• IT'S A PRANK: Sweden to scrap planned 2015 election
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I thought Lövfen might do okay at first but it's gradually becoming apparent that he's just a huge fucking liar. And with practically no opposition, voting is basically pointless in the next election since this agreement stretches over two mandates. Fuck this shit. [I]Inte min statsminister.[/I]
Swedish politics. What a clusterfuck. In 4 years I'll be able to vote for the first time, but I have no idea if I'm gonna do it. Seems like you get actively harassed, threatened with death and shat on no matter what you vote for these days, and the politicians don't seem to be able to keep their promises very well. It's sad that SD are making progress, but I guess it was inevitable when all other parties outright shunned them even though they were democratically elected.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;46806290]I thought Lövfen might do okay at first but it's gradually becoming apparent that he's just a huge fucking liar. And with practically no opposition, voting is basically pointless in the next election since this agreement stretches over two mandates. Fuck this shit. [I]Inte min statsminister.[/I][/QUOTE] Welcome to Sweden, your Western supported dictatorship.
What really angers me is how downright undemocratic this is. You voted for any of the Alliance parties? Too fucking bad, have socialist politics instead. [B]THAT WAS NOT WHAT I VOTED FOR[/B]
I heard on P3 that SD will get little to no power because of this move that the big partys has done, sure they will need to cooperate on things they don't want but it's better than SD having power, aye?
Having a completly one sided political climate is much worse than having a party that wants to cut down immigration a bit.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46806709]Having a completly one sided political climate is much worse than having a party that wants to cut down immigration a bit.[/QUOTE] Not in Sweden, the land of the sandbox politics and crybabies.
[QUOTE=The fox;46806780]Not in Sweden, the land of the sandbox politics and [B]crybabies[/B].[/QUOTE] at least you're self aware :) [editline]28th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=jiggu;46806584]What really angers me is how downright undemocratic this is. You voted for any of the Alliance parties? Too fucking bad, have socialist politics instead. [B]THAT WAS NOT WHAT I VOTED FOR[/B][/QUOTE] I would've been with you if for example the moderates won the election, but that's not the case, most people voted for the social democrats
I wonder how a Nordic warlord would react if you unfroze them after a thousand years and showed them modern Sweden.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;46807383]I wonder how a Nordic warlord would react if you unfroze them after a thousand years and showed them modern Sweden.[/QUOTE] Probably with dismay because they'd all have become Christian and would be speaking a foreign language. Back then, Nordic warlords were serial murderers and rapists who kept slaves and murdered children. Of course they would find the activities of modern Swedes weird.
[QUOTE=Deng;46807394]Probably with dismay because they'd all have become Christian and would be speaking a foreign language. Back then, Nordic warlords were serial murderers and rapists who kept slaves and murdered children. Of course they would find the activities of modern Swedes weird.[/QUOTE] I miss the good old times.
so essentially Lofven has been able to form a unity government under this "december agreement" banner, consisting of both centre-left and centre-right parties, who've agreed to vote for socialist or Alliance (should they win the next election in 2018) budgetary policies to basically keep the far left & far right out of the equation yes? It's quite clear the SD may get a rise out of this
Wow you guys are following our steps. No matter what party you vote on its shit. And if SD won, the country would either fail because SD is a one question party or they would use the Nazis policy as that's where their roots are from.
See this kind of shit is what made people vote for the racists in the first place. During the elections the politicians were going for the indecisive voters, and failed to make their ideology come through in the process. People felt that this didn't really represent them, and as such, many political parties, mainly the Moderates, lost a fuck ton of voters to SD. The solution to this? Make the people feel even more unrepresented! How fucking shortsighted is this? [QUOTE=proch;46805825]What, is it somehow offensive or racist to elect?[/QUOTE] is this a jab at supposed political correctness? protip, don't bring this up in a sweden thread, it's the racist apologists favourite buzzword :v:
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;46806814] I would've been with you if for example the moderates won the election, but that's not the case, most people voted for the social democrats[/QUOTE] It's not S vs M though. With a minority government even less people gets what they want. The whole thing undermines democracy as it's not 51%+ of the voters that gets what they want.
[QUOTE=Carlton Dance;46808672]Wow you guys are following our steps. No matter what party you vote on its shit. And if SD won, the country would either fail because SD is a one question party or they would use the Nazis policy as that's where their roots are from.[/QUOTE] Wanting to lower immigration and take care of the people who already live here is not "nazi policy". It is however the only slightly relevant political point SD has going for it and I don't want them to win for the simple reason that outside of immigration they have literally no clue what they're talking about. [editline]28th December 2014[/editline] And also the fact that despite their agenda being shit, their members are even shittier. So that's another reason.
[QUOTE=The fox;46804300]If the country hasn't been completely ran into the ground by then. It's a very high possibility that the country, with this decision, will rot out and simply collapse on itself.[/QUOTE] You really can't comprehend Swedish politics, can you? Time to get back to reality. I guess it really is true what they say about people who vote for SD...
