10 officers take down 1 inmate to the floor, where he's cuffed and tasered. Inmate is later transfer - Polidicks

[QUOTE=J!NX;33889926]Wow Sure sounds like a place I'd love to live in. [sp]If you're reading this and don't understand the obvious sarcasm, leave forever[/sp][/QUOTE] "durr arizona is stupid and i hate it dont rate me dum or ur an idiot LOL" nah, shut the fuck up

The biggest problem I have is how the cops always say the person on the ground is "still being combative and resisting blah blah blah." I retort by saying it is human nature, hell it even goes down to basic animal instinct to protect and defend yourself when you're being attacked, regardless of who is doing it. In many of these brutality cases, the person may not even be fighting back, but protecting vital body areas, such as the head, neck, and face. It's obvious when you watch these videos that they're either doing that, or just completely limp.

From what I see they may have been a bit rough at the start but they wouldn't have used a taser if he wasn't resisting in any way, all this looks like to me is an unfortunate accident. It'd be even more clear what happened if it had audio.

phoenix police are always getting in trouble for shit like this we're one of the cities that just has a horribly authoritarian police force that feels it necessary to use all the force they can possibly use there was a story last year (i think) about phoenix police body slamming a 15 year old girl into a stucco wall, onto the pavement, 15 minutes from my house police way too often are somehow surprised that when 10 officers randomly grab and push around a citizen of the united states they kick and wiggle a bit, and respond by beating the shit out of them and tasering them.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;33891265]"durr arizona is stupid and i hate it dont rate me dum or ur an idiot LOL" nah, shut the fuck up[/QUOTE] I meant the prison, not Arizona. Arizona is fine. Chill the fuck down. I may have worded that post a little weird. EDIT: Yeah, I worded that in the worst way.

[QUOTE=J!NX;33891453]I meant the prison, not Arizona. Arizona is fine. Chill the fuck down. I may have worded that post a little weird.[/QUOTE] right, you're not covering your ass or anything after acting like a twat and then saying "hurr i was only pretending to be retarded" now we know that you're not interested in living in a prison, good stuff

[QUOTE=Kopimi;33891488]right, you're not covering your ass or anything after acting like a twat and then saying "hurr i was only pretending to be retarded" now we know that you're not interested in living in a prison, good stuff[/QUOTE] Except if you've read my past posting style you'd know it's a [B]fact [/B]that I would never diss a state because of one select issue and bash on people who would. And why are you so offended if someone did possibly make a joke about Arizona, are you really that over-sensitive.

[QUOTE=Jim_Riley;33891227]Yeah, to be honest, this doesn't even look like police brutality at all and looks like standard procedure. Until a thorough investigation is done regarding the actual cause of death, I don't believe this to be a case of police brutality. A tragic conclusion caused by...? What exactly? We don't know yet. Half of the "10" officers weren't even doing anything. You'd think that from the title they were going at the inmate like a bunch savages.[/QUOTE] People don't understand when you hear a code on the radio every available officer responds. When I call a code for a riot or fight 3/4 of the jail staff responds including a supervisor with a taser, OC, or whatever is needed. What happened to this man is odd, but it is very likely he was in poor health as it is and the whole fighting from the patrol car to the cell was to stressful on him. Usually when we get in uses of force we check the inmates blood pressure and medical gets to see him before put back in a cell. Most people believe once a person is hand-cuffed that it is over. However it isn't, I've had people try to headbutt me while in handcuffs. Do you know what happened to that person? He went back on the ground till he could clam down. What happened is sad and no matter his crime or what he did to officer he didn't deserve to die. We will have to wait for a proper medical report. A long time ago a person that came in to jail was hopped up on drugs and was fighting the entire time. When he got tased his heart gave out due to stress and he died. It was fucking terrible and a freak accident, but anything can happen.

[QUOTE=J!NX;33891516]Except if you've read my past posting style you'd know it's a [B]fact [/B]that I would never diss a state because of one select issue and bash on people who would. [B]And why are you so offended if someone did possibly make a joke about Arizona, are you really that over-sensitive.[/B][/QUOTE] if you made a joke about arkansas or washington or new york i would have bashed you as well its cute how now you're accusing me of being oversensitive when i always call people out on shitting on entire states maybe instead of calling me sensitive you should stop antagonizing and just be happy that you've successfully backpedaled out of the spotlight for your moronic comments

[QUOTE=Kopimi;33891602]if you made a joke about arkansas or washington or new york i would have bashed you as well its cute how now you're accusing me of being oversensitive when i always call people out on shitting on entire states maybe instead of calling me sensitive you should stop antagonizing and just be happy that you've successfully backpedaled out of the spotlight for your moronic comments[/QUOTE] who gives a fuck

[QUOTE=Kopimi;33891602]if you made a joke about arkansas or washington or new york i would have bashed you as well its cute how now you're accusing me of being oversensitive when i always call people out on shitting on entire states maybe instead of calling me sensitive you should stop antagonizing and just be happy that you've successfully backpedaled out of the spotlight for your moronic comments[/QUOTE] your oversensitive because you're crying about a typo and being a big baby about it, and not being being smart about it. Oh boo hoo so what if someone bashes a state, who gives a damn? your comment on my profile just proves that you're butthurt. Yeah lol that was real smart and witty of you. Great job being an almighty white knight.

