[QUOTE=GunFox;22951161]Not really. Insurance is all a numbers game. The numbers show that armed individuals are less likely to suffer property loss or medical bills from intruders. It makes armed customers of lower risk.
Just numbers, kiddo.[/QUOTE]
Hey gunfox, stop using words like "Kid" or "Kiddo" to seem more mature than someone else. It only makes you look like a douchebag.
[QUOTE=Jund;22951146]This is not about willpower. I'm saying that you could still kill, or at least fatally wound someone with a gun from more than a century ago.[/QUOTE]
As you can do with a gun today. I'm not saying ban guns, i'm saying limit them. A handgun today is fundamentally comparable to a handgun 200 years ago, yes, but an assault rifle today has no comparison to back then, and no real use outside of the military. Civilian limits on weapons that are unreasonably powerful is a valid idea.
[QUOTE=lemongrapes;22951158]I'm fine with using guns for hunting, ranges, clay pigeons etc... Its just when it gets to the paranoia of everyone shooting anyone doing anything in 'self defence' that just gets a bit stupid.[/QUOTE]
The thing is, that paranoia does not exist in this world. It's just horseshit from people who hate guns.
[QUOTE=JLea;22951183]i honestly don't believe 5,000 + kids die from guns every year[/QUOTE]
11 thousand people die from gun crime in the US.
[quote=proboardslolv2;22951084]american children are more at risk from firearms than the children of any other industrialized nation. In one year, firearms killed no children in japan, 19 in great britain, 57 in germany, 109 in france, 153 in canada, and 5,285 in the united states
want to know something about all those countries?
Japan allows no handguns, and you have to apply to buy a shotgun
great britain banned firearms.
Germany has severe limitations on their weapons
france allows only a certain caliber, and no automatic weapons.
In canada you have to get a license to buy a gun and be aligned with a hunting organization.
In the us, we have very low restrictions on what you can and can't buy.[/quote]
source?
[QUOTE=Doriol;22951087]Excuse my ignorance, but... what?[/QUOTE]
Rifle butt to the groin series.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22951144]You think it's just a coincidence that 5 thousand children die from accidents? this is gun crime, not accidents.[/QUOTE]
I guarantee you that over 3/4 of those deaths were immature kids with guns in gangs. The other were irresponsible gun owners.
Because one idiot with a gun means the government can take them all away.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22951196]Hey gunfox, stop using words like "Kid" or "Kiddo" to seem more mature than someone else. It only makes you look like a douchebag.[/QUOTE]
Bitching and whining about somebody using words like "kiddo" doesn't exactly make you seem mature, either. Try actually making a valid argument rather than resorting to ad hominem.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;22951228]Rifle butt to the groin series.[/QUOTE]
Awesome.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22951210]11 thousand people die from gun crime in the US.[/QUOTE]
Source!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;22951204]The thing is, that paranoia does not exist in this world. It's just horseshit from people who hate guns.[/QUOTE]
then explain why everybody is afraid that everyone is out to kill them? It's a stereotype that LA is crime ridden, but you're actually more likely to die from the air pollution than you are to get shot.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22951210]11 thousand people die from gun crime in the US.[/QUOTE]
So? I wouldn't want my rights taken because some retard went crazy with a gun.
[quote=proboardslolv2;22951196]hey gunfox, stop using words like "kid" or "kiddo" to seem more mature than someone else. It only makes you look like a douchebag.[/quote]
source!
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22950695]And that is what republicans are ACTUALLY thinking.[/QUOTE]
Republicans aren't capable of thinking, that's what [I]I'm[/I] thinking man. As soon as I turn 18, in a few months, I'm getting myself a mossberg with a pistol grip.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22950605]Hide.[/QUOTE]
Your entire argument is based on "if". This is not about how YOU can handle the situation. A weak, feeble man can't pick up a baseball bat and fight off 3 thugs robbing his house, especially if one is packing heat. These thugs are looking for money and valuables, so hiding is out of the questions. You'd be fine IF they don't find you.
You think that people should just sit there and take it up the ass (quite literally sometimes) as they get robbed. Tasers? They are unreliable and are futile if there are more than 1 robbers. If,If,If. Welcome to the real world, we don't live in a fantasy land where thieves are courteous and gentle. This isn't robin hood. The life of me and my family are more important than those of some thugs. Beyond that, most people would hold their fire unless the criminal is carrying a weapon. The 2nd amendment is part of the never changing basis of US government. If u live in the US and don't like it, then find yourself a new flag.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22951210]11 thousand people die from gun crime in the US.[/QUOTE]
Per minute.
I need some statistics Proboard
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22951196]Hey gunfox, stop using words like "Kid" or "Kiddo" to seem more mature than someone else. It only makes you look like a douchebag.[/QUOTE]
lol.
I love this thread.
[QUOTE=Craptasket;22951234]Source!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_07.html[/url]
sorry it was 14 thousand
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22951210]11 thousand people die from gun crime in the US.[/QUOTE]
Before you ban guns then you should ban alcohol, cigarettes, and McDonald's.
And you are NEVER taking away my McDonald's from me do you hear me OBAMA?! SHOW ME YOUR BIRTH CERFITIRMINICATE ARGH.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22951293][URL]http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_07.html[/URL]
sorry it was 14 thousand[/QUOTE]
Murder victims! :downs:
Imagine if those victims had guns.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;22951295]Before you ban guns then you should ban alcohol, cigarettes, and McDonald's.
[/QUOTE]
Assuming you're not being sarcastic: Why should the government regulate what people consume?
I'm getting out of here before any other rednecks who feel like doing a clint eastwood impression get in here
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22951238]then explain why everybody is afraid that everyone is out to kill them? It's a stereotype that LA is crime ridden, but you're actually more likely to die from the air pollution than you are to get shot.[/QUOTE]
You're arguing against guns, and then you say it's more likely to have air pollution kill you than a firearm....You're confusing me terribly.
And, no, everyone is NOT "afraid everyone is out to kill them". If you are, I suggest you put a tinfoil hat on your head and check into the nearest psychiatric ward.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22951293][URL]http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_07.html[/URL]
sorry it was 14 thousand[/QUOTE]
Also wtf?
More then half of those deaths were [B]non-firearm [/B]related.
[QUOTE=Doriol;22951328]Assuming you're not being sarcastic: Why should the government regulate what people consume?[/QUOTE]
so corporations don't cut corners and end up killing people.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22951334]I'm getting out of here before any other rednecks who feel like doing a clint eastwood impression get in here[/QUOTE]
The real reason you're leaving is that you have no real argument.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22951355]Also wtf?
More then half of those deaths were [B]non-firearm [/B]related.[/QUOTE]
ok then, 10 thousand
BDA, I thought you were in the military
How did you get back on FP?
Also, yeah. If somebody breaks into my house, I'll have a nice semi-auto mag-fed 12 gauge surprise for them. All seven 12-round banana mags of it.
[QUOTE=Doriol;22951328]Assuming you're not being sarcastic: Why should the government regulate what people consume?[/QUOTE]
My point is they shouldn't and guns are just one more thing people consume.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22951334]I'm getting out of here before any other rednecks who feel like doing a clint eastwood impression get in here[/QUOTE]
:byewhore:
Sorry for you being wrong
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