• Two years after the Gaza War, Gaza remains imprisoned
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When people compare Israel to the Nazis, they don't mean [I]everything[/I] literally. But instead, the "preemptive" attacks, mindless land grabbing from it's neighbors, institutionalized racism against an ethnicity, indiscriminate bombings etc.
[QUOTE=RayDark;27122866]Actually, america's goal is the oil, not the land. And as such, to gain the land you either kill the populace or you force them to convert.[/QUOTE] oh okay you're one of those people. how come america pulled out of iraq? why doesnt america target all those really small but super rich oil countries?
[QUOTE=Starpluck;27122878]You know the story behind that right? It was taken by a hidden BBC journalist from his apartment window. Israeli agents arrested that man, then fired shots in the air to disperse the crowd, once they left they executed him on the spot[/QUOTE] Wow. And I can fathom some reasons for that, too, he is part of the media, and as such, him seeing/reporting that would be bad for them. [editline]1st January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Lachz0r;27122901]oh okay you're one of those people. how come america pulled out of iraq? why doesnt america target all those really small but super rich oil countries?[/QUOTE] Because they are really small but super rich.
[QUOTE=David29;27122893]Source?[/QUOTE] I'm looking for it, but I'll swear on it that it's real
[QUOTE=Starpluck;27122898]When people compare Israel to the Nazis, they don't mean [I]everything[/I] literally. But instead, the "preemptive" attacks, mindless land grabbing from it's neighbors, institutionalized racism against an ethnicity, indiscriminate bombings etc.[/QUOTE] it's still a retarded comparison that people only use to be like WOW THOSE EVIL JEWS HOW IRONIC THEY'RE JUST AS BAD AS NAZIS!!!!!
[QUOTE=RayDark;27122905]Wow. And I can fathom some reasons for that, too, he is part of the media, and as such, him seeing/reporting that would be bad for them.[/QUOTE] No no no, I meant the [B]event[/B] in that picture was captured by a BBC journalist.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;27122901]oh okay you're one of those people. how come america pulled out of iraq? why doesnt america target all those really small but super rich oil countries?[/QUOTE] No one important lives in palestine/afghan/iraq. At least no one important enough to make a stand. That is why it is up to the people, and a so-to-speak whistleblower, like wikileaks, to uncover and expose the truth. Unfortunately, assange is a bastard and doesn't feel like leaking masses of Israeli documents.
[QUOTE=RayDark;27122905]Wow. And I can fathom some reasons for that, too, he is part of the media, and as such, him seeing/reporting that would be bad for them. [editline]1st January 2011[/editline] Because they are really small but super rich.[/QUOTE] exactly they're really small but have shitloads of oil. wouldnt that make them the perfect target?
[QUOTE=Starpluck;27122931]No no no, I meant the [B]event[/B] in that picture was captured by a BBC journalist.[/QUOTE] And was the reporter arrested? Or are you talking about the dead guy? Because if the reporter was, then what I said holds ground, but if not, I misread
[QUOTE=RayDark;27122938]No one important lives in palestine/afghan/iraq. At least no one important enough to make a stand. That is why it is up to the people, and a so-to-speak whistleblower, like wikileaks, to uncover and expose the truth. Unfortunately, assange is a bastard and doesn't feel like leaking masses of Israeli documents.[/QUOTE] what the hell are you talking about
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;27122923]it's still a retarded comparison that people only use to be like WOW THOSE EVIL JEWS HOW IRONIC THEY'RE JUST AS BAD AS NAZIS!!!!![/QUOTE] It is not a retarded comparison. That is why a lot of people say the jews were victimized after WW2.
[QUOTE=Random94;27122652]This is coming from someone who looks like an SS commander. Also are these the terrorists and Insurgents your talking about.[/QUOTE] Are you not going to bother mediatagging that? I was eating my fucking cereal, thanks.
[QUOTE=RayDark;27122960]It is not a retarded comparison. That is why a lot of people say the jews were victimized after WW2.[/QUOTE] it IS a retarded comparison. SURE israel has done some shit things but they have done nothing on the level of the nazi regime.