The police have really been protecting and serving the shit out of everyone this year.

Is there a source where I can view the full video? Also, the audio will be a [B]key[/B] in this investigation.

[QUOTE=areolop;33891651]Is there a source where I can view the full video? Also, the audio will be a [B]key[/B] in this investigation.[/QUOTE] why is audio the key? i figure even if the guy was screaming and shouting it's no reason to lay him out like that :v:

[QUOTE=Kopimi;33891660]why is audio the key? i figure even if the guy was screaming and shouting it's no reason to lay him out like that :v:[/QUOTE] Depending on what he says can warrant the actions taken. (Or all the video so that we see all of it, not just the news story)

[QUOTE=areolop;33891679]Depending on what he says can warrant the actions taken. (Or all the video so that we see all of it, not just the news story)[/QUOTE] if he called them all pigfuckers and insulted their mothers it still wouldn't warrant any of this if you're so sensitive that you'll manhandle and taser someone to death because he called you a name you shouldn't be a cop

ok so I just watched the video why do they need that many people on one person, I mean seriously, one cop would be far more enough to put him in the cell... [QUOTE=Kopimi;33891714]if he called them all pigfuckers and insulted their mothers it still wouldn't warrant any of this if you're so sensitive that you'll manhandle and taser someone to death because he called you a name you shouldn't be a cop[/QUOTE] Honest I couldn't think of anything more childish than having so many cops to back you up but still reacting like that seriously, the guy couldn't have [B]possibly [/B]done anything harmful, if you can't realize this, you shouldn't be a cop. It's like feeling vulnerable even though you are surrounded by heavily trained and armed men and they're 100% on your si-, wait, that's exactly what it is.

[img]http://i.azcentral.com/i/sized/C/D/C/e298/j350/PHP4EED055E37CDC.jpg[/img] we've lost an angel tonight at about 2:15 in the video he's got his back to the wall and he's entirely calm and out of nowhere they grab him and start shoving him around seriously i do not want to get arrested in this state [QUOTE=J!NX;33891722]ok so I just watched the video why do they need that many people on one person, I mean seriously, one cop would be far more enough to put him in the cell... Honest I couldn't think of anything more childish than having so many cops to back you up but still reacting like that seriously, the guy couldn't have [B]possibly [/B]done anything harmful, if you can't realize this, you shouldn't be a cop.[/QUOTE] because cops today work in gangs and cant accomplish anything without 2 cans of bear mace, a taser and 4 deputies with .45's just in case

[QUOTE=Kopimi;33891775][img]http://i.azcentral.com/i/sized/C/D/C/e298/j350/PHP4EED055E37CDC.jpg[/img] we've lost an angel tonight at about 2:15 in the video he's got his back to the wall and he's entirely calm and out of nowhere they grab him and start shoving him around seriously i do not want to get arrested in this state because cops today work in gangs and cant accomplish anything without 2 cans of bear mace, a taser and 4 deputies with .45's just in case[/QUOTE] I wouldn't call him an angel but... looks like an honest guy at least. Also, am I bad because that sudden picture made me laugh a little when I saw it in the video? I seems like it's either the only they could get or to make the cops look worse, that's not to say I'm on the prisoners side 100% though.

I saw Arizona-city and Police... Yup already know where this is going.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;33891775][img]http://i.azcentral.com/i/sized/C/D/C/e298/j350/PHP4EED055E37CDC.jpg[/img] we've lost an angel tonight at about 2:15 in the video he's got his back to the wall and he's entirely calm and out of nowhere they grab him and start shoving him around seriously i do not want to get arrested in this state because cops today work in gangs and cant accomplish anything without 2 cans of bear mace, a taser and 4 deputies with .45's just in case[/QUOTE] Because it is about safety and a show of force. You think criminals play fair? Nope, and if you think a cop should be the lone-gun (or w/e) then you're living in fantasy land. Also fun fact, weapons are not allowed in correctional facilities (jails or prisons). The only weapons that are allowed are tasers and mace. Its easy to sit and come up with stuff like some of you do, none of you have seen what a true criminal or people can do. I've seen one person commit the most destruction ever. People wonder why cops/jailers work in numbers. When i worked for a jail a inmate escaped from cell, he wasn't wanting to escape. He wanted to kill, he actually stocked and hunted guards who where alone. He stabbed one of them and hurt a few others. Once they found is location it took 4-6 officers to take him down. Its always easy to say "well what if, or this is what should have been done" if you're not in the situation. This isn't a video game, but what do we know, facepunch is backseat police officers and masters of the universe, right.

