Due to success , Warner Bros. and Legendary begin work on 'Godzilla 2' - Polidicks

[sp]Anyone catch the Mothra reference when they return to their home in Japan? Ford has a moth tank with a sign on it saying MOTHRA[/sp]

If this means Kaiju are making a comeback then there is hope for my country yet.

I'm too late into this thread to matte rbut I have two points [sp]The mutos kissing was kawaii as fuck[/sp] and [sp] Flex Ironstag should have died with the nuke would have made it way more emotional[/sp]

what disappointed me was godzilla got such little screen time i could care less about ford

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;44854200]what disappointed me was godzilla got such little screen time i could care less about ford[/QUOTE] [quote=Gareth Edwards interview]Q: Just after "Godzilla" started screening for critics, one of the few grumbles that everyone heard was that there wasn't enough Godzilla in this "Godzilla" — I assume you heard these complaints.? A: Yeah. I think whatever you do, however you approach a film with history like this, you can't please everyone. All you can do is please yourself, and I grew up in the era before digital effects, when you couldn't show everything all the time, so a filmmaker hid their big creatures a while. "Jaws," "Alien," the aliens in "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" — those are masterpieces and the reason I got into filmmaking. I'm 38. That's the blueprint for me. You're given an opportunity to do a film (like "Godzilla"), and from the very beginning you have to be thinking of "Jaws." And there was no conflict with the studio over showing more Godzilla. Q: Did you expect some? A: As a layman looking outside in, I guess I would expect pushback, yeah. But what's interesting, at least in terms of Warner and Legendary (the production company), making something different is what gives the film its value to them. They actually encouraged risks. I was never asked, "At what time do we finally see the monster?" Frankly, I was more afraid of throwing everything at the screen. Because audiences get CGI fatigue, and they can get bored. When I did "Monsters," I heard similar criticism, that there weren't enough monsters. I got annoyed to the point of watching "Jaws" with a stopwatch. The first time you see the shark is an hour in, and it's a fin. There's actually less than six minutes of shark in "Jaws," and that's one of the greatest movies ever made. It's also an important lesson for the digital age: It's so easy to be seduced by technology that you forget your job is to keep an audience hooked on a good story. That approach is not for everybody. But I don't know: With all the summer blockbusters we get, I just wanted this one to be different.[/quote] [url]http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-05-15/entertainment/ct-godzilla-edwards-20140515_1_godzilla-gareth-edwards-max-borenstein[/url]

[QUOTE=jaykray;44854244][URL]http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-05-15/entertainment/ct-godzilla-edwards-20140515_1_godzilla-gareth-edwards-max-borenstein[/URL][/QUOTE] all of those movies were horror creature movies though where its scarier to not show the creature because it creates the suspense of them hunting you and not knowing where they are, it creates mystery godzilla is a giant monster film where they are in plain sight of everyone

[QUOTE=Warriorx4;44850750]Problem with that is the original Godzilla is a reflection of the trauma of Japan being nuked twice. This flick has none of that subtext, coupled with okay acting and okay writing the human interactions in this film were just bland and weak. I mean holy FUCK Watanabe was pretty much 50% of the reason I went and all he does is spout bullshit the whole time in a whispery voice.[/QUOTE] Except for the direct reference to Japan being nuked made by Watanabe about 2/3rds of the way through the film. [editline]19th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Fire Kracker;44854200]what disappointed me was godzilla got such little screen time i could care less about ford[/QUOTE] He got about as much screen time as did all the other Godzilla movies. Godzilla is the plot device, not the star, of the film.

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;44854640]all of those movies were horror creature movies though where its scarier to not show the creature because it creates the suspense of them hunting you and not knowing where they are, it creates mystery godzilla is a giant monster film where they are in plain sight of everyone[/QUOTE] And yet they did the exact same thing in the original, which was a [I]horror film.[/I]

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;44854640] godzilla is a giant monster film where they are in plain sight of everyone[/QUOTE] Gojira was, again as I restate, an anti-nuclear film. In the original Japanese version, scenes contain: - Hospitals holding the mutilated bodies of survivors - People's limbs sticking out of rubble - Orphaned children bawling as their dying parents are removed from the room - A scene where a mother holds her 2 kids as fire closes in around them, saying "Don't worry, we'll be with your father soon."

