Cat saves boy's life from dog attack! - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44810272]Look at his arm, just before the dog grabs it, he flicks it and turns to the dog. Also wtf?, I'm not saying that the kid is at fault here, I'm just saying that the dog didn't come to the kid with the intention of grabbing his leg. I volunteered at an animal shelter, so I know how violent dogs react, it works by triggers.[/QUOTE] The moment the dog is at the boys side, it's already going for the boys leg. It was an unprovoked attack. Also how is that relevant, do you know every in and out of the dogs consciousness because you help out at an animal shelter?

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44810107]If you look closely, you can see that the dog was just curious at first, he was slowly walking towards the boy, then we he came close the kid made a sudden move, which triggered the dog. it's obviously not a normal behavior, but the dog didn't just come to the kid and started pulling him away.[/QUOTE] Do you even own a dog? If a dog is defending he bites and retreats, he doesn't hold on to the threat.

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[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44810272]Look at his arm, just before the dog grabs it, he flicks it and turns to the dog. Also wtf?, I'm not saying that the kid is at fault here, I'm just saying that the dog didn't come to the kid with the intention of grabbing his leg. I volunteered at an animal shelter, so I know how violent dogs react, it works by triggers.[/QUOTE] If you bothered to take a closer look at the video yourself, you would see that the wave is actually from the leg of the kid that the dog bites on and pulls to try and drag the kid away.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;44810311]You're seeing something in nothing.[/QUOTE] He flicks his arm back at the dog just before he grabs him, look more closely. Also I think this is a big misunderstanding. In my first post, I wasn't justifying the dog, when I said that he was surprised I was referring to the kid, not the dog.

[QUOTE=LordCrypto;44810328]oh hey guys if anyone needs any surgical procedures i interned at a hospital[/QUOTE] Bah thats nothing. I learnt dog psychology by watching the dog whisperer.

[QUOTE=OffTheRoad;44810336]If you bothered to take a closer look at the video yourself, you would see that the wave is actually from the leg of the kid that the dog bites on and pulls to try and drag the kid away.[/QUOTE] That's what I initially thought, but if you look closer you can see his arm moving back at the dog before he grabs his leg. [editline]14th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Raptors!;44810323]Do you even own a dog? If a dog is defending he bites and retreats, he doesn't hold on to the threat.[/QUOTE] Yeah I owned a German Shepherd for 14 years.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44810352]That's what I initially thought, but if you look closer you can see his arm moving back at the dog before he grabs his leg.[/QUOTE] The dog was already attacking him while is arm was moving.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44810352]Yeah I owned a German Shepherd for 14 years.[/QUOTE] So how do you explain the dog attacking instead of retreating?

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44810352]That's what I initially thought, but if you look closer you can see his arm moving back at the dog before he grabs his leg. [editline]14th May 2014[/editline] Yeah I owned a German Shepherd for 14 years.[/QUOTE] My eyes are almost touching the screen and i still dont see shit. Ill get some screenshots to show you.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44810352] Yeah I owned a German Shepherd for 14 years.[/QUOTE] Not every dogs the same.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44810352]That's what I initially thought, but if you look closer you can see his arm moving back at the dog before he grabs his leg. [editline]14th May 2014[/editline] Yeah I owned a German Shepherd for 14 years.[/QUOTE] I looked at it close on full screen view and with a quarter of speed, and he does not make a move towards the dog before it has already pulled him off the bike.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44810352]That's what I initially thought, but if you look closer you can see his arm moving back at the dog before he grabs his leg. [editline]14th May 2014[/editline] no he doesnt. The kid's whole body jerks as soon as the dog bit him, hell the Kid disnt even look at the dog before it bit him Yeah I owned a German Shepherd for 14 years.[/QUOTE] no he doesnt. The kid's whole body jerks as soon as the dog bit him, hell the Kid disnt even look at the dog before it bit him

Can you just accept that you're seeing nothing in the video to justify the actions of a prick dog?

[QUOTE=Raptors!;44810363]So how do you explain the dog attacking instead of retreating?[/QUOTE] Just as I said before, it's not normal dog behavior. What I'm arguing for is that the dog didn't just suddenly go to the kid (at first) with the intention of biting him.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44810395]Just as I said before, it's not normal dog behavior. What I'm arguing for is that the dog didn't just sudden go to the kid (at first) with the intention of biting him.[/QUOTE] but you can clearly see the dog attacked the kid unprovoked the kid didnt even notice the dog until it bit him

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44810395]Just as I said before, it's not normal dog behavior. What I'm arguing for is that the dog didn't just suddenly go to the kid (at first) with the intention of biting him.[/QUOTE] Yes he fucking did, watch the video, jesus christ. Not every dog acts the same. They're not robots.

I wouldn't necessarily call the dog evil like the article does, as it makes me wonder why it was wandering around without a collar and treated the child like it's prey. No excuse on what it did of course. That said, props to the cat for protecting it's family, a lot of people don't realize that housecats often treat their master's children as their own young.

