[QUOTE=Llivavin;22953280]Way to read that out of context.
It was in reference to home defense.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, alright.
Tell me, which guns here are 'assault weapons'?
[img]http://www.engstromauctions.com/November3Coin/pics/Ruger10_22.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i29.tinypic.com/aajeb4.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/50987.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22953292]nor do you shoot to incapacitate. You shoot to stop.[/QUOTE]
same thing
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[img]http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/ruger/ruger_5801.jpg[/img]
Lilvavin which one is the assault weapon?
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God damnit KMM
[QUOTE=mysteryman;22953269]whoah whoa whoa. We do? It hasn't done shit and i could easily go out and buy a handgun.
Then again i do know only gunstores can sell guns, we can't walk into a walmart and buy a shotgun.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Walmart still sells guns at many of their stores.
My friend just bought his shotgun at one.
Dohohoho ninja'd you Perfumly
[QUOTE=JDK721v2;22953334]same thing[/QUOTE]
Shooting to incapacitate implies you won't kill him. Shooting to stop implies you will kill if it's necessary.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22950659]That's fucking stupid[/QUOTE]
Are you kidding me
Please tell me you are not serious
Wow that seems like a dumb law.
Enlighten me if it isn't. Maybe some facts of how the gun law effected accidental death or something.
I mean, legalizing drugs seem to do good. With that logic legalizing guns should too.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22953292]Sorry, but what is an "assault weapon"? Is it a big scary black gun?
And no, you don't shoot to kill, nor do you shoot to incapacitate. You shoot to stop.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much shit listed here.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban[/url]
Anything else i'm fine with
[QUOTE=Llivavin;22953233]I refuse to take the life of another human, even if it means my own death.
I would however shoot to incapacitate.[/QUOTE]
Arguably that's even crueler.
Also the point of a gun isn't to cripple it's to kill.
[QUOTE=Llivavin;22953377]Pretty much shit listed here.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban[/url]
Anything else i'm fine with[/QUOTE]
Derp, you don't know how firearms work. It's a lot easier to kill a human with a hunting rifle than one of those things.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22953360]Shooting to incapacitate implies you won't kill him. [/QUOTE]
no, it doesn't. incapacitate just means that you will deprive him of the strength to fight back. it could mean wound severely enough or kill since both would do that.
[QUOTE=UserDirk580;22953380]Arguably that's even crueler.
Also the point of a gun isn't to cripple it's to kill.[/QUOTE]
There is no justice done by murder.
[QUOTE=JDK721v2;22953420]no, it doesn't. incapacitate just means that you will deprive him of the strength to fight back. it could mean wound severely enough or kill since both would do that.[/QUOTE]
You're right, my bad
[QUOTE=Llivavin;22953442]There is no justice done by murder.[/QUOTE]
lol
[QUOTE=Llivavin;22953442]There is no justice done by murder.[/QUOTE]
It's not a matter of justice it's a matter of self preservation holy shit you have to be trolling
Lilvavin lives in a disney movie
[QUOTE=the_KMM;22953352]Actually, Walmart still sells guns at many of their stores.
My friend just bought his shotgun at one.
Dohohoho ninja'd you Perfumly[/QUOTE]
I live in New Jersey. They rarely have gunshops anywhere :frown:
[QUOTE=Llivavin;22953377]Pretty much shit listed here.