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;44854640]all of those movies were horror creature movies though where its scarier to not show the creature because it creates the suspense of them hunting you and not knowing where they are, it creates mystery godzilla is a giant monster film where they are in plain sight of everyone[/QUOTE] Close Encounters of the Third Kind is not a horror movie, you don't seem to understand what he was saying. It was already explained too.

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;44854640]all of those movies were horror creature movies though where its scarier to not show the creature because it creates the suspense of them hunting you and not knowing where they are, it creates mystery godzilla is a giant monster film where they are in plain sight of everyone[/QUOTE] [i]"Hi, and welcome to "Missing the point." I'm your host Fire Kracker. Lets begin."[/i]

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;44855948]Gojira was, again as I restate, an anti-nuclear film. In the original Japanese version, scenes contain: - Hospitals holding the mutilated bodies of survivors - People's limbs sticking out of rubble - Orphaned children bawling as their dying parents are removed from the room - A scene where a mother holds her 2 kids as fire closes in around them, saying "Don't worry, we'll be with your father soon."[/QUOTE] this movie needed to more like that fuck that's just fucking dark.

[QUOTE=darunner;44855176]Except for the direct reference to Japan being nuked made by Watanabe about 2/3rds of the way through the film. [/QUOTE] Subtext.

[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;44856967]this movie needed to more like that fuck that's just fucking dark.[/QUOTE] I agree. [sp]The Tsunami scene was good[/sp] but there could have been more gruesome scenes. [sp]Basically nobody died on-screen.[/sp]

[QUOTE=The Combine;44857019] [sp]Basically nobody died on-screen.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]So those fuckers that got washed over by the tsunami, stomped on by the Mutos or fell to their deaths are nobody?[/sp]

[QUOTE=Zuimzado;44857666][sp]So those fuckers that got washed over by the tsunami, stomped on by the Mutos or fell to their deaths are nobody?[/sp][/QUOTE] Yes, because they're not named characters in the film.

[QUOTE=Zuimzado;44857666][sp]So those fuckers that got washed over by the tsunami, stomped on by the Mutos or fell to their deaths are nobody?[/sp][/QUOTE] These moments were cool but brief and undetailed. Would have loved to see more of that.

[QUOTE=The Combine;44858190]These moments were cool but brief and undetailed. Would have loved to see more of that.[/QUOTE] It's a 12A, remember?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;44858158]Yes, because they're not named characters in the film.[/QUOTE] You mooonster. They had families. Spit in their graves, will you, [I]spit in their graves![/I]

I saw the movie high as FUCK. Although, even as I was high, I definitely was critical of a few things. The military slamming Godzilla with ar-15's what-have-you, was dumb. It's obviously not doing shit. There was too much aspect on the military and less of, y'know: GODZILLA. Was still a great movie and I'm glad I saw it.

[QUOTE=MrEndangered;44845511]As mediocre as it may be, it was much more deserving of praise than... that OTHER movie.[/QUOTE] As someone that doesn't watch a lot of recent hollywood movies, what movie would that be?

[QUOTE=Warriorx4;44856995]Subtext.[/QUOTE] "I refuse to acknowledge their acknowledgement unless it's made in a way I approve of." [editline]20th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Bonde;44859100]As someone that doesn't watch a lot of recent hollywood movies, what movie would that be?[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;vtzSP8VjkcE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtzSP8VjkcE[/video]

