You cannot compare these two things at all. I understand that the human brain is much more powerful that we think, but I think these calculations have been ripped out of someones ass because there's a dozen of these they're always different. Worlds total cpu power equal to one brain sounds just ridiculous.
And [url=http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2010/03/14/miditina-wireless-midi-over-wifi-demo/]here's[/url] an another comparison where they esimate average human brain's power to be about 100 million MIPS (Million computer Instructions Per Second ), while the supercomputers already have a few millions MIPS afaik. Though, MIPS doesn't correlate how the processor will perform on just any problem
"Overall, the retina seems to process about ten one-million-point images per second.
Because the 1,500 cubic centimeter human brain is about 100,000 times as large as the retina, by simple calculation, we can estimate the processing power of a average brain to be about 100 million MIPS (Million computer Instructions Per Second ). "
And here they just compared the volume of retina to the brain, which just sounds irrational.
When talking about FLOPS per second, estimates of human brains calculating power ranges from 20 million to 20 quadrillion. Again you really give a FLOPS rate for a brain, because it doesn't work the same way.
I'd imagine having every synapse in your head firing as fast as they can would have some pretty nasty side-effects.
Imagine if on the PS3 and XBOX, it had a mandatory pop up that told people they could contribute to the progress of mankind by donating their unit's power when it is not in use.
[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;28004769]Nope. But we do get to run the worst game in the world:
Real life.
Come on, even the 60-year vets don't know what are the entire mechanics of the game and they need guides. and what about all those filthy PKers? Player restricted items and actions? Only one life, and even then it's limited to how much other players have progressed, constant stat degeneration and it's a total grind to level them back up. No instant health regeneration, no fast travel, too many players for this world and too many people aim for the same thing. The mini-games are fun though.[/QUOTE]
Atleast the background story is very extensive and really detailed.
Getting a decent weapon is a bitch thought.
Actually our brain's computing power when it comes to arithmetic calculations are pretty bad, as we only started to do advanced calculations a couple of hundred years ago or something
STILL CAN'T RUN CRYSIS
herp
[QUOTE=Ratboy14;28001756]Well just think, this much power has come in what? ~20 years of computing? Imagine in another 20 years what it will be like.[/QUOTE]
Now a days we are doubling our computers power every couple of months so, I imagine we'd have a lot of power by then.
[QUOTE=helpiminabox;28002047]Basically you're just asking for 2^20. Which is what that is.[/QUOTE]
I assumed, but I haven't done exponentials in a while so I checked the other way :frown:
[QUOTE=Haxxer;28006719]Actually our brain's computing power when it comes to arithmetic calculations are pretty bad[/QUOTE]
Phew, I thought I was just shit at math. Good to know it's just because I'm a human!
A CPU and a brain works completly differently, comparing them is just dumb
CPU is simple logic and math
Brain is just very advanced logic
[QUOTE=FreakySoup;28008712]Phew, I thought I was just shit at math. Good to know it's just because I'm a human![/QUOTE]
If you compare our brains to computers, everyone's shit at arithmetics. But if you compare human to human...
[QUOTE=xeonmuffin;28008269]STILL CAN'T RUN CRYSIS
herp[/QUOTE]
look at what your brain can process compared to videogames
[QUOTE=Tobba;28008733]A CPU and a brain works completly differently, comparing them is just dumb
CPU is simple logic and math
Brain is just very advanced logic[/QUOTE]
I'm comparing the arithmetic potential of them both, not the way they work.
It's hard to compare computing power to brain power.
Brains use a web of complex neurons, which can be created, destroyed, unhooked, moved, ect.
Computers are more linear.
[QUOTE=xpod1;28008745]look at what your brain can process compared to videogames[/QUOTE]
Brain doesn't process the universe. It only translates what you see/hear/smell/feel/taste.
These two threads fit so well together:
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1048105-E.-Coli-Bacteria-into-Hard-Drives[/url]
[QUOTE=Haxxer;28008757]I'm comparing the arithmetic potential of them both, not the way they work.[/QUOTE]
3 billion calculations per second from a CPU vs the like 500000 calcs per sec (max) from the brain
Brain uses logic to do decisions, not math
Computers have almost always been undeniably faster than brains, but they are still miles behind.
They can perform meticulously programmed tasks almost perfectly, but that's only when a human tells them what to do every single step of the way, and guides them through even the simplest operations at first. Once the hardware and software is all built, however, they can outperform humans.
