In my opinion it's more of a victory towards keeping our freedoms than anything. And I will fight for my freedoms to the death.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;22975395]LOL, [i]you really think [u]you[/u] can take on the Government with their [u]planes and tanks[/u] you redneck?[/i]
Meanwhile I find it odd that some of these same people who say this are the ones who said the U.S. was losing the War in Iraq, to city dwellers and farmers with AKs with RPGs and other weapons raided from Iraqi Army Armories, they had no Anti-Air, they had no Tanks, or Helicopters, or Jets, at the very most they had were some Pick-ups with a PK on the top of the cab, yet they nearly made the U.S. military lose the war, now pit the Military against people who actually speak the same language as them and live in places they have been to, and unlike Yugoslavia where everyone split on ethnic lines, there's no such room for that in the US as unlike Yugoslavia, the Irish have no state in the U.S. that's their homeland, there's no state in the U.S. that the German-Americans that's their homeland, everyone is American, Not Irish or German or African, but Americans unlike Yugoslavia where the Croats had Croatia, the Serbs had Serbia, and the Slovenians had Slovenija, and the free for all known as Bosnia that everyone wanted a piece of and had a strong hold in with the Bosniaks fucked 9 ways to sunday by everyone it bordered until the Croats realized the Serbs were mutual enemies of both Bosniaks and Croats, of course all of us were Yugoslavs, but after Tito died and the economy went to shit, we became disillusioned with Yugoslavia and gave way for nationalism.[/QUOTE]
Have you tried like...decaf, maybe?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;22975656]Have you tried like...decaf, maybe?[/QUOTE]
Wait... let me see if I got this right.
Instead of forming an actual argument, you're just going to insult him?
You're so avant-garde.
@ Broseph
You're stating that average Americans don't know two shits about how to defend themselves. I need to ask you something... If a civil war/rebellion happened in America what is the best solution that the civilians won't just adapt to the area they live in, and attempt to use scare tactics... I for one know almost every other cave/trail on the Catalina Mountains. You may be saying... Well that doesn't mean you don't know how to use them for a tactical advantage, but you gotta remember something... I know where they are. If I could form a small party who are armed with a few hunting rifles, and makeshift potato mashers how long do you think it will take for someone who has never been in those mountains to find, and take me down.
I know a highly trained soldier would be able to kill me, but the fact is once you're playing on your home grounds it becomes a lot more... I gotta do this because this is where I live.
As for your argument regarding, "I speak the same language." doesn't mean I can't make call sings/slang.
A few guidelines if you're ever caught fighting on your homeland... You have no rules, and if you have to be dirty... Be dirty.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;22977205]@ Broseph
You're stating that average Americans don't know two shits about how to defend themselves. I need to ask you something... If a civil war/rebellion happened in America what is the best solution that the civilians won't just adapt to the area they live in, and attempt to use scare tactics... I for one know almost every other cave/trail on the Catalina Mountains. You may be saying... Well that doesn't mean you don't know how to use them for a tactical advantage, but you gotta remember something... I know where they are. If I could form a small party who are armed with a few hunting rifles, and makeshift potato mashers how long do you think it will take for someone who has never been in those mountains to find, and take me down.
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Airstrike.
[QUOTE=Doriol;22977223]Airstrike.[/QUOTE]
In a random tunnel? They'd have to carpet bomb 100 sq miles to route out a [i]single[/i] band of insurgents.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;22975395]LOL, [i]you really think [u]you[/u] can take on the Government with their [u]planes and tanks[/u] you redneck?[/i]
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200 people charging up the steps of the capital building is all it takes.
[QUOTE=AnEvilGuy;22977278]200 people charging up the steps of the capital building is all it takes.[/QUOTE]
You're delusional.
[QUOTE=Doriol;22977389]You're delusional.[/QUOTE]
I didn't really plan that post out, rate me boxes.
[QUOTE=Doriol;22977223]Airstrike.[/QUOTE]
So your trying to tell me they'll carpet bomb almost twenty miles of mountain range with almost 100+ caves just to rat out one band of insurgents?
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;22978406]So your trying to tell me they'll carpet bomb almost twenty miles of mountain range with almost 100+ caves just to rat out one band of insurgents?[/QUOTE]
Just as stupid of an idea as creating a militia in the U.S.
Yet militias created U.S.A?
That was more than 200 years ago, smartass.
This just in: Doriol doesn't understand the mechanics of a resistance movement, so we should all turn over our guns to the government
IF the government gave us reason to rebel, I would think the military would side with the people, seeing as they are people with families who can tell the difference between valid reasoning and a tyrannical government.
Besides, the right to self defense is always needed, there are people in this world who will take what you have worked hard to earn, it is your right to defend your family, yourself, and your property.
[QUOTE=GunFox;22979107]This just in: Doriol doesn't understand the mechanics of a resistance movement, so we should all turn over our guns to the government[/QUOTE]
I'm not anti-gun. I just think that creating a militia in this day and age is a stupid idea.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;22979128]IF the government gave us reason to rebel, I would think the military would side with the people, seeing as they are people with families who can tell the difference between valid reasoning and a tyrannical government. [/QUOTE]
If the military turn on the government then civilians having guns is irrelevent.
