• Texas judge William Adams under investigation after video aparently shows him beating disabled daugh
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[QUOTE=thisispain;33114371]and uh mine happens to agree with the scientific evidence that proves it is a horrible practice. i believe it should be outlawed.[/QUOTE] If I was not disciplined when I was younger I would not be half the man I am today; also studies show a correlation between disicipline and bad behavior. Anyone who has completed psych 101 can tell you correlation does not prove causation. Also you can't have scientifically proven opinions such as something is "horrible"
[QUOTE=imptastick;33114416]If I was not disciplined when I was younger I would not be half the man I am today[/QUOTE] right you'd probably be a better person who wasn't advocating child abuse on the internet. [QUOTE=imptastick;33114416]Anyone who has completed psych 101 can tell you correlation does not prove causation. Also you can't have scientifically proven opinions such as something is "horrible"[/QUOTE] anyone who has completed psych 101, which isn't a real class fyi, would have seen the evidence demonstrating that physical punishment is detrimental to a child's development. and yes you can have something be proven to be horrible. for instance, arsenic is proven to be horrible for your health just as physical abuse is proven to be horrible for a child.
[QUOTE=thisispain;33114447] and yes you can have something be proven to be horrible. for instance, arsenic is proven to be horrible for your health just as physical abuse is proven to be horrible for a child.[/QUOTE] and before he jumps all over you with personal experience arsenic doesn't [i]always[/i] kill you despite being regarded a fatal poison, just as hitting a kid won't [i]always[/i] make your kid turn out to be a serial killer, but either one is bad for you
[QUOTE=The golden;33114472]I actually did take a psychology course and they told me exactly what thisispain is saying.[/QUOTE] omg we probably took the same class! hi-5 [editline]3rd November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;33114485] arsenic doesn't [i]always[/i] kill you despite being regarded a fatal poison, just as hitting a kid won't [i]always[/i] make your kid turn out to be a serial killer, but either one is bad for you[/QUOTE] i ate arsenic and i was fine hurf durf
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;33113936]except that kids have always been rebellious disrespectful assholes[/QUOTE] Did you never stop to think that there may be a reason for that beyond it simply occurring?
[QUOTE=thisispain;33114447]right you'd probably be a better person who wasn't advocating child abuse on the internet. anyone who has completed psych 101, which isn't a real class fyi, would have seen the evidence demonstrating that physical punishment is detrimental to a child's development. and yes you can have something be proven to be horrible. for instance, arsenic is proven to be horrible for your health just as physical abuse is proven to be horrible for a child.[/QUOTE] Intro to Psych is assigned the CRN code psych 10101 on many campuses because the first two numbers show class difficulty it is often shortened in conversation to simply "101" Also you missed the point, horrible in terms of discipline is an opinion, not a testible fact. And there is a difference in a spanking and child abuse. This will be my last post tonight (I have class at 8am) but I will be happy to continue our discussion tomarrow. I wish you a good night and hope that in the future we may again debate on this and other topics.
Violent tendencies breed violent tendencies. A child experiencing physical pain, caused by the sole people who are only with them to protect them has terrible psychological effects. I experienced it thoroughly throughout a big part of my life and it didn't stop me from being a shitty person in general for pretty much my life until recently. I have family members who won't speak to each other because of 1 incident involving physical punishment, over a decade ago. While the specific situation I've experienced isn't all that common, but I can never understand condoning physical abuse on children. I don't think spanking makes someone a monster, but it's been made evident to me what a slippery slope physical punishment is, along with the fact that even small amounts of it has highly documented negative effects. Talk to almost any one you know about the subject, look at the massive quantities of scientific study done into the effects of this and if you still feel this way about your opinion you're just stubborn.
[QUOTE=imptastick;33114528] Also you missed the point, horrible in terms of discipline is an opinion, not a testible fact. [/QUOTE] no it's definitely a "testible" fact considering they studied the effects of physical punishment and understood what it does to a child. and no there's no difference between spanking and child abuse because spanking is child abuse. don't continue our discussion, go educate yourself on child abuse.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;33114522][URL="http://www.kristv.com/news/district-attorney-says-no-charges-to-be-filed-against-judge-adams/"]No charges to be filed[/URL] [url=http://www.mediaite.com/tv/anderson-cooper-interviews-daughter-of-texas-judge-caught-beating-her-on-tape/]Interview with Hilary[/url][/QUOTE]
I've had worse as a kid, also I think she's full of shit and the letter she wrote just proves it to me. "He brainwashed my poor mom into yelling at me, how awful, they both know I have a disease that makes it so I want to illegally steal things!" Like holy shit, I think he went over the line and took it way to far, but she deserves to be swatted with a belt, she really didn't help herself that he apparently warned her not to do it beforehand, AND she kept disobeying him when he was yelling at her to bend over the bed. Sorry, as I said I went through this before, and worse, I don't sympathize at all.
