are fueled by current and impending injustice. Trumpanzee riots would be fueled by propaganda and lies of "rigged elections".[/QUOTE]
I hope you realize that the other side would most likely feel the same way had the roles reversed and that this attitude of political isolationism from the right is what caused this shit
[QUOTE=Whomobile;51340397]What they should be burning is Florida.[/QUOTE]
Florida does a pretty good job of that themselves.
This was going to happen either way.
what is this fucking accomplishing
[QUOTE=GunFox;51340495]We just elected a sociopath into power. Rioting is an understandable reaction.[/QUOTE]
ah yes crime is understandable when things don't go your way
Man, remember when people protested through the power if music? Imagine if all these people would start cool bands and pull of some sick riffs in protest against Trump. That would be great.
[QUOTE=Piciul;51340564]ah yes crime is understandable when things don't go your way[/QUOTE]
For once, I'm in the position to say that it's okay if you're one of Trump's targets
Do you think that minorities will get a better chance to fight for their rights now with all these republicans in power? How else do you bring about change, other than wait for 4 years and see yourself stripped of rights you barely got the first time
It's funny how people are all for peace and love until things don't go their way. It's like this election showed what people are really like, regardless of political affiliation.
[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;51340582]For once, I'm in the position to say that it's okay if you're one of Trump's targets
Do you think that minorities will get a better chance to fight for their rights now with all these republicans in power? How else do you bring about change, other than wait for 4 years and see yourself stripped of rights you barely got the first time[/QUOTE]
hold up just let me break into your car because i don't like the president
[QUOTE=Piciul;51340564]ah yes crime is understandable when things don't go your way[/QUOTE]
It is actually when you elect a man who has no qualifications to be the president of the United States, who has no understanding of foreign policy and will ruin our relations with our allies and probably break down NATO (so bye-bye for you guys if anything ever goes wrong with the Russians; this outcome was Putin's wet dream), who is a threat as much as his running mate is to the civil rights of tens of millions of Americans (Muslims and Middle Easterners, Hispanics and Latinos, the LGBT community, etc.), and who will in all likelihood permanently ruin our country in addition to furthering the political rift that already existed between the left and the right.
But no, let's stand around and pretend we're morally-superior to these people are because they are having a perfectly understandable and justified reaction to this terrible moment in American history. And let's downplay the significance of just how terrible it is while we're at it.
There's an astonishing number of fucking morons in this country who say, "This isn't right." Well what is right then? Protests are not going to get us anywhere, that much is evident. They didn't work against Wall Street, they didn't work against the Bush Administration (which will undoubtedly look better than Trump's ever will in the history books)... they're useless.
People [i]need[/i] to get radical now. They need to fight back, and they really need to start organizing and structuralizing themselves so they can fight back effectively. The last thing that's warranted is passivity and indifference; if we go that route, then they'll be able to do whatever the fuck they want to us and our country. And that's unacceptable.
What was that I heard about how right after the election a bunch of white supremacists were going to start showing their true colours?
I'm probably speaking too early but by the looks of things it's the anti trump crowd going around causing shit while the Trump crowd is continuing on with their lives
[QUOTE=GunFox;51340495]We just elected a sociopath into power. Rioting is an understandable reaction.[/QUOTE]
We didn't. That's the thing. The people elected Clinton. But the old rigged Electoral College voted for Trump against the wishes of the people.
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51340508]Trump is a narcissistic buffoon. The sociopath you are thinking of must be Hillary.[/QUOTE]
No, Trump actually has all the hallmarks of antisocial personality disorder. Look it up in the DSM V. He is a clinical sociopath.
Clinton has few, if any, of the features.
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[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;51340582]For once, I'm in the position to say that it's okay if you're one of Trump's targets
Do you think that minorities will get a better chance to fight for their rights now with all these republicans in power? How else do you bring about change, other than wait for 4 years and see yourself stripped of rights you barely got the first time[/QUOTE]
What, are you telling me that when you're a minority group you aren't listened to by default by those in power and must resort to protest, and often even riots to be heard?
huh
Also you're kind of a cunt if you're calling people immature crybabies. It's highly likely Trump and Pence will strip LGBT people of their rights, and he's pledged to create a database of muslims too hasn't he? would you call black people concerned about Mr. Mixed Messages (Goldwater) a bunch of crybabies if he had won lmao.
[QUOTE=Claxx;51340653]What was that I heard about how right after the election a bunch of white supremacists were going to start showing their true colours?
I'm probably speaking too early but by the looks of things it's the anti trump crowd going around causing shit while the Trump crowd is continuing on with their lives[/QUOTE]
Like you said, you're speaking too early. That, and you're completely ignoring the background of the men who were just elected (not to mention their actual statements). And the worst part is even if something happens to Trump, we're stuck with Pence then; he's a godsend to the religious right-wingers, and in many ways is arguably worse than Trump is as a result.