Seems like what they say about the people who vote for V is true as well. :v: People all over the damn country really need to stop with this shit. Just because someone votes for one party or another doesnt mean one is less intelligent. The sooner people accept that others have different opinions the better. Edit: Before people start calling me a communist/fascist/racist/whathaveyou, Im politically neutral because I dont agree with any of the current parties.
It's like they want SD to become the biggest party
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;46809192]Wanting to lower immigration and take care of the people who already live here is not "nazi policy". It is however the only slightly relevant political point SD has going for it and I don't want them to win for the simple reason that outside of immigration they have literally no clue what they're talking about. [editline]28th December 2014[/editline] And also the fact that despite their agenda being shit, their members are even shittier. So that's another reason.[/QUOTE]I think you misunderstood what I meant. I meant that SD has only one question in their mind. Now if they won they'll have to do much more than just handle immigration and because they are just about immigration they'll probably imitate another party which is probably going to be Nazis policy as their roots are from their. Ps: I never said that lowering immigration is a nazi policy.
[QUOTE=The fox;46805324]Move to Sweden, Socialists and Moderates are just a sludge where there are no particular differences between the two, as they have clearly shown now. I suppose it isn't without reason people refer to Sweden as the "New DDR".[/QUOTE] You're a joke [editline]28th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Flubbman;46806418]Swedish politics. What a clusterfuck. In 4 years I'll be able to vote for the first time, but I have no idea if I'm gonna do it. Seems like you get actively harassed, threatened with death and shat on no matter what you vote for these days, and the politicians don't seem to be able to keep their promises very well. [/QUOTE] Yes, being an active participant in democracy has a certain seriousity attached to it, and it's for a good reason. Don't be deterred by debate though, it's not quite as bad as you're suggesting - but yes, your choices can be questioned.
[QUOTE=Carlton Dance;46809501]I think you misunderstood what I meant. I meant that SD has only one question in their mind. Now if they won they'll have to do much more than just handle immigration and because they are just about immigration they'll probably imitate another party which is probably going to be Nazis policy as their roots are from their. Ps: I never said that lowering immigration is a nazi policy.[/QUOTE] I think you're mistaking SD for SvP. SD does not hold nazi policies. SvP does.
[QUOTE=MoonlessNight;46809493]It's like they want SD to become the biggest party[/QUOTE] Biggest plot twist in Swedish history.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;46809609]I think you're mistaking SD for SvP. SD does not hold nazi policies. SvP does.[/QUOTE] Björn Söder recently said that jews and samer aren't swedes (which is retarded fucking logic but let's disregard that). Alienation of peoples you consider less pure is in perfect alignment with nazi policy.
Guys you should actually read the political manifesto of SD before saying "OMG NAZIS" They are positive to nuclear energy, wanting to lower gas taxes, increase benefits for retirees, improve schools and strengthen our military who has seen cut after cut after cut in the years. Their only really disagreeable policies are about abortion which they want to regulate a bit more.
If you really want to go short, SD is pretty much the equivalent of the american Republic party.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;46809623]Björn Söder recently said that jews and samer aren't swedes (which is retarded fucking logic but let's disregard that). Alienation of peoples you consider less pure is in perfect alignment with nazi policy.[/QUOTE] I do not agree one word with what he said. But his opinions arent shared with the entire political party as a whole. Do you really think 13% of the voting population are nazis?
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46809634]Guys you should actually read the political manifesto of SD before saying "OMG NAZIS" They are positive to nuclear energy, wanting to lower gas taxes, increase benefits for retirees, improve schools and strengthen our military who has seen cut after cut after cut in the years. Their only really disagreeable policies are about abortion which they want to regulate a bit more.[/QUOTE] That, and last time I checked they had some very dodgy policies on gender equality and LGBT rights. Which makes 3 reasons I never want them to have any kind of influence on these topics.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;46809683]That, and last time I checked they had some very dodgy policies on gender equality and LGBT rights. Which makes 3 reasons I never want them to have any kind of influence on these topics.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Ingen människa väljer sin sexuella läggning. Trakasserier och diskriminering mot människor p.g.a. deras sexuella läggning är oacceptabelt och skall rättsligt beivras. Vidare anser Sverigedemokraterna att människors sexuella preferenser primärt är en privat fråga och ingenting partiet fäster någon vikt vid.[/QUOTE] dodgy google translate version: [QUOTE]No man chooses his sexual orientation . Harassment and discrimination against people on the grounds their sexual orientation is unacceptable and must be legally prosecuted. Furthermore, the Sweden Democrats that people's sexual preferences is primarily a private matter and nothing party attaches no importance.[/QUOTE] They seem mostly to have a neutral view on it.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46809706]dodgy google translate version: They seem mostly to have a neutral view on it.[/QUOTE] "Neutral" [url]http://sverigedemokraterna.se/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/principprogrammet2014_webb.pdf[/url] [quote][...] Detta är orsaken till att [B]vi motsätter oss statligt sanktionerad adoption för såväl ensamstående, som samkönade par och polyamorösa grupper.[/B] [...][/quote] Translated: [quote][...] This is the reason we oppose state-sanctioned adoption for singes, as well as homosexual and polyamorous couples and groups.[/B] [...][/quote]
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