[QUOTE=Sift;33114680] AND she kept disobeying him when he was yelling at her to bend over the bed.[/QUOTE] MY GOD ReallY!?
[QUOTE=Bones85;33099424]This isn't a valid reason to justify/support hitting your child. Consider yourself lucky that supposedly you've had no negative effects as a result of being hit.[/QUOTE] well considering your generation is the first to not get whipped as punishment I'd say it's a little bit more than anecdotal
So why did she wait 7 years to reveal this video?
[QUOTE=Sift;33114680]I've had worse as a kid, also I think she's full of shit and the letter she wrote just proves it to me. "He brainwashed my poor mom into yelling at me, how awful, they both know I have a disease that makes it so I want to illegally steal things!" Like holy shit, I think he went over the line and took it way to far, but she deserves to be swatted with a belt, she really didn't help herself that he apparently warned her not to do it beforehand, AND she kept disobeying him when he was yelling at her to bend over the bed. Sorry, as I said I went through this before, and worse, I don't sympathize at all.[/QUOTE] If you're a parent, you have no right to hit your child, regardless of whether or not you 'warned them' not to do something. You're supposed to love them unconditionally, so show them some god damn decency. [editline]3rd November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ButtsexV3;33114709]well considering your generation is the first to not get whipped as punishment I'd say it's a little bit more than anecdotal[/QUOTE] Yes, because only when kids get whipped do they understand right and wrong!
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;33114712]So why did she wait 7 years to reveal this video?[/QUOTE] She snapped and was tired of his abuse
[QUOTE=krazipanda;33113948]why does it matter that she has any mental condition. that should not affect in any way what he has done, what it was was horrible enough to stand on it's own.[/QUOTE]Cerebral palsy isn't so much a mental condition as it is a physical condition of the brain, if that makes any sense. A mental condition would be caused by a chemical imbalance, not by a physical deformity that happens to affect motor skills and the like [editline]4th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;33114712]So why did she wait 7 years to reveal this video?[/QUOTE]probably held onto it as blackmail or waited until she turned 18 so she'd be out of the house when it was happening
[QUOTE=Sift;33114680]they both know I have a disease that makes it so I want to illegally steal things!" [/QUOTE] what? this makes no sense whatsoever. where is it said anywhere that she stole anything? Also how do you legally steal something?
[QUOTE=Sift;33114680]I don't sympathize at all.[/QUOTE] that's because you have severe mental problems I have a hard time expressing sympathy but even I'm able to watch a video where someone is getting the shit beat out of them and think "holy shit that's definitely not right whatsoever"
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33114715]If you're a parent, you have no right to hit your child, regardless of whether or not you 'warned them' not to do something. You're supposed to love them unconditionally, so show them some god damn decency. [editline]3rd November 2011[/editline] Yes, because only when kids get whipped do they understand right and wrong![/QUOTE] "Stop downloading illegal shit on my computer or I will hit you with a belt." -does it anyway and keeps doing it- -gets hit with a belt- "ITS NOT MY FAULT (OR MY MOMS) I JUST HAVE A CONDITION THAT MAKES ME ILLEGALLY DOWNLOAD THINGS. THIS IS ALL HIS FAULT THERE WAS NO WARNING". As I said, he hit her WAY to many fucking times, and I'm not saying it's not abuse, but ignoring the rules, the warnings, and keep fucking up you're not just going to say "Oh you rascal!" and love them, there needs to be some sort of structure. If anything a swat or two then taking away computer rights would of been enough. My dad used to grab me by the neck throw me out of a chair and beat the shit out of me with his fists when I fucked up so, can't really sympathize with someone ignoring a threat and just not doing anything. This guy was way easier on her then my family was with me v:v:v
[QUOTE=Sift;33114779] My dad used to grab me by the neck throw me out of a chair and beat the shit out of me with his fists when I fucked up[/QUOTE] holy shit where were the cops
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33114772]that's because you have severe mental problems I have a hard time expressing sympathy but even I'm able to watch a video where someone is getting the shit beat out of them and think "holy shit that's definitely not right whatsoever"[/QUOTE]Great job reading what I said, guess you're a moron. I said I think he went over the line and hit her far to many times, but getting swatted I don't really care about bro. [editline]4th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;33114787]holy shit where were the cops[/QUOTE]He was friends with most of them and they'd come over 3-4 times every few months, he was kind of a raging drunk and the cops never did a damn thing about it. They'd gather the stories from me and my mom, go ask him "Nah they're just blowin it out of the water" then they'd go get a drink together. [QUOTE=Lambeth;33114742]what? this makes no sense whatsoever. where is it said anywhere that she stole anything? Also how do you legally steal something?[/QUOTE] One of the videos I saw had a letter written by her in the description saying her disease made her facinated with technology and that she just had to download stuff that isn't obtainable legally to her.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;33114709]well considering your generation is the first to not get whipped as punishment I'd say it's a little bit more than anecdotal[/QUOTE] that's not true at all. [editline]3rd November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Sift;33114779]"Stop downloading illegal shit on my computer or I will hit you with a belt." -does it anyway and keeps doing it- -gets hit with a belt- "ITS NOT MY FAULT (OR MY MOMS) I JUST HAVE A CONDITION THAT MAKES ME ILLEGALLY DOWNLOAD THINGS. THIS IS ALL HIS FAULT THERE WAS NO WARNING".[/QUOTE] that's not even the fucking story. if you respond to your child's downloading by hitting them with your belt you are retarded.
