[QUOTE=Perfumly;22952492]Haha hiding in your own home so you can let a murderer rob you and escape.
Nice.[/QUOTE]
It's a ~moral~ choice.
[QUOTE=GunFox;22950388]No it largely just means they generally can't pass laws that are more strict than federal law.
So no handgun bans or assault weapon limitations at a state or local level.
Fully automatic weapons, explosives, and other destructive devices are already controlled by the ATF. As are short barreled rifles and suppressors.[/QUOTE]
hoohoho shit get ready for america to become a fucking warzone.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22952475]He only has a V2.
Leon Trotsky was a social experiment, but other then that he only uses one alt. It isn't banned, he just isn't using it.
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/member.php?u=210994[/url][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=the_KMM;22952382][U][I][B]HELLOOOOOO FOLKS, AND WE HAVE A SPECTACULAR MATCHUP FOR YOU TODAY
[/B][/I][/U][B]GUNFOX, BIG DUMB AMERICAN, BEAN-O, AND EMPEROR SCORPIUS ARE GOING TO PUMMEL THE SHIT OUT OF WARHOL, JDK, AND PROBOARDSLOLV2
Make that just Warhol and JDK
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Uhh you know JDK is pro-gun
[QUOTE=Comrade General;22952531]hoohoho shit get ready for america to become a fucking warzone.[/QUOTE]
Yeah a warzone in the courts.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22950551]Ok how's this:
Buy a gun. Go ahead. Get a handgun. Something to subdue an intruder. Why do you need an automatic rifle or a shotgun?[/QUOTE]
It's not about needing something, it's about the government not having a right to control what it's people own.
Nobody needs a sports car, why are those still legal?
And why you need a gun to defend your family?
Real men use their fists like this dude:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szjNo-Y0bLY[/media]
Also does this mean that SPAS-12's are legally importable now?
[QUOTE=Comrade General;22952531]hoohoho shit get ready for america to become a fucking warzone.[/QUOTE]
Because we're just bursting at the seems for a fight :downs:
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[QUOTE=Perfumly;22952552]Uhh you know JDK is pro-gun[/QUOTE]
I think I just shit my pants
[QUOTE=ToXiCsoldier;22952574]And why you need a gun to defend your family?
Real men use their fists like this dude:
[URL="http://www.facepunch.com/#"]View YouTUBE video[/URL]
[URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=szjNo-Y0bLY[/URL]
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I'll bet you think you're cool
the more freedom people have the better. Good job Judicial branch
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22952552]Uhh you know JDK is pro-gun[/QUOTE]
Uhh you know he changed his opinion.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22950551]Ok how's this:
Buy a gun. Go ahead. Get a handgun. Something to subdue an intruder. Why do you need an automatic rifle or a shotgun?[/QUOTE]
Would you prefer it if you had
A: A pistol with low stopping power(beretta 92F for example)
B: A shotgun with high stopping power, Multiple uses. And the chance to defend yourself incase your attacker is wearing armor.
C: A baseball bat
[QUOTE=starpluck;22952622]Uhh you know he changed his opinion.[/QUOTE]
Damn, just when I thought there was hope
[QUOTE=Comrade General;22952577]Also does this mean that SPAS-12's are legally importable now?[/QUOTE]
They aren't manufactured anymore so it wouldn't make a big difference
go for a Mossberg 500/590 or a Remington 870
better yet a Saiga 12
[QUOTE=Clavus;22950392]I'm not entirely anti-gun, it would be ok if there were controlled gun ranges and hunting grounds, but keeping guns at home 'for your own defense' is total bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Because you really have three minutes to sit around waiting for the police to show up when someone is in your house with the intent to rob/kill you.
Anyone remember that 911 recording from a while back, where it took the cops fifteen minutes to show up at that woman's house? She ended up having to shoot the intruder in self defense.
In your ideal world, Clavus, she would be dead now, methinks.
[QUOTE=Comrade General;22952641]Would you prefer it if you had
A: A pistol with low stopping power(beretta 92F for example)
B: A shotgun with high stopping power, Multiple uses. And the chance to defend yourself incase your attacker is wearing armor.
C: A baseball bat[/QUOTE]
He picked
D: Run and hide
[QUOTE=starpluck;22952622]Uhh you know he changed his opinion.[/QUOTE]
I'm talking to him on steam right now you tart.