On the other hand, [i]anything[/i] new, will be literally impossible for a computer to do, without a human "teaching" it how to perform the new task.
Also, when we look at a computer mouse, we instantly recognize the exact boundaries of it, we have a guess of what the weight and feel of it is, we almost instantaneously go to the word "mouse" in our brain, we know exactly what the click sounds like, we know all of its functions, ect.
It takes some insanely hard work and smart teams to recreated even that in a computer, even though we do it with many objects millions of times a day.
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;28009026]Computers have almost always been undeniably faster than brains, but they are still miles behind.
They can perform meticulously programmed tasks almost perfectly, but that's only when a human tells them what to do every single step of the way, and guides them through even the simplest operations at first. Once the hardware and software is all built, however, they can outperform humans.
On the other hand, [i]anything[/i] new, will be literally impossible for a computer to do, without a human "teaching" it how to perform the new task.
Also, when we look at a computer mouse, we instantly recognize the exact boundaries of it, we have a guess of what the weight and feel of it is, we almost instantaneously go to the word "mouse" in our brain, we know exactly what the click sounds like, we know all of its functions, ect.
It takes some insanely hard work and smart teams to recreated even that in a computer, even though we do it with many objects millions of times a day.[/QUOTE]
They can outperform in areas where that's what they're specifically programmed or built to do. The human brain is dynamic and can perform every task a computer can without any optimizations or changes. A computer might be able to complete a specific task faster than the average human brain can, but we're still way more powerful from an overall view.
Gonna plug my brain into the cpu spot!
[QUOTE=Redcow17;28001583]Why don't we use DNA for storage somehow if it can store that much[/QUOTE]
a few scientists have gotten pretty far with e. coli but it's still not practical for use in any sort of consumer, enterprise, etc. applications.
I wonder what happens if I somehow manage to hook my brain up to my motherboard.
[QUOTE=DienDwemar;28004679]Not even a human brain can run Crysis on max graphics.[/QUOTE]
We can render scenes in our minds more complex than anything in a game in mere milliseconds, but the two processes are so different that it isn't even worth comparing them
For example, imagine a slanted plank with pegs on it and water flowing down. You can "render" accurate fluid physics in this scene but we're pulling information from memories while a computer rendering the same thing would have to do mathematical calculations.
AHEM! Sorry for the page stretch, I used it for a kind of "pause effect"
I also think the total CPU power of 1 brain, is quite amazing. If this is the truth, our brain might be worth 3-5 super-computers.
I don't know why people insist on comparing computers and brains, they're two totally different machines.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28017372]We can render scenes in our minds more complex than anything in a game in mere milliseconds, but the two processes are so different that it isn't even worth comparing them
For example, imagine a slanted plank with pegs on it and water flowing down. You can "render" accurate fluid physics in this scene but we're pulling information from memories while a computer rendering the same thing would have to do mathematical calculations.[/QUOTE]
The thing is however that our "Simulation" isn't mathematically accurate. It only looks right, it doesn't really follow the laws of physics as a computer would when attempting to render real time water. That's not to put down the capability of the human brain however, as you can't even tell a computer to "eyeball it".
[QUOTE=froztshock;28018523]The thing is however that our "Simulation" isn't mathematically accurate. It only looks right, it doesn't really follow the laws of physics as a computer would when attempting to render real time water. That's not to put down the capability of the human brain however, as you can't even tell a computer to "eyeball it".[/QUOTE]
The computer is sort of eyeballing it though. We can program accurate-looking fluid mechanics but it isn't doing the same thing that real fluid does, it's only imitating it. (At least until we start calculating physics on a per-molecule basis)
Hmm. Forge a man with such a DNA that knows nothing but evil and withstanding of pain, and you have yourself quite an animal.
Future seems pretty.. bright
[QUOTE=Ratboy14;28001756]Well just think, this much power has come in what? [b]~20 years of computing?[/b] Imagine in another 20 years what it will be like.[/QUOTE]
Computers were invented in 1991?
[QUOTE=Fycix;28001671]Really sad to think that all the computers in the world only have as much power as some degenerate fuck in your History class that has 60 piercings and is failing.[/QUOTE]
your mind is more powerful than you think.. I for one think it is amazing we have come this far so quickly.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.
