Texas judge William Adams under investigation after video aparently shows him beating disabled daugh
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[QUOTE=Sift;33114879]
"A Texas Judge, Judge William Adams took a belt to his own teenage daughter as [b]punishment for using the internet to acquire music and games that were unavailable for legal purchase at the time.[/b]"
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That isn't stealing
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33114892]you are so uneducated on abuse it isn't even funny[/QUOTE]
The real joke is how you think it works. In my relationship with my dad he'd yell and try to get my mom in on it to, she's a weak and frail woman who can't support herself and has rather nasty leg problems, she didn't submit to him once and helped support me through his abuse though we couldn't get away due to money issues. I'm sorry but you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and I'd appreciate if you didn't comment on shit you haven't expierenced first hand.
[QUOTE=Sift;33114920]The real joke is how you think it works. In my relationship with my dad he'd yell and try to get my mom in on it to, she's a weak and frail woman who can't support herself and has rather nasty leg problems, she didn't submit to him once and helped support me through his abuse though we couldn't get away due to money issues. I'm sorry but you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and I'd appreciate if you didn't comment on shit you haven't expierenced first hand.[/QUOTE]
stop using your retarded anecdotes as evidence for anything
[QUOTE=Sift;33114920]The real joke is how you think it works. In my relationship with my dad he'd yell and try to get my mom in on it to, she's a weak and frail woman who can't support herself and has rather nasty leg problems, she didn't submit to him once and helped support me through his abuse though we couldn't get away due to money issues. I'm sorry but you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and I'd appreciate if you didn't comment on shit you haven't expierenced first hand.[/QUOTE]
so why are you defending this?
[QUOTE=Sift;33114920]The real joke is how you think it works. In my relationship with my dad he'd yell and try to get my mom in on it to, she's a weak and frail woman who can't support herself and has rather nasty leg problems, she didn't submit to him once and helped support me through his abuse though we couldn't get away due to money issues. I'm sorry but you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and I'd appreciate if you didn't comment on shit you haven't expierenced first hand.[/QUOTE]
Somehow just somehow I think psychological tests are more accurate than a personal appeal but I can't put my finger on it.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33114927]stop using your retarded anecdotes as evidence for anything[/QUOTE]
Stop giving unsupported claims and pretending you know shit.
Sorry bro but really you're reading a story on the internet and pretending you know how it works at all times, when someone says they've had a similar expierence you have the gal to say they're wrong and keep on going. You're being a goddamn child.
I think the guy went over the top, I think the reasons for his punishment is absolutely retarded, I think the guy is scum just like I think my own father is scum, but saying that all blame is on him when her mom joins in is stupid and you're a idiot if you think you can understand everything from a few paragraphs on the internet written in a biased tone against him.
[QUOTE=Sift;33114946]Stop giving unsupported claims and pretending you know shit.[/QUOTE]
Which claims would you like to see some citations for?
I already posted professional opinions on corporal punishment against children (they said don't), so read back for that
As for spousal abuse being a form of "brainwashing" (as the girl said) this is also extensively documented so you can google it if you want, or I can
[QUOTE=thisispain;33114939]so why are you defending this?[/QUOTE]I'm not. That's kind of the point, I think the guys in the wrong for the most part, but I'm saying she really didn't help herself and it annoys me that she's trying to paint everything as his fault and let her mom slide by when she had a part in it as well.
[QUOTE=Sift;33114946]saying that all blame is on him when her mom joins in is stupid and you're a idiot if you think you can understand everything from a few paragraphs on the internet written in a biased tone against him.[/QUOTE]
[quote]she deserves to be swatted with a belt, she really didn't help herself that he apparently warned her not to do it beforehand, AND she kept disobeying him when he was yelling at her to bend over the bed.
Sorry, as I said I went through this before, and worse, I don't sympathize at all. [/quote]
i don't even know what you are trying to say
[QUOTE=Sift;33114953]I'm not. That's kind of the point, I think the guys in the wrong for the most part, but I'm saying she really didn't help herself and it annoys me that she's trying to paint everything as his fault and let her mom slide by when she had a part in it as well.[/QUOTE]
she's not letting her mom slide, her mom said sorry and they reconciled.
"HEY GUYS DON'T SAY SHIT UNLESS YOU KNOW THE WHOLE STORY MKAY"
[QUOTE=thisispain;33114960]i don't even know what you are trying to say[/QUOTE]
Then you're a lost cause. Let me try to break it down, the guy is a asshole, he has backward methods and he shouldn't of laid into her like he did. He's a asshole and a monster.
BUT. He warned her, he said if she did it again he'd swat her. She ignored the warning then got punishment as promised.
1: This could of been avoided if she had listened to him, as backward as it is, at the time she lived with him, it was his rules, she knew the risks and did it on her own.
When he's hitting her he's yelling at her to bend over, he even yells at her before he begins to bend over, she ignores him and chooses to keep screaming and protesting.
2: She could of bent over and taken her swattings and had it probably over faster, she wouldn