[QUOTE=Comrade General;22952641]Would you prefer it if you had
A: A pistol with low stopping power(beretta 92F for example)
B: A shotgun with high stopping power, Multiple uses. And the chance to defend yourself incase your attacker is wearing armor.
C: A baseball bat[/QUOTE]
buckshot won't go through body armor unless it's really REALLY shitty
[QUOTE=Comrade General;22952577]Also does this mean that SPAS-12's are legally importable now?[/QUOTE]
No that's a federal law. Part of a change to the 1968 Gun Control Act that was done in the late 80's early 90's regarding the importation of "sporting" weapons as opposed to "guns that had no sporting use". Federal laws aren't affected by this ruling.
Besides which I don't think they even make SPAS-12s anymore. They really weren't all that great to begin with anyway.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22952658]I'm talking to him on steam right now you tart.[/QUOTE]
Oh.
[QUOTE=Comrade General;22952641]Would you prefer it if you had
A: A pistol with low stopping power(beretta 92F for example)
B: A shotgun with high stopping power, Multiple uses. And the chance to defend yourself incase your attacker is wearing armor.
C: A baseball bat[/QUOTE]
You have literally no idea what you're talking about.
[QUOTE=the_KMM;22952666]buckshot won't go through body armor unless it's really REALLY shitty[/QUOTE]
Multiple shots will tear up a Kevlar vest.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22950551]Ok how's this:
Buy a gun. Go ahead. Get a handgun. Something to subdue an intruder. Why do you need an automatic rifle or a shotgun?[/QUOTE]
I'd shoot to injure only, like in the leg. If I could only fire a lethal shot I wouldn't take it. I'd feel guilty, wouldn't have accomplished much, and would have a large chance of going to jail.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22952686]You have literally no idea what you're talking about.[/QUOTE]
I do. Really. Would you prefer to have a pistol that has lower stopping power than a shotgun that will almost always put him down even if it just bruises him via armor impact?
[QUOTE=Comrade General;22952691]Multiple shots will tear up a Kevlar vest.[/QUOTE]
How many shots do you think you'll be able to put into a guy if you confront him in your house? Not enough to do that, I assure you.
THE GOOD NEWS: If you shoot somebody wearing body armor with a shotgun, you'll break whatever bones you would have otherwise hit
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[QUOTE=Comrade General;22952710]I do. Really. Would you prefer to have a pistol that has lower stopping power than a shotgun that will almost always put him down even if it just bruises him via armor impact?[/QUOTE]
I would prefer to have an AR carbine because it will punch through a kevlar vest. Buckshot/9mm won't unless you shoot a few times.
A vast majority of people who vote gun control laws into place, or those who support gun control get their ideas from the movies.
They think that by magically adding plastic to guns automatically turns them into some sort of ultra killing machine.
They think by adding less restrictions, or allowing for citizens to conceal carry will turn the US into a warzone.
Each time someone says this and the law passes - where are these people three or four years down the road? They hide and do not mention a single thing when they are proven wrong.
The amount of sheer ignorance is always funny. When it comes to firearms - the uninformed and pro-gun control types spew so much false information and stupid claims in an effort to stir fear. They have absolutely no gun knowledge, nor do they have any gun law knowledge. It's hilarious to see these debates anywhere. In person. On forums. The amount of ignorance out there is comical.
I often post this video, and I'm going to post it again.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db-2eHLEnno[/media]
People post all the time. "Why do you need this...why do you need that rifle." And always assume it is for defense. People fail to realize the hobby behind gun ownership. Some people feel like getting an AR-15 and loading it up with a bunch of useless shit. Why? Because they like it. To them they are collecting. They just want something cool to go out and shoot with.
Same applies to your PCs. Why do you need certain things in it? Because gaming is your hobby.
Or all of your Xbox 360s.
Or how about cars? People load their cars up with so much useless and stupid shit.
Same applies to any hobby. Anyone can ask you why, yet, the firearm hobby is always misunderstood by ignorant people who have absolutely no clue.
People always fail to properly understand. I have guns specifically for defense. I have guns I carry for work. I have guns I collect. I have guns I have just for something to shoot when I have the time.
Just because someone owns a gun. Does not mean it's automatically for self defense. There is no "Why do you need that..." the answer is simple. Because they can. If you do not like it...then why bother asking?
[QUOTE=Comrade General;22952710]I do. Really. Would you prefer to have a pistol that has lower stopping power than a shotgun that will almost always put him down even if it just bruises him via armor impact?[/QUOTE]
you know nothing about firearms
not trollin', just observing
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