IT'S A PRANK: Sweden to scrap planned 2015 election - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;46809715]"Neutral" [url]http://sverigedemokraterna.se/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/principprogrammet2014_webb.pdf[/url][/QUOTE] Well, that's bad. I cant say I agree with that at all.

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46809722]Well, that's bad. I cant say I agree with that at all.[/QUOTE] What's really confusing is on the very same page they say how every sexual minority should have equal rights. It's like they can't make up their minds on their own promises.

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;46809609]I think you're mistaking SD for SvP. SD does not hold nazi policies. SvP does.[/QUOTE]They have some roots from it and some of their politicians have been involved with nazi groups.

[QUOTE=demoguy08;46809623]Björn Söder recently said that jews and samer aren't swedes (which is retarded fucking logic but let's disregard that). Alienation of peoples you consider less pure is in perfect alignment with nazi policy.[/QUOTE] FYI the Sami people don't consider themselves Swedish either. I mean that kindof the point of being a nationally recognized minority, see link: [url]http://www.svt.se/nyheter/sverige/mattias-ahren-samer-ar-inte-svenskar[/url] The same kindof goes for the Jewish minority, as it is officially recognized. Is it somehow bad to not be Swedish? What Söder stated was that Jews are part of the Jewish minority and that's that. It's not like he wants to get rid of the Jewish minority or anything. It doesn't even make any sense that this should be interpreted as negative or hostile considering Söder is a strong supporter of Israel.

[QUOTE=Carlton Dance;46809799]They have some roots from it and some of their politicians have been involved with nazi groups.[/QUOTE] And the Social Democrats and the Left Party have roots in communism which isn't exactly spotless either, your point?

[QUOTE=shutter_eye5;46808435]so essentially Lofven has been able to form a unity government under this "december agreement" banner, consisting of both centre-left and centre-right parties, who've agreed to vote for socialist or Alliance (should they win the next election in 2018) budgetary policies to basically keep the far left & far right out of the equation yes? It's quite clear the SD may get a rise out of this[/QUOTE] Well not quite, we had a proper unity government during WWII consisting of all parties except the Communists. The current government will remain as Social Democrats and the Green Party. What has happened is that the Government and the Liberal-Conservative Alliance parties has agreed that until 2022 whichever block gets the most votes will be allowed to form a government and the opposition won't vote against their budget. This is done since the Sweden Democrats are practically a third block that can give any of the other blocks a majority by voting with them, a kingmaker role. That's why the government budget was voted down early December, the Alliance parties + SD got more votes for the Alliance budget than the government did for it's own budget.

[QUOTE=Folstream;46809824]Well not quite, we had a proper unity government during WWII consisting of all parties except the Communists. The current government will remain as Social Democrats and the Green Party. What has happened is that the Government and the Liberal-Conservative Alliance parties has agreed that until 2022 whichever block gets the most votes will be allowed to form a government and the opposition won't vote against their budget. This is done since the Sweden Democrats are practically a third block that can give any of the other blocks a majority by voting with them, a kingmaker role. That's why the government budget was voted down early December, the Alliance parties + SD got more votes for the Alliance budget than the government did for it's own budget.[/QUOTE] so in essence it's like the opposition saying "we'll accept your budget, but you've got to prove your policies work and also keep the vänsterpartiert and sverigesdemokraterna from blocking the budget" right?

[QUOTE=shutter_eye5;46809851]so in essence it's like the opposition saying "we'll accept your budget, but you've got to prove your policies work and also keep the vänsterpartiert and sverigesdemokraterna from blocking the budget" right?[/QUOTE] As far as I can tell the only things that there will be cooperation on is the annual Budget votes and three subjects: the Defence, Energy and Pension policies. They want broad majorities on these subjects. There remain a lot of individual issues where the the Alliance + SD will force the government to implement their policies- For example Alliance + SD wants 10 year obligatory school compared to the current 9 year, grading starting at 4th grade instead of the current 6th grade. They will probably also stop any plans on decommissioning Bromma airport that the government wants to do. Vänsterpartiet is not part of this December agreement and neither is Sverigedemokraterna. Vänsterpartiet however were a part of the negotiations on the government budget and got some of their policies accepted into it such as a stop to private profit in the welfare sector. Something that get's really interesting here is that the Alliance parties are larger than Social Democrats + Green Party, but with Vänsterpartiet that's not in government the green-socialist block is larger than the Alliance. This will most likely give Vänsterpartiet a lot of extra influence because if the government doesn't convince them to vote on the government budget then that means that the Alliance suddenly is the biggest block.

