• US Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Gun Rights
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[QUOTE=FoxwolfJackson;23004693] First rule of Tae Kwon Do in our dojang is avoidance. 95% of conflicts can be avoided if one is smart about it. If you can avoid this situation, you won't need to use your self-defense. ie: they wave their saturday night special? That's nice... you can wave your .44 right back at them and tell them to GTFO.[/QUOTE] Ok I was actually trying to make pro-gun argument there, but I think if someone has their gun aimed at you it's a bit late to try and draw yours.
[QUOTE=mobrockers;23002887]I don't get why you americans need your own guns, we don't need guns where I live to protect ourself, and if you guys do, then your government fails big time.[/QUOTE] We don't just need guns we want them. Guns are interesting. [editline]10:18AM[/editline] [QUOTE=FoxwolfJackson;23004693] ... and people called the pro-gun people idiots for stereotyping burglars and thieves? [/QUOTE] Officially teabaggers themselves believe in political action over violence anyway, so everyone saying revolt is possible just sounds like a country bumpkin saying the South will rise again.
I find it funny that what I said sarcastically numerous posts back is being said, in seriousness, by some people. Someone killing you over your TV? Could happen. People have shot and killed others over Air Jordan shoes. So why not a nice flat screen TV? Has anyone on here never heard of a "robbery gone bad" ? The golden rule is simple. One of the basics of firearm safety is you never point it at an object unless you intend to shoot it. You point a gun at me - regardless of your intention - you intend to shoot me in my views based off of simple safety training. Fair game. I find it absolutely hilarious that some of you assume that a home security system will keep you safe. It will deter low level criminals. It'll scare away some of the more experienced. But the hardened criminals could care less about your little noise maker. When seconds count. The police are minutes away. There is ample time for them to come in, shoot you, steal your shit, and leave. I swear, some of these people in this thread still probably believe if you stick your head under the covers the monsters will not see you.
[QUOTE=HkSniper;23007477]I find it funny that what I said sarcastically numerous posts back is being said, in seriousness, by some people. Someone killing you over your TV? Could happen. People have shot and killed others over Air Jordan shoes. So why not a nice flat screen TV? Has anyone on here never heard of a "robbery gone bad" ? The golden rule is simple. One of the basics of firearm safety is you never point it at an object unless you intend to shoot it. You point a gun at me - regardless of your intention - you intend to shoot me in my views based off of simple safety training. Fair game. I find it absolutely hilarious that some of you assume that a home security system will keep you safe. It will deter low level criminals. It'll scare away some of the more experienced. But the hardened criminals could care less about your little noise maker. When seconds count. The police are minutes away. There is ample time for them to come in, shoot you, steal your shit, and leave. I swear, some of these people in this thread still probably believe if you stick your head under the covers the monsters will not see you.[/QUOTE] my favorite is the whole "non-lethal shot" thing, makes me laugh every time
[QUOTE=HkSniper;23007477]I find it funny that what I said sarcastically numerous posts back is being said, in seriousness, by some people. Someone killing you over your TV? Could happen. People have shot and killed others over Air Jordan shoes. So why not a nice flat screen TV? Has anyone on here never heard of a "robbery gone bad" ? The golden rule is simple. One of the basics of firearm safety is you never point it at an object unless you intend to shoot it. You point a gun at me - regardless of your intention - you intend to shoot me in my views based off of simple safety training. Fair game. I find it absolutely hilarious that some of you assume that a home security system will keep you safe. It will deter low level criminals. It'll scare away some of the more experienced. But the hardened criminals could care less about your little noise maker. When seconds count. The police are minutes away. There is ample time for them to come in, shoot you, steal your shit, and leave. I swear, some of these people in this thread still probably believe if you stick your head under the covers the monsters will not see you.[/QUOTE] Took the words out of my mouth. [editline]10:48AM[/editline] A women in the UK got killed over 20 pounds by two crack heads. True story.