[QUOTE=RayDark;27122737]You have been brainwashed. The following is not safe for work. [media]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Nf5FfHNth64/TRkhrpXj0MI/AAAAAAAALcc/JxFphLPMwIA/s1600/Gaza_Operation_Cast_Lead_001%255B1%255D.jpg[/media] [media]http://schema-root.org/region/middle_east/palestine/people/casualties/children/burnt_palestinian_child.jpg[/media][/QUOTE] Also can't forget this one [media]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gErIwxb8eV8/SXEk-_3OOTI/AAAAAAAAAXY/8OKcEUh76Ls/s400/How+Israel+wins+victory+over+Hamas.jpg[/media] [editline]1st January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=leach139;27122972]Are you not going to bother mediatagging that? I was eating my fucking cereal, thanks.[/QUOTE] Sorry about that
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;27122986]it IS a retarded comparison. SURE israel has done some shit things but they have done nothing on the level of the nazi regime.[/QUOTE] Some things compare, but constantly defending them will get you no where, some of their acts are on par with the Third Reich.
[QUOTE=RayDark;27123056]Some things compare, but constantly defending them will get you no where, some of their acts are on par with the Third Reich.[/QUOTE] i'm not defending them i'm just saying that the 3rd reich comparison is fucking stupid. ok you guys got some pictures of some dead people ok show me the pictures of the forced labour camps, show me the stacked up bodies of gassed palestinians. WHICH OF THEIR ACTS ARE ON PAR WITH THE THIRD REICH
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;27123097]i'm not defending them i'm just saying that the 3rd reich comparison is fucking stupid. ok you guys got some pictures of some dead people ok show me the pictures of the forced labour camps, show me the stacked up bodies of gassed palestinians. WHICH OF THEIR ACTS ARE ON PAR WITH THE THIRD REICH[/QUOTE] We just told you, maybe if you carefullly read everything, then we can take your criticism, also we are saying israel is very simmilar to nazi Germany, not exactly simillar to nazi Germany
[QUOTE=Random94;27123535]We just told you, maybe if you carefullly read everything, then we can take your criticism[/QUOTE] no, you just showed me random pictures of dead people. you haven't told me anything. show me some cold hard evidence of acts committed by israel that are on par and comparable to acts committed by the nazi regime.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;27123597]no, you just showed me random pictures of dead people. you haven't told me anything. show me some cold hard evidence of acts committed by israel that are on par and comparable to acts committed by the nazi regime.[/QUOTE] Well, for example Israel is destroying Palestinian homes to build israeli ones on, as a result of these settlements, they will eventualty pressure the Palestinians to move somehere else until they finally have no choice but to cramp into de facto ghettos, therefore containing them, the nazis did the same thing with jews for example, they forced them to live in ghettos, also Gaza is sort of like one, with walls and fences to make sure they rarely get out, and if they did, restrict their movement.
[QUOTE=Random94;27123851]Well, for example Israel is destroying Palestinian homes to build israeli ones on, as a result of these settlements, they will eventualty pressure the Palestinians to move somehere else until they finally have no choice but to cramp into de facto ghettos, therefore containing them, the nazis did the same thing with jews for example, they forced them to live in ghettos, also Gaza is sort of like one, with walls and fences to make sure they rarely get out, and if they did, restrict their movement.[/QUOTE] ok so first you make a statement without a source and the rest of your post is just conjecture? nope nazi comparisons are still retarded.
[QUOTE=RayDark;27122737]You have been brainwashed. The following is not safe for work. [media]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Nf5FfHNth64/TRkhrpXj0MI/AAAAAAAALcc/JxFphLPMwIA/s1600/Gaza_Operation_Cast_Lead_001%255B1%255D.jpg[/media] [media]http://schema-root.org/region/middle_east/palestine/people/casualties/children/burnt_palestinian_child.jpg[/media][/QUOTE] [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fQD_UfiH5iA/SnNqtvmnEkI/AAAAAAAABfU/O5kcd8KfMjg/s400/dead+nazi.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.cerebral-coffins.com/lilliput/1003/Dead%20Nazi%20officer%20in%20snow,%20Mabompre,%20Belgium,%201944.jpg[/img] Oh look those are a bunch of dead Nazis, surely this means that they're the goods ones, because look, there are pictures of them dead, and we all know if you see someone dead that must mean he was the good guy.
He was not implying that the people were good guys.
[QUOTE=Domokun;27125887]He was not implying that the people were good guys.[/QUOTE] Well that's true, but the argument still stands for the other way around: "Oh look those are a bunch of dead Nazis killed by the Allies in WW2, surely this means that the allies are the bad guys, because look, there are pictures of dead Nazis, and we all know if you see someone dead then that must mean that the ones who killed them are bad and evil".