Again, you can be as willfully-ignorant about this as you want, but to pretend that this is something unimportant and that Trump winning isn't a big deal is retarded.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;51340660]We didn't. That's the thing. The people elected Clinton. But the old rigged Electoral College voted for Trump against the wishes of the people.[/QUOTE]
Even more reason to revolt. The people didn't get who they voted for. Change is urgently needed. Your country needs a reform.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51340688]Even more reason to revolt. The people didn't get who they voted for. Change is urgently needed. Your country needs a reform.[/QUOTE]
Nothing will change. This happened last time in 2000 with Gore V. Bush. Nothing happened to change the electoral college.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51340688]Even more reason to revolt. The people didn't get who they voted for. Change is urgently needed. Your country needs a reform.[/QUOTE]
I got who I voted for. :x
[QUOTE=Starpluck;51340693]Nothing will change. This happened last time in 2000 with Gore V. Bush. Nothing happened to change the electoral college.[/QUOTE]
Well, with that attitude it [I]definetely [/I]won't change. If at first you don't succeed: Try, try, try again.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;51340704]Well, with that attitude it [I]definetely [/I]won't change. If at first you don't succeed: Try, try, try again.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. The absolute last and worst thing we could possibly be right now is silent, apathetic, and passive. We have got to start planning for the future and need to begin organizing ourselves to fight back.
I'm torn between being apathetic to the point of disassociation and mildly hoping that everything just burns.
When will Americans realize that the United States is not a democracy but a republic? If you're not gonna make an effort to win the electoral college then deal with it
[QUOTE=Govna;51340715]Exactly. The absolute last and worst thing we could possibly be right now is silent, apathetic, and passive. We have got to start planning for the future and need to begin organizing ourselves to fight back.[/QUOTE]
Take a step back and imagine a Trump supporter saying this if Hillary won
[QUOTE=Perrine;51340738]Take a step back and imagine a Trump supporter saying this if Hillary won[/QUOTE]
You're not telling me anything I don't already know, so stop acting like relativism and empathy matter here. They don't.
I wasn't happy with either of the candidates, but I especially wasn't happy about Trump and his rhetoric regarding Muslims and Middle Easterners, Hispanics and Latinos, the LGBT community, basically ethnic, religious, etc. minorities in general. Mostly because my dad and his side of my family is made up entirely of immigrants from Iran, some of whom practice Shia Islam. What's going to happen to them? Who fucking knows? Odds are, given Trump's rhetoric and the behavior and rhetoric of his supporters, it won't be anything good. But whatever.
There's more to be lost here from Trump supporters than Hillary supporters, just as there was more to be lost from electing him than electing her. And the electoral college chose him, so here we are.
Or, again, we can continue to downplay the horrible significance of what's happened here and ignore the political rift that's opened up in this country which has caused a significant number of people to vote for a man and his running mate who will be disastrous for our country once they take office. Again, it's whatever. You're also an American; you have a lot more at stake here than the foreign FP'ers do.
[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;51340582]For once, I'm in the position to say that it's okay if you're one of Trump's targets
Do you think that minorities will get a better chance to fight for their rights now with all these republicans in power? How else do you bring about change, other than wait for 4 years and see yourself stripped of rights you barely got the first time[/QUOTE]
Not burning things is a good place to start. There are peaceful ways of getting a message across.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;51340773]Not burning things is a good place to start. There are peaceful ways of getting a message across.[/QUOTE]
But protesters get yelled at for doing those (e.g. BLM blocking a bridge. Kaepernick sitting down) prolly because the majority in society would rather unsteady peace than being forced to acknowledge injustice
It will be epic lulz if Trump somehow will turn out to be a great president.
[editline]10th November 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51340798]But protesters get yelled at for doing those (e.g. BLM blocking a bridge. Kaepernick sitting down) prolly because the majority in society would rather unsteady peace than being forced to acknowledge injustice[/QUOTE]
Yeah, just start a civil war why don't you? Great way to protest mate, if you disagree just pull out a gun and go on a killing spree!
[QUOTE=maniacykt;51340799]It will be epic lulz if Trump somehow will turn out to be a great president.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I'm sure the promised religious extremism, social regression, defunding of research, etc will be great for America. I'm really looking forward to losing my health insurance and having a fucked up career because of the impact this might have on my graduate studies.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;51340660]We didn't. That's the thing. The people elected Clinton. But the old rigged Electoral College voted for Trump against the wishes of the people.[/QUOTE]
Bet you wouldnt be saying that if the situation was reversed
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