[QUOTE=Billiam;23002911]Isoroku Yamamoto, Commander of the Imperial Japanese Navy. [editline]07:34AM[/editline] The point of the second amendment is toppling our government.[/QUOTE] I thought the second amendment was so that you could defend yourself form the [b]english[/b] government but whatever. [editline]07:27PM[/editline] [QUOTE=HkSniper;23007477]I find it funny that what I said sarcastically numerous posts back is being said, in seriousness, by some people. Someone killing you over your TV? Could happen. People have shot and killed others over Air Jordan shoes. So why not a nice flat screen TV? Has anyone on here never heard of a "robbery gone bad" ? The golden rule is simple. One of the basics of firearm safety is you never point it at an object unless you intend to shoot it. You point a gun at me - regardless of your intention - you intend to shoot me in my views based off of simple safety training. Fair game. I find it absolutely hilarious that some of you assume that a home security system will keep you safe. It will deter low level criminals. It'll scare away some of the more experienced. But the hardened criminals could care less about your little noise maker. When seconds count. The police are minutes away. There is ample time for them to come in, shoot you, steal your shit, and leave. I swear, some of these people in this thread still probably believe if you stick your head under the covers the monsters will not see you.[/QUOTE] There is no need for a gun where I live, there are not that many thieves, I suggest you move to a better country.
[QUOTE=Billiam;23002911]Isoroku Yamamoto, Commander of the Imperial Japanese Navy.[/QUOTE] he never said that it's US propaganda [url]http://factcheck.org/2009/05/misquoting-yamamoto/[/url]
[QUOTE=mobrockers;23008525]I thought the second amendment was so that you could defend yourself form the [b]english[/b] government but whatever. [editline]07:27PM[/editline] There is no need for a gun where I live, there are not that many thieves, I suggest you move to a better country.[/QUOTE] You're absolutely clueless. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GNu7ldL1LM[/media]
[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;23008850]You're absolutely clueless. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GNu7ldL1LM[/media][/QUOTE] Thats why I said "I thought", forgive me for not knowing what your country's amendments are for.
I feel like buying a Kalashnikov.
[QUOTE=Neon-Knight;23001867]People have difficulty understanding the difference between a burglar and a murderer. There is quite a difference there. You think somebody's going to [I]kill[/I] you for your flatscreen TV, and then probably spend the rest of their life being arsefucked in jail? You have a real serious problem if you honestly think every burglar is a cold-hearted killer in disguise who's going to kill you at first contact. And you're also flattering yourself if you think you're worth killing for your stuff. If they have any weapons on them, it's only to scare you. There's a reason why, when a group of criminals holds a shop at gun point, they [I]don't[/I] just shoot everybody in the room first, and then take the money for themselves. They aren't 'lusting for blood'. So no, you don't need a gun to defend yourself, because they have no plans to actually hurt you. They just want your stuff, and until your start waving guns around, they are not going to kill you. Instead of loading your house with guns so you can murder any intruder, how about you instead invest in some decent home security? Like, locks that are decent, and alarm systems. That way you won't feel like such an idiot when your child finds your weapons stash and blows his own head off by accident. Or how about this? Get some self defence training. It's actually really rather easy to disarm an opponent and gain control of his weapon.[/QUOTE] Warren v. District of Columbia the ruling is somewhat relevant to the conversation, but the crime committed started out as a theft it ended in a several-hour-long rape of multiple people
What happens to california gun laws now?
[QUOTE=Murkat;22950446]Goddamn motherfucking guns.[/QUOTE] Fuck his mah!
[QUOTE=uberdood15;23016338]What happens to california gun laws now?[/QUOTE] Clocks, dude. Read the thread, it's there on like the first 3 pages.
Doesn't DC still ban handguns? When that's going to be repealled? Edit: Probably should have Googled first because it looks like DC mostly stopped banning guns like a year ago.