What the fuck is with the police brutality in America? I know someone is going to go "hurr durr only report about bad cops" etc, but you simply don't hear about this shit happening in places like Britain, not to the extent where there's a new police brutality story every day.

[QUOTE=MR-X;33891879]Because it is about safety and a show of force. You think criminals play fair? Nope, and if you think a cop should be the lone-gun (or w/e) then you're living in fantasy lands. Also fun fact, weapons are not allowed in correctional facilities (jails or prisons). The only weapons that are allowed are tasers and mace.[/QUOTE] you're right, how could i be so stupid as to think that maybe this man (who was unarmed and in jail) [B]was unarmed[/B] thanks for showing me the light, now that i know that criminals dont play fair, i see why they had to kill this guy after shoving him around for a while really, "show of force"? thats your defense for 10 cops abusing a prisoner until he was braindead? yeah i suppose if you're a brute that operates on nothing but testosterone, "show of force" might be a decent explanation for excessive force, but if you're someone who believes prisoners should be treated like humans and not shoved and grabbed without any reason or provocation, it sounds pretty stupid

[QUOTE=Jasun;33891911]What the fuck is with the police brutality in America? I know someone is going to go "hurr durr only report about bad cops" etc, but you simply don't hear about this shit happening in places like Britain, not to the extent where there's a new police brutality story every day.[/QUOTE] Guess you didn't catch the whole story about riots and all that. That was mostly fueled by police brutality. Forgot about that huh? Does not matter if he was unarmed, fighting is fighting. For all you know only 2-4 officer where actually involved in the use of force and the rest where just responders for back up because they heard a call. Do you honestly believe 10 people where on top of this man while he was being tased? Use you're head and have a little bit of imagination and think for a second. 10 full grown men on top of one guy? Really? I some how doubt that. Actually I used verbal judo (aka social skills) to disarm and deal with people. Force was a last resort for me. Yes prisoners have certain rights, but have you ever been in a jail or prison? If not then be quiet, you have no clue as to how these people act and push the envelope on everything. You know what guards go though? where i'm from it is state law 48 inmates to 1 guard. So you wonder why when someone calls for backup people respond? It is even worse in a state prison. Get all mad and hissy if you want, but there is way more to this. Guess what, if it is truly the officers fault and someone got carried away then they should be charged a such. I'm not saying "give them a get of of jail free card" I'm just saying stop jumping to conclusions. But then again this is a sensationalist article. It is easier to hate and talk shit about something or someone then to properly understand it huh. Imagine in every criminal case someone got a hold of one piece of the puzzle and jumped to a conclusion and convicted on that alone. The prison system would be overloaded more then it already is.

[QUOTE=MR-X;33891931]Guess you didn't catch the whole story about riots and all that. That was mostly fueled by police brutality. Forgot about that huh?[/QUOTE] i think he's talking more about the fact that in individual cases there are tons of incidents where american police officers that are under no threat exercise excessive force and end up severely damaging or abusing a citizen/prisoner, whereas stories like these are hard to come by in other nations

[QUOTE=MR-X;33891931]Guess you didn't catch the whole story about riots and all that. That was mostly fueled by police brutality. Forgot about that huh?[/QUOTE] Actually the riots were because we had a bunch of bored, uneducated chavs deciding to go get some free shit. The "police brutality" is when they shot a suspect, whom fired at the police. Even if that was a case of police brutality, that happened all the way back in the summer.

[QUOTE=Jasun;33891911]What the fuck is with the police brutality in America? I know someone is going to go "hurr durr only report about bad cops" etc, but you simply don't hear about this shit happening in places like Britain, not to the extent where there's a new police brutality story every day.[/QUOTE] Isn't it a lot easier to become a cop in the US, than for example britain or other european countries? Here in Norway, you need at least 3 or 4 years(pluss all the physical and mental tests).

[QUOTE=Thaard;33892019]Isn't it a lot easier to become a cop in the US, than for example britain or other european countries? Here in Norway, you need at least 3 or 4 years(pluss all the physical and mental tests).[/QUOTE] Depends on the state, most police now require college education. At least a year, then you go though the academy which takes a year or less. Then you become a recruit/probationary cop (AKA on the job training) then after a certain period of time you become full fledged cop. So in reality it takes a while. You go though a series of interviews, written and verbal interviews and write ups, more interviews with a board, then they ask questions about you while you're on camera to study and gauge your reactions, you go though a physical and drug test, then a polygraph test and psyc-eval. And yet again kopimi proves he is ignorant, instead of coming up with a counter-argument he wants to rate everyone dumb.

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[QUOTE=Psycho_Shadow;33891223]because if you're in prison you're a horrible person and deserve to die[/QUOTE] Yes.