[QUOTE=Doriol;22978539]Just as stupid of an idea as creating a militia in the U.S.[/QUOTE]
No, it really isn't.
Militias as a concept aren't a bad thing, but in their current form, i.e. mostly batshit insane backwoods government haters setting up a survivalist group (which are all too commonly some fucked up form of Christian), they're not too good. Especially since they're mostly fueled by rampant conspiracy theorism about Obama setting up FEMA death camps and the NWO and a bunch of other insane things.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;22980082]Militias as a concept aren't a bad thing, but in their current form, i.e. mostly batshit insane backwoods government haters setting up a survivalist group (which are all too commonly some fucked up form of Christian), they're not too good. Especially since they're mostly fueled by rampant conspiracy theorism about Obama setting up FEMA death camps and the NWO and a bunch of other insane things.[/QUOTE]
Apparentely not all militias are like that according to Emperor Scorpious. :rolleye:
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;22980282]Apparentely not all militias are like that according to Emperor Scorpious. :rolleye:[/QUOTE]
Hey, I said mostly. I know there are a [I]few [/I]that aren't insane survivalist groups preparing for Armageddon or Obama, whichever comes first :v:
If I remember correctly... Their is a group somewhere in Flagstaff which is around in the cases of a Mexican Invasion. Weird part is... 25% of the members are Hispanic decent.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;22980677]If I remember correctly... Their is a group somewhere in Flagstaff which is around in the cases of a Mexican Invasion. Weird part is... 25% of the members are Hispanic decent.[/QUOTE]
Ah, La Reconquista and the Aztlan Plan, the favorite of anti-immigration people. Always a funny thing to hear about.
You guys know that few militias are the whack jobs living in the backwoods, stockpiling food and ammo for when the time comes to fight the feds, right? Those just get the most media time.
No word on the national news of when the militia helped the police find two missing persons in a large wooded area that was too big for the rescue forces to search on their own..
[QUOTE=Ridge;22980915]You guys know that few militias are the whack jobs living in the backwoods, stockpiling food and ammo for when the time comes to fight the feds, right? Those just get the most media time.
No word on the national news of when the militia helped the police find two missing persons in a large wooded area that was too big for the rescue forces to search on their own..[/QUOTE]
Your second sentence proves why the first one is kind of wrong.
[QUOTE=Broseph_;22975395]
Meanwhile I find it odd that some of these same people who say this are the ones who said the U.S. was losing the War in Iraq, to city dwellers and farmers with AKs with RPGs and other weapons raided from Iraqi Army Armories, they had no Anti-Air, they had no Tanks, or Helicopters, or Jets, at the very most they had were some Pick-ups with a PK on the top of the cab, yet they nearly made the U.S. military lose the war, now pit the Military against people who actually speak the same language as them and live in places they have been to, and unlike Yugoslavia where everyone split on ethnic lines, there's no such room for that in the US as unlike Yugoslavia, the Irish have no state in the U.S. that's their homeland, there's no state in the U.S. that the German-Americans that's their homeland, everyone is American, Not Irish or German or African, but Americans unlike Yugoslavia where the Croats had Croatia, the Serbs had Serbia, and the Slovenians had Slovenija, and the free for all known as Bosnia that everyone wanted a piece of and had a strong hold in with the Bosniaks fucked 9 ways to sunday by everyone it bordered until the Croats realized the Serbs were mutual enemies of both Bosniaks and Croats, of course all of us were Yugoslavs, but after Tito died and the economy went to shit, we became disillusioned with Yugoslavia and gave way for nationalism.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha, no-one said the US is losing, it's just an not a winnable war, that's why it keeps dragging on and on and on and on and on. Afghanistan on the other hand, is a winnable war, but it will take many more years and primarily education.
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[QUOTE=dogmachines;22979128]IF the government gave us reason to rebel, I would think the military would side with the people, seeing as they are people with families who can tell the difference between valid reasoning and a tyrannical government.
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Pretty much this. People seem to forget that the military is made of [B]people[/B]. While I can envision a few political scenarios where it might actually be feasible that the military wouldn't collapse when asked to wage war on it's homeland, such scenarios are pretty unlikely.
[QUOTE=Doriol;22977389]You're delusional.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, you need atleast a couple thousand
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[QUOTE=Doriol;22977223]Airstrike.[/QUOTE]
Sup guys
[IMG]http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/photogallerys/Mujahideen.jpg[/IMG]
And before you shittalk it should be noted shoulder fired anti-air missiles have downed a AC-130 gunship and Low flying Fighter Jets before in addition to the Helicopters
[QUOTE=Broseph_;22990072]Yeah, you need atleast a couple thousand
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You seem to forget that we're talking about the U.S.
So how do i now legally get my fully automatic suppressed ak?
[QUOTE=Doriol;22990369]You seem to forget that we're talking about the U.S.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, where people actually own guns, unlike Kyrgyzstan you had to belong to a ministry or be sitting in parliament to own a weapon.
Also the teabaggers have showed up in enough numbers in order to storm the Capitol
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/TeaPartyByFreedomFan.JPG[/IMG]
That has to be like 10 thousand people there at least and I bet 98% of them own guns
Also consdiering these idiots make up so much of the Military I don't doubt someone in a Military Unit in the DC area would desert with a tank
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