[QUOTE=Random94;27122652]This is coming from someone who looks like an SS commander. Also are these the terrorists and Insurgents your talking about. [media]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Nf5FfHNth64/TRkhrpXj0MI/AAAAAAAALcc/JxFphLPMwIA/s1600/Gaza_Operation_Cast_Lead_001%255B1%255D.jpg[/media][/QUOTE] Perhaps it was a bad idea to have bring your children to the front line day. I mean Israel totally wants to kill children, pet, eskimos and babies.
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;27126207]Perhaps it was a bad idea to have bring your children to the front line day.[/QUOTE] That's not even a funny joke. "Oh hurr they shouldn't of been fighting then!" But of course death/dying just for being an innocent civillian is a laughing matter to to you [editline]1st January 2011[/editline] BurnEmDown comparing dead Palestinian children to dead Nazis? That's a new one
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;27126105]Well that's true, but the argument still stands for the other way around: "Oh look those are a bunch of dead Nazis killed by the Allies in WW2, surely this means that the allies are the bad guys, because look, there are pictures of dead Nazis, and we all know if you see someone dead then that must mean that the ones who killed them are bad and evil".[/QUOTE] What argument? I believe he was showing the impact not whether they were morally good or bad. Therefore your statement does not make any sense.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;27126105]Well that's true, but the argument still stands for the other way around: "Oh look those are a bunch of dead Nazis killed by the Allies in WW2, surely this means that the allies are the bad guys, because look, there are pictures of dead Nazis, and we all know if you see someone dead then that must mean that the ones who killed them are bad and evil".[/QUOTE] What the fuck are you talking about. And once again, there are no bad sides in war, only opposing sides. Do you think the Allies were bad to the Allies? No. Do you think the Nazi's were bad to the Nazi's? No.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;27126392]That's not even a funny joke. "Oh hurr they shouldn't of been fighting then!" But of course death/dying just for being an innocent civillian is a laughing matter to to you [editline]1st January 2011[/editline] BurnEmDown comparing dead Palestinian children to dead Nazis? That's a new one[/QUOTE] Holy shit civilians dies in war? I totally didn't know that.
[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;27128391]Holy shit civilians dies in war? I totally didn't know that.[/QUOTE] You moron. That doesn't make it right. It's like saying, 'lol inocent childs raped by pope? who care childs r raped all the tiem!1'
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;27124041]ok so first you make a statement without a source and the rest of your post is just conjecture?[/QUOTE] Ever heard of Israeli Settlements? [img]http://www.cincinnati4justiceinpalestine.org/images/palestinian_loss_of_land.jpg[/img] Again, this proves they are compressing the Palestinians into concentrated areas. Also pay Close attention to the last two maps, this is what im trying to show you. [editline]1st January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=BurnEmDown;27125781][img_thumb]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fQD_UfiH5iA/SnNqtvmnEkI/AAAAAAAABfU/O5kcd8KfMjg/s400/dead+nazi.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://www.cerebral-coffins.com/lilliput/1003/Dead%20Nazi%20officer%20in%20snow,%20Mabompre,%20Belgium,%201944.jpg[/img_thumb] Oh look those are a bunch of dead Nazis, surely this means that they're the goods ones, because look, there are pictures of them dead, and we all know if you see someone dead that must mean he was the good guy.[/QUOTE] But the difference between the palestinian situation and this is that we are showing you civilians not combatants [editline]1st January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Brage Nyman;27128391]Holy shit civilians dies in war? I totally didn't know that.[/QUOTE] Yea but not at such ridiculous numbers that could have been prevented. [editline]1st January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Brage Nyman;27126207]Perhaps it was a bad idea to have bring your children to the front line day. I mean Israel totally wants to kill children, pet, eskimos and babies.[/QUOTE] These are Eskimos [img]http://gobblegreen.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/eskimos.jpg[/img] These are palestinians [img]http://amideastchangeofcourse.org/palestinian%20costume.jpg[/img] Notice the Difference. Also from the way they use their airforce,artillery and missiles, yes, they want to kill Children, pet, "Eskimos", and babies. Also i have almost no doubt those children were killed by air strikes rather than ground forces But of course im not suprised by the intelligence of someone who took part in everybody Draw Mohammed Day. (Type "Brage Nyman" in google, he has a facebook also, and that old guy in the picture? Thats actually him.)
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