Banning handguns is illegal and unconstitutional. Also it does nothing to stop violence or the flow of illegal weapons.
how is banning handguns illegal? serious question
[QUOTE=Doriol;23017708]how is banning handguns illegal? serious question[/QUOTE] Second Amendment
"There's no such thing as a good gun. There's no such thing as a bad gun. A gun in the hands of a bad man is a very dangerous thing. A gun in the hands of a good person is no danger to anyone except the bad guys." [B]-Charlton Heston[/B], 15 Sept 1997, Fox News Channel “A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity” - [B]Sigmund Freud[/B] "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government." [B]-Thomas Jefferson[/B] [B]George Washington:[/B] "A free people ought to be armed." (Jan 14 1790, Boston Independent Chronicle.) [B]John F. Kennedy:[/B] "By calling attention to 'a well regulated militia,' 'the security of the nation,' and the right of each citizen 'to keep and bear arms,' our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy... The Second Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important." John F. Kennedy, Junior Senator of MA in a 1959 letter to E.B. Mann [From the 1974 Gun Digest, article titled Gun Laws] [quote]There is no need for a gun where I live, there are not that many thieves, I suggest you move to a better country.[/quote]Its an even better and more moral suggestion to stay where you live and make it better. But maybe you're right. We'll move to Europe, demand free healthcare and education, and we'll bring our big 4x4s and guns and have a good old time about it...
Guns are cool
If someone wants a fucking gun, give them a fucking gun. If they use it badly, send them to jail.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22950526]Then let him take my shit. Nothing I own is more important than a human life. Perceive the way of nature and no force of man can harm you. Do not meet a wave head on: avoid it. You do not have to stop force: it is easier to redirect it. Learn more ways to preserve rather than destroy. Avoid rather than check. Check rather than hurt. Hurt rather than maim. Maim rather than kill. For all life is precious nor can any be replaced[/QUOTE] Dat's some hippy talkin' right there. And we don't take to kindly to yer types 'round here.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;23003917]They can't storm the capital their hoveround will run out of batteries! Many of the people won't be able to get up the stairs! They'll need shuttles just to get to the white house lawn![/QUOTE] Due to the Americans With Disabilities act the Capitol is required by law to have ramps and elevators :v:
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;23017729]Second Amendment[/QUOTE] wouldn't that be unconstitutional, not illegal? I'm arguing semantics btw
[QUOTE=Doriol;23021607]wouldn't that be unconstitutional, not illegal? I'm arguing semantics btw[/QUOTE] Yes it would, though I find it odd how we don't penalize people who make unconstitutional laws other then voiding the law it self
[QUOTE=Ridge;23017945]"There's no such thing as a good gun. There's no such thing as a bad gun. A gun in the hands of a bad man is a very dangerous thing. A gun in the hands of a good person is no danger to anyone except the bad guys." [B]-Charlton Heston[/B], 15 Sept 1997, Fox News Channel “A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity” - [B]Sigmund Freud[/B] "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government." [B]-Thomas Jefferson[/B] [B]George Washington:[/B] "A free people ought to be armed." (Jan 14 1790, Boston Independent Chronicle.) [B]John F. Kennedy:[/B] "By calling attention to 'a well regulated militia,' 'the security of the nation,' and the right of each citizen 'to keep and bear arms,' our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy... The Second Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important." John F. Kennedy, Junior Senator of MA in a 1959 letter to E.B. Mann [From the 1974 Gun Digest, article titled Gun Laws] Its an even better and more moral suggestion to stay where you live and make it better. But maybe you're right. We'll move to Europe, demand free healthcare and education, and we'll bring our big 4x4s and guns and have a good old time about it...[/QUOTE] You can't bring your guns, you won't get free healthcare, and good luck with your 4x4's, will cost you a shitton on taxes and fuel.
[QUOTE=mobrockers;23025268]You can't bring your guns, you won't get free healthcare, and good luck with your 4x4's, will cost you a shitton on taxes and fuel.[/QUOTE] sounds like freedom of choice in general in Europe isn't an issue
[QUOTE=GunFox;22950523]It's not considered news worthy. The only times it shows up in the news are when a person shoots someone robbing their neighbor's house. Self defense occurs pretty often. My insurance is lower because I own firearms. Chew on that for a minute.[/QUOTE] bzzzzzzZING We need the zing rating back :saddowns:
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22950443]Somebody robs my house, I'm not going to shoot them. I'm not a trigger happy redneck.[/QUOTE] You're an idiot, so you'd rather you let someone steal all your posessions rather than shooting them in like the shoulder as a punishment for their action?
[QUOTE=Billiam;22968285]Correlation does not imply causation.[/QUOTE] :pseudo: I know I'm a few pages late but I just had to Also just finished reading the thread, too bad Proboards is gone forever
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