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban[/URL]
Anything else i'm fine with[/QUOTE]
[LIST]
[*]Folding or [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telescoping_stock"]telescoping stock[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_grip"]Pistol grip[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayonet"]Bayonet[/URL] mount
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_suppressor"]Flash suppressor[/URL], or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenade_launcher"]Grenade launcher[/URL] (more precisely, a muzzle device which enables the launching or firing of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifle_grenade"]rifle grenades[/URL])
[/LIST]
Since when does a folding stock make a gun more deadly
since when does a pistol grip make a gun more deadly
There hasn't been a bayonet crime in the US for decades
flash suppresors are already ridiculously difficult to attain, and they need a federal permit
NOBODY sells grenade launchers
Semi-automatic [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol"]pistols[/URL] with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
[LIST]
[*]Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
[*]Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor"]suppressor[/URL]
[*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_shroud"]Barrel shroud[/URL] that can be used as a hand-hold
[*]Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
[*]A semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm
[/LIST]
how does an external mag make a gun more deadly
see my point on flash suppressors above
barrel shrouds actually make guns safer
the fuck does weight do to make a gun more deadly?
so what if it's a full-auto counterpart, if it's not full auto itself?
Semi-automatic [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun"]shotguns[/URL] with two or more of the following:
[LIST]
[*]Folding or telescoping stock
[*]Pistol grip
[*]Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
[*]Detachable magazine
[/LIST]
see above point
see above point
that's a ridiculously low capacity
how does a detachable mag make a gun more deadly
[QUOTE=Llivavin;22953233]I refuse to take the life of another human, even if it means my own death.
I would however shoot to incapacitate.[/QUOTE]
I dont understand your thinking. Even if you have the time and ability to fire a accurate shot into what you consider to be a nonlethal area there still in a good chance said person will die.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22953413]Derp, you don't know how firearms work. It's a lot easier to kill a human with a hunting rifle than one of those things.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but how many people are going to kill people with hunting rifles?
Movies have made it so people assume you need to use these kind of guns to unleash mayhem.
[QUOTE=Llivavin;22953442]There is no justice done by murder.[/QUOTE]
reply to my earlier post asking you which guns are assault weapons
[QUOTE=Llivavin;22953499]
Movies have made it so people assume you need to use these kind of guns to unleash mayhem.[/QUOTE]
You need to stop watching Barney.
[QUOTE=Llivavin;22953499]Yes, but how many people are going to kill people with hunting rifles?
Movies have made it so people assume you need to use these kind of guns to unleash mayhem.[/QUOTE]
Movies should influence legislation now?
Lol
Guys Twilight made people think that they are vampires we need to ban teeth.
I propose all of this to you anti-gun types.
I double-dog dare you to portray your disliking of guns as much as you do on the internet and extend that into your home life.
I want you to put up a big sign in your hard that PROUDLY proclaims.
"This is a NO GUN RESIDENCE. Gun violence is BAD. We have no guns here and we will never need one!"
Do it.
[QUOTE=ToXiCsoldier;22953041]So, commiting the crime yourself is better then?
And before you comment: taking a human life is always a crime.[/QUOTE]
:downs:
Crime: an act punishable by [B]law[/B].
And before you comment, here's a hint: your moral standpoints are [B]not[/B] the law.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;22953570]I propose all of this to you anti-gun types.
I double-dog dare you to portray your disliking of guns as much as you do on the internet and extend that into your home life.
I want you to put up a big sign in your hard that PROUDLY proclaims.
"This is a NO GUN RESIDENCE. Gun violence is BAD. We have no guns here and we will never need one!"
Do it.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.funnyandjokes.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/gun-free-family.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;22953578]:downs:
Crime: an act punishable by [B]law[/B].
And before you comment, here's a hint: your moral standpoints are [B]not[/B] the law.[/QUOTE]
Unless you're Judge Dredd
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[QUOTE=the_KMM;22953593][img]http://www.funnyandjokes.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/gun-free-family.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
I've actually seen signs like that, pretty comical.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22953595]
I've actually seen signs like that, pretty comical.[/QUOTE]
You've got to be shitting me....
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7pGt_O1uM8[/media]
The anti-gun and pro-gun control mindset.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;22953613]You've got to be shitting me....[/QUOTE]
May as well paint PLEASE ROB ME all over the property.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;22953620][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7pGt_O1uM8[/media]
The anti-gun and pro-gun control mindset.[/QUOTE]
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