[QUOTE=Sift;33114680] AND she kept disobeying him when he was yelling at her to bend over the bed. [/QUOTE] Yes because after all the whippings previously she would obey and bend over to receive ANOTHER whipping.
[QUOTE=African DVDS;33114832]Yes because after all the whippings previously she would obey and bend over to receive ANOTHER whipping.[/QUOTE] Stand up and keep getting whipped till you listen, or bend over and get whipped a couple times and have it be done with. Yeah she'd still get hit but it would of been over sooner. It's something I learned growing up with the same situation.
[QUOTE=Sift;33114790] He was friends with most of them and they'd come over 3-4 times every few months, he was kind of a raging drunk and the cops never did a damn thing about it. They'd gather the stories from me and my mom, go ask him "Nah they're just blowin it out of the water" then they'd go get a drink together. [/QUOTE] It isn't too late to file complaints against anyone from that time who is still working today
[QUOTE=Sift;33114790] One of the videos I saw had a letter written by her in the description saying her disease made her facinated with technology and that she just had to download stuff that isn't obtainable legally to her.[/QUOTE] yeah you're a retard if you beat your kids for that. i mean beating your kids itself is utterly deplorable but you could say "he just doesn't know any better". if you beat your kids for that you are a total retard.
[QUOTE=Sift;33114841]Stand up and keep getting whipped till you listen, or bend over and get whipped a couple times and have it be done with. Yeah she'd still get hit but it would of been over sooner. It's something I learned growing up with the same situation.[/QUOTE] No child should have to learn the correct way to submit to a raging drunk
[QUOTE=thisispain;33114807] that's not even the fucking story. if you respond to your child's downloading by hitting them with your belt you are retarded.[/QUOTE] It is haha did you even listen to what he says, he flat out says that he warned her this would happen if she kept disobeying and her letter she herself wrote is all that's needed. Here let me dig it up. She has had ataxic cerebral palsy from birth that led her to a passion for technology, [b]which was strictly forbidden by her father's backwards views. The judge's wife was emotionally abused herself and was severely manipulated into assisting the beating and should not be blamed for any content in this video.[/b] The judge's wife has since left the marriage due to the abuse, which continues to this day, and has sincerely apologized and repented for her part and for allowing such a thing, long before this video was even revealed to exist. Judge William Adams is not fit to be anywhere near the law system if he can't even exercise fit judgement as a parent himself. Do not allow this man to ever be re-elected again. His "judgement" is a giant farce. Signed, Hillary Adams, his daughter. Please note how she uses her acclaimed disease as a excuse for technology, and how she says that her mom is BRAINWASHED into helping him. That's utter nonsense, she's a human and can make her own choices, she chose to continue yelling at her as well and should be held responsible as well. "A Texas Judge, Judge William Adams took a belt to his own teenage daughter as [b]punishment for using the internet to acquire music and games that were unavailable for legal purchase at the time.[/b]" Speaks for itself. When I have kids, I will never wail on them and beat the living fuck out of them like this man has done to his daughter, but I will spank my child if they fuck up and do something serious.
[QUOTE=Sift;33114879]she says that her mom is BRAINWASHED into helping him. That's utter nonsense, she's a human and can make her own choices[/QUOTE] you are so uneducated on abuse it isn't even funny
[QUOTE=Sift;33114879] Please note how she uses her acclaimed disease as a excuse for technology, and how she says that her mom is BRAINWASHED into helping him. That's utter nonsense, she's a human and can make her own choices, she chose to continue yelling at her as well and should be held responsible as well. [/QUOTE] she's not using it as an excuse, it just demonstrates how retarded this guy actually was. and defending it on the internet is retarded as well
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