Ok lets look at this. Dog shows up, kid's arm is still on his tricicle [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/sPbHTix.png[/IMG] Yep still there [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/htGIPYH.png[/IMG] Still there [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/FXoVQzn.png[/IMG] Kid's reflexes kick in, his body moves backwards a bit due to the fact that the dog literally jumps at him, yet his arm is STILL grabbing the tricicle [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/TptePo8.png[/IMG] Kid's arms flail BECAUSE HE GOT FUCKING BIT [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/C4D4LFI.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Native Hunter;44810404]but you can clearly see the dog attacked the kid unprovoked the kid didnt even notice the dog until it bit him[/QUOTE] The kid didn't notice the dog to the last second, where the dog came behind him, this surprised the kid making him flick his arm and look at the dog, this triggered the dog. This is all I'm saying. [editline]14th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=buu342;44810414]Ok lets look at this. Dog shows up, kid's arm is still on his tricicle [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/sPbHTix.png[/IMG] Yep still there [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/htGIPYH.png[/IMG] Still there [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/FXoVQzn.png[/IMG] Kid's reflexes kick in, his body moves backwards a bit due to the fact that the dog literally jumps at him, yet his arm is STILL grabbing the tricicle [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/TptePo8.png[/IMG] Kid's arms flail BECAUSE HE GOT FUCKING BIT [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/C4D4LFI.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] The intervals are too long to actually see anything here, I'll upload my own.

man Shreddinger is trolling hardcore right now

The "dog expert" should look at the dog not the kid. That dog was hunting for food.

[QUOTE=Jitterz;44810432]The "dog expert" should look at the dog not the kid. That dog was hunting for food.[/QUOTE] Okay, you're right guys, I'm sorry. Can we move on now?

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44810416]The kid didn't notice the dog to the last second, where the dog came behind him, this surprised the kid making him flick his arm and look at the dog, this triggered the dog. This is all I'm saying. [editline]14th May 2014[/editline] The intervals are too long to actually see anything here, I'll upload my own.[/QUOTE] The interval between the last 3 frames is ALMOST half a second. If by the second one he hasn't lifted his arm, it is very doubtful he would raise his arm high enough for the dog to even realize he moved it. But go ahead. [editline]jhgf[/editline] Finally, lets discuss the article now please.

It's sad to know that there are so many dogs that are treated like shit, abandoned or left untrained and left to their own devices like this. I'm a huge dog lover, but there's practically no provocation that would give a dog that wasn't in bed shape (lack of training, neglect, abuse) reason to cause the kid any harm at all. By that point in a dogs life, it's very hard to get them trained and re-homed. Finding people that would risk their personal well being to try and retrain a dog that will likely not do anything but continue to attack people/animals without any real provocation is unreasonable, so I'm not surprised to hear that the dog was put down. Even if it did attack a kid, I can't help but feel sad for the thing. Pretty likely that the cat attacked the dog as a result of the noise it likely made and it acting aggressive, but there's a chance it did it to protect that kid. It's not unheard of for cats to be defensive when it comes to things they consider "defenseless" like children. [editline]cats suck[/editline] What's with the argument regarding the kid moving his arms? Even if the kid moved his arms, or raised his hands, the dog still attacked him. Most dogs know the difference between adults and children, and treat them differently. I've been in contact with plenty of dogs that would be fine gnawing on my arm if I slapped their nose, but they are quite happy to sit around doing nothing as a toddler slaps them repeatedly in the face. I don't know the full story behind the dog, but if I had to take a guess I'd say that it was a stray that was looking for food. It either had very little training or not at all, or was really damn desperate. Even if it was starving, it has shown that it's willing to hurt a kid for food or with very little to no provocation on the kids end. I'm one of the first to defend dogs and passively hate cats, but it's pretty obvious that the dog is unlikely to be welcomed in to anybodies home or successfully trained.

Glad that dog was put down before it hurt someone else. It very clearly approached the child with malicious intent, it wasn't the kid's fault at all (and you're silly if you think otherwise.)

[QUOTE=joshuadim;44810018]Holy fuck that bite wound. What caused the dog to attack in the first place?[/QUOTE] Probably the tricycle.

That dog is such a pussy. He just runs back right after the cat bashes into it.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44810352]That's what I initially thought, but if you look closer you can see his arm moving back at the dog before he grabs his leg. [editline]14th May 2014[/editline] Yeah I owned a German Shepherd for 14 years.[/QUOTE] When a dog is provoked to attack, there is generally a breakdown of observable nuances in behavior that can indicate why it attacked. Typically, a dog will be apprehensive, with haunches raised, ears back, and with slight movements of the tail. In this case, the dog was 'alert' with its ears perked up, tail up and rigid, haunches down, and actively seeking out the boy. There is nothing that indicates that the dog was provoked; and even if it was 'provoked' by the boy moving his arm towards the dog, then it still clearly has issues with aggression.

[QUOTE=-xxsetshotxx-;44810555]When a dog is provoked to attack, there is generally a breakdown of observable nuances in behavior that can indicate why it attacked. Typically, a dog will be apprehensive, with haunches raised, ears back, and with slight movements of the tail. In this case, the dog was 'alert' with its ears perked up, tail up and rigid, haunches down, and actively seeking out the boy. There is nothing that indicates that the dog was provoked; and even if it was 'provoked' by the boy moving his arm towards the dog, then it still clearly has issues with aggression.[/QUOTE] Never said that the dog didn't have aggression problems, also that behavior is very identical to when a dog is curious (alert, ears perked up, tail up, etc) Now move on with the article, ty.