• Autopsy: Drug THC found in Trayvon Martin's system
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ITT: weed makes you a nice person no matter what and only capable of writing children's books. ITT: we argue about irrelevant circumstances instead of viewing the evidence presented to us
I wonce injecterd weed and gat a brain cancer. Than I offered oral sex to afford more. then i got aids from a weed serynge and od'd.
[QUOTE=TheChantzGuy;36003164]you don't even know that what the fuck[/QUOTE] I thought it was well-established he followed Trayvon against the advice of a police dispatcher, having no indication that Trayvon was doing anything other than being a normal human being who happened to be high and wanting skittles and iced tea, thus precipitating the conflict.
Holy shit, Trayvon had the... [img]http://www.cruiselawnews.com/uploads/image/ReeferMadness-4.jpg[/img]
Can we leave the drug debate be please? This case is controversial enough with the racist debate, and likelyness is it will not start up the addition of a marijuana debate too. More stuff to confuse the likelyness of the case actually getting a fair conclusion.
this is why you dont smoke pot, you get the reefer madness
[QUOTE=Rhenae;36003518]Can we leave the drug debate be please? This case is controversial enough with the racist debate, and likelyness is it will not start up the addition of a marijuana debate too. More stuff to confuse the likelyness of the case actually getting a fair conclusion.[/QUOTE] The call where Zimmerman was racist was apparantly faked, a few journalists after a massive story altered the call and added the slurs to cause a massive controversy. It worked, but fittingly enough they lost their jobs.
[QUOTE=cccritical;36000810]I didn't know it's totally okay to slam strangers' heads into concrete because they follow me, thanks for the heads up brb going to exercise my rights[/QUOTE] Yeah, it's excessive, but you wouldn't retaliate at all if a person is following you?
Judging from what I read in the media it was the embodyment of god fighting against pure evil. Who is who and which is which doesn't seem to matter.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36001164]Uh yeah, he was clearly looking for a fight. This ARMED guy was told NOT to approach him, he did[/QUOTE] I see this a lot. The 911 operator has NO authority to 'tell' anyone anything. Whatever might have gone on, Zimmerman had no obligation to do what the 911 person told him to do.
The plot thickens...
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;36001586]Nope. [URL="http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/NWProgramHandbook.pdf"]He would have broken the explicit "do not follow" rule of Sanford's actual neighborhood watch program, in addition to ignoring its criteria for a suspicious person.[/URL] He was a wannabe.[/QUOTE] Where is this explicit rule? Is this what you're referring to? [quote] You will extend their ability to provide security by reporting anything unusual or suspicious, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, so they can follow up on your leads. What you will not do is get physically involved with any activity you report or apprehension of any suspicious persons. This is the job of the law enforcement agency. [/quote] [quote]. Remember always that your responsibility is to report crime. Do not take any risks to prevent a crime or try to make an arrest. The responsibility for apprehending criminals belongs to the police department.[/quote] I don't see where it explicitly says "do not follow" anywhere in that handbook. Can you point out where it says this? It seems to be saying that you shouldn't physically try to stop a criminal, not that you can't follow and observe what a suspicious person is doing. [QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36001164]Uh yeah, he was clearly looking for a fight. This ARMED guy was told NOT to approach him, he did, he kept making comments about how they always get away, calling him a coon. The guy wanted to be a fucking superhero for the area. Not only that, on his fucking website, he has a quote pretty much fucking saying he's a hero. This guy has a superiority complex miles high. This reckless behaviour caused the death of a teenager who literally did nothing to appear like a criminal other than wear a hood and be black.[/QUOTE] Well I don't see any indication at all that he was looking for a fight if its true that he was just following a suspicious person around and was attacked from behind as he claims. The 911 operator gave him [b]advice[/b] not to follow him, he didn't break any laws by ignoring this advice. They also have not concluded that he said "coons" on the 911 call, they think he might have said "punks" or something else.
[QUOTE=Noble;36004038] The 911 operator gave him [b]advice[/b] not to follow him, he didn't break any laws by ignoring this advice. They also have not concluded that he said "coons" on the 911 call, they think he might have said "punks" or something else.[/QUOTE] Not only did they conclude he didn't say "coons", the real 911 call has him say that he wasn't even sure Trayvon was black, only that he was acting suspicious and may have been intoxicated.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35999707]Which is a clear contrast to alcohol that has always induced pacifism and peace in all who consume it. Thank god one is legalized and the other is banned.[/QUOTE] "perfect, a thread about a case where a child was shot and killed! I'll use it as a scapegoat to push out my views about how weed should be legalized! like i do in every remotely weed-related thread!"
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35999707]Which is a clear contrast to alcohol that has always induced pacifism and peace in all who consume it. Thank god one is legalized and the other is banned.[/QUOTE] Watch this guy turn around and bitch at anti-druggies that use equally retarded blanket statements.