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;46809811]And the Social Democrats and the Left Party have roots in communism which isn't exactly spotless either, your point?[/QUOTE]If you read my other posts in this thread then you'd know. And this post is useless it's pretty obvious that left party has some roots in communism.

[QUOTE=Folstream;46809899]As far as I can tell the only things that there will be cooperation on is the annual Budget votes and three subjects: the Defence, Energy and Pension policies. They want broad majorities on these subjects. There remain a lot of individual issues where the the Alliance + SD will force the government to implement their policies- For example Alliance + SD wants 10 year obligatory school compared to the current 9 year, grading starting at 4th grade instead of the current 6th grade. They will probably also stop any plans on decommissioning Bromma airport that the government wants to do. Vänsterpartiet is not part of this December agreement and neither is Sverigedemokraterna. Vänsterpartiet however were a part of the negotiations on the government budget and got some of their policies accepted into it such as a stop to private profit in the welfare sector. Something that get's really interesting here is that the Alliance parties are larger than Social Democrats + Green Party, but with Vänsterpartiet that's not in government the green-socialist block is larger than the Alliance. This will most likely give Vänsterpartiet a lot of extra influence because if the government doesn't convince them to vote on the government budget then that means that the Alliance suddenly is the biggest block.[/QUOTE] In that case, I can see how the social democrats and the green party managed to agree with the Alliance for once. As you pointed out with defence, energy & pension policy on the agenda, it's not surprising. Both the Green Party and the Social Democrats had a similar point of view as well, but the Greens would prefer a downsizing of the nuclear side of power generation whereas the Åkesson's SD wants more nuclear plants (albeit newer & more efficient designs). I think the basic point here is to just allow each parliament pass the yearly budget without having to get the SD's approval, in a nutshell bypassing them. It's probably to avoid parliamentary deadlock and an american-styled government shut down where public sector workers aren't able to work because funding hasn't been approved yet. Do you think there's a possibility that Löfven may lobby the Alliance in the future to agree to his rail infrastructure overhaul program? I'd say in particular areas such as the national capital and the southern regions require some repair or complete upgrading of railways to compensate for larger amounts of the general public preferring to use it rather than driving cars. It could do something to strengthen ties between the to centre bloc's and also bolster support for each individual party except for the left & SD

[QUOTE=shutter_eye5;46810195]In that case, I can see how the social democrats and the green party managed to agree with the Alliance for once. As you pointed out with defence, energy & pension policy on the agenda, it's not surprising. Both the Green Party and the Social Democrats had a similar point of view as well, but the Greens would prefer a downsizing of the nuclear side of power generation whereas the Åkesson's SD wants more nuclear plants (albeit newer & more efficient designs). I think the basic point here is to just allow each parliament pass the yearly budget without having to get the SD's approval, in a nutshell bypassing them. It's probably to avoid parliamentary deadlock and an american-styled government shut down where public sector workers aren't able to work because funding hasn't been approved yet. Do you think there's a possibility that Löfven may lobby the Alliance in the future to agree to his rail infrastructure overhaul program? I'd say in particular areas such as the national capital and the southern regions require some repair or complete upgrading of railways to compensate for larger amounts of the general public preferring to use it rather than driving cars. It could do something to strengthen ties between the to centre bloc's and also bolster support for each individual party except for the left & SD[/QUOTE] To clarify, an american-styled government shutdown is impossible because of how Swedish politics works. Stefan Löfven actually had the ability to delay the budget vote by sending his proposal back to the Committee on Finance for further adjustments (potentially to make it more Alliance-friendly). He didn't do it because at the time he couldn't see a way that would make a difference except needlessly prolong the entire procedure. If a budget were to be delayed last years budget would just keep on going for the new year until a new budget is accepted. So no government shutdowns. I think getting rid of nuclear power won't happen short term. Stefan Löfven himself is actually pro nuclear although he has to drive his party views of long term decommissioning. Most of the Alliance, Liberal People's party in particular + SD like you said are also pro nuclear power. Regarding rail infrastructure I really don't know. I'm not very well educated at all since I very rarely travel by train. The general impression I have of our railways would be that they are in bad shape and unreliable due to lack of proper funding. You often hear about delays and various errors happening.

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;46809737]What's really confusing is on the very same page they say how every sexual minority should have equal rights. It's like they can't make up their minds on their own promises.[/QUOTE] Although I do disagree with their policy on this particular topic, it isn't a human right to be able to adopt a child so they aren't actually contradicting themselves.

[QUOTE=maeZtro;46815674]Although I do disagree with their policy on this particular topic, it isn't a human right to be able to adopt a child so they aren't actually contradicting themselves.[/QUOTE] That doesn't fucking matter. They're segregating and disallowing a whole group of people from doing the same thing as others on the basis of sexuality.