[QUOTE=Dub!;44859003]I saw the movie high as FUCK. Although, even as I was high, I definitely was critical of a few things. The military slamming Godzilla with ar-15's what-have-you, was dumb. It's obviously not doing shit. There was too much aspect on the military and less of, y'know: GODZILLA. Was still a great movie and I'm glad I saw it.[/QUOTE] I mean honestly if all I had was a gun and Gojira came fucking around with everything in town I'd probably try shooting him once to see if it did anything. [sp]Isn't that what those soldiers on the roof did anyways? They shoot him for like 10 seconds and realize it does jack shit, and it seemed like the rounds from the abrams tanks on the bridge scene actually fucked with Gojira a little bit. I don't know, I thought the build up to the real monster fight in the climax was fucking awesome. I especially enjoyed how Ford was the one to see the babies forming on the mother MUTO after it almost spotted him on the train tracks, it made a lot of sense how he knew exactly what to do when he found the cave with the nuke and the babies. Burned those bitches to hell. I'm still not over the scene where Godzilla falls under the building and the look that was shared between Ford to Godzilla, it was an amazing moment. I also loved the scene with the mother MUTO leaning in towards Ford; Ford takes out his pistol and that momentary look where he's like "Holy shit did I actually hurt it somehow"? Before Godzilla fucks up the last MUTO in a godly way. I had a fear they had completely taken out the Atomic breath power from the movie before I saw his tail light up.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Dub!;44859003]I saw the movie high as FUCK. Although, even as I was high, I definitely was critical of a few things. The military slamming Godzilla with ar-15's what-have-you, was dumb. It's obviously not doing shit. There was too much aspect on the military and less of, y'know: GODZILLA. Was still a great movie and I'm glad I saw it.[/QUOTE] I blame the fact that this movie was backed by the pentagon. They won't approve of any movie scene featuring the military unless it shows "typical military values such as honor and bravery", which always translates to "red shirt military grunts shooting every bullet they have at stuff that won't give a dead rat's ass about a bunch of tiny bullets plinking against it". (Source: Every fucking Transformers movie made by Michael Bay.)

[QUOTE=darunner;44859359]"I refuse to acknowledge their acknowledgement unless it's made in a way I approve of." [/QUOTE] Acknowledgement of Hiroshima is nowhere near the same as showing scenes of a hospital of burned victims, mothers holding onto their children saying "we'll be with your father soon", and other such images from the original Godzilla.

Fun fact: A particular man praised the shit out of the movie. [quote]If you don't think I'm trustworthy enough to vouch for Godzilla being treated right, let me end this with a little anecdote from the after party. I ended up talking with producer Thomas Tull and while I was thanking him for helping me out with the tickets a Japanese man came up and Tull immediately looked nervous. “So, what did you think?” The man answered that he and his colleagues were amazed with the movie and couldn't believe how perfectly Godzilla was captured. “This is the Godzilla from my childhood.” He said this with a hand over his heart, I swear to God. Tull looked taken aback, both relieved and amazed at the same time. After the man left, Tull leaned over to me and said, [B]“He's the head of Toho.”[/B][/quote] From [url=http://www.aintitcool.com/node/67271]this review[/url].

[QUOTE=Taggart;44860692]Fun fact: A particular man praised the shit out of the movie. From [url=http://www.aintitcool.com/node/67271]this review[/url].[/QUOTE] All other critics can shut up now :v:

[QUOTE=Warriorx4;44860528]Acknowledgement of Hiroshima is nowhere near the same as showing scenes of a hospital of burned victims, mothers holding onto their children saying "we'll be with your father soon", and other such images from the original Godzilla.[/QUOTE] Which happened in exactly one movie. Out of 30 films in 60 years. It's not a common event in the franchise.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;44846222]The issue with the movie is that it focused far too much on the human side, and worse yet the majority of the human side carried no weight. Seriously, Aaron Taylor-Johnson had zero presence, half the time he blends in to the scenery. And the others like Watanabe were good in their roles but were underutilized. At least 65% of Ken Watanabe's lines were "Let them fight. Rules of nature." If the human side were better used, having such a focus on them wouldn't have been an issue, but because it was poor, it drags down the movie over all. All the scenes directly involving the monsters were great, the movie was absolutely gorgeous, and overall it was enjoyable. Just the weak human aspect is what lets it down.[/QUOTE] As a lot of big Godzilla fans have pointed out, the human side IS ALWAYS the focus of Godzilla movies.

[QUOTE=darunner;44861985]Which happened in exactly one movie. Out of 30 films in 60 years. It's not a common event in the franchise.[/QUOTE] ...Yeah. I know. Emperor Scorpious said this film was more akin to the original Godzilla which was more about the people. That is wrong, this film does not have the symbolism of the original. Nowhere did I ever speak of the film series itself, just this latest addition and the first. And then you jumped in totally missing my point about subtext. That's that I guess.