A THC test can turn up positive days after smoking it, perhaps evan a week or two.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;36000106]Even if he was smoking a bit of weed, and even if he kicked Zimmerman around, it doesn't change the fact that Zimmerman was armed and went looking for a fight with a teenager who wasn't. None of this shit would have happened if Zimmerman had listened to the 911 operator and not aggressively pursued him. Bottom line, Zimmerman should have been minding his own fucking business instead of playing vigilante.[/QUOTE] It's not like he went up to Trayvon, punched him in the face and smashed his head into a wall.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36001164]This ARMED guy was told NOT to approach him,[/quote] No, he was not. The 911 operator asked Zimmerman, [i]"Are you following him?"[/i], to which he replied, [i]"Yep"[/i]. All the operator said to him then was, [i]"Okay, we don't [b]need[/b] you to do that"[/i]. He never said to Zimmerman in the entire course of the incident [i]"Don't follow him"[/i] or [i]"Don't do that"[/i]; all he said was that he didn't [i]need[/i] to follow him. There's a pretty significant difference to be had here. I have no idea why so many people are claiming he was "told not to approach Martin". Maybe they just don't know as much about the case as they've led themselves to believe? [QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36001164]he kept making comments about how they always get away,[/quote] Not quite sure how this corroborates your claim that he was "looking for a fight". Or how it's really relevant at all to the issue of whether or not George Zimmerman was the belligerent. [QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36001164]calling him a coon.[/quote] Long since debunked. Even the state attorney that's prosecuting Zimmerman, Angela B. Corey, has concurred that he said [i]"These fucking punks"[/i] and not [i]"These fucking coons"[/i]. [QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36001164]The guy wanted to be a fucking superhero for the area.[/quote] That's a bold and equally unsubstantiated claim to make. The fact of the matter is, as his neighborhood watch leader, it was his [i]job[/i] to actively observe, document, and report all suspicious activity within the area whenever possible to the authorities. [QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36001164]Not only that, on his fucking website, he has a quote pretty much fucking saying he's a hero. This guy has a superiority complex miles high.[/quote] Would you kindly point this quote out to the rest of us then so we all might have a chance to examine it for ourselves and draw our own conclusions? Thanks. [QUOTE=Governor Goblin;36001164]This reckless behaviour caused the death of a teenager [b]who literally did nothing to appear like a criminal other than wear a hood and be black[/b].[/QUOTE] And who lingered around in an area of the neighborhood which not three weeks earlier had suffered a burglary perpetrated by two black men (one of which Zimmerman himself had spotted peeking into houses just a few days prior and later helped to identify to the police). Doing nothing. In the middle of a rainstorm. For no apparent reason.
I wish the attempts to demonize both parties would stop.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;36004739]I wish the attempts to demonize both parties would stop.[/QUOTE] Martin was innocent and Zimmerman had a good reason to shoot him!
I'm sorta confused why everyone is focusing on Trevon and Zimmerman. The only people who clearly and obviously fucked up here are the police doing the investigation. People should be more focused on punishing them; if it wasn't for their gross incompetence this whole thing never would have been a controversy in the first place.
[QUOTE=ILY;36004757]Martin was innocent and Zimmerman had a good reason to shoot him![/QUOTE] You weren't there and you have no idea what happened. The lack of evidence and shaky testimonies from the few people that were around don't really swing the case one way or the other, and the media is responsible for demonizing Zimmerman, even though he was potentially in a life threatening situation. Zimmerman should have never followed Martin in the first place, but if Martin really tried reaching for his gun when it was allegedly exposed in the scuffle, then I can understand Zimmerman's position. But we don't know what really happened that day, so we need to stop demonizing Zimmerman and Martin. Neither of them deserve that right now. Innocent until proven guilty.
I actually didn't demonize either of them
[QUOTE=Camundongo;35999678]Marijuana is infamous for turning people into rage filled psychopaths with a taste for the blood of the innocent.[/QUOTE] It lowers your inhibitions. I can see this as not being ultimately helpful in stopping a kid with an attitude problem from attacking someone...
[QUOTE=ILY;36004878]I actually didn't demonize either of them[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, that just appeared sarcastic. Apologies if it wasn't.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;36004972]I'm sorry, that just appeared sarcastic. Apologies if it wasn't.[/QUOTE] Well it was One of them must be in the wrong, but we don't know which. So I half agree with you
[QUOTE=Noble;36004038]Where is this explicit rule? Is this what you're referring to? I don't see where it explicitly says "do not follow" anywhere in that handbook. Can you point out where it says this? It seems to be saying that you shouldn't physically try to stop a criminal, not that you can't follow and observe what a suspicious person is doing.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-03-23/news/fl-neighborhood-watch-groups-warned-20120322_1_neighborhood-watch-program-sanford-shooting-volunteer-programs"]The police say it says not to follow.[/URL] Your lackluster reading comprehension is irrelevant.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;36007396][URL="http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-03-23/news/fl-neighborhood-watch-groups-warned-20120322_1_neighborhood-watch-program-sanford-shooting-volunteer-programs"]The police say it says not to follow.[/URL] Your lackluster reading comprehension is irrelevant.[/QUOTE] You don't have to listen to operators. Think of them as advisors
[QUOTE=Ericson666;36007549]You don't have to listen to operators. Think of them as advisors[/QUOTE] It probably won't help him in court. "oh yeah the operator told me not to chase down that kid but I did it anyway and boy am I red in the face"
Oh no a teenager smokes marijuana. Call the fucking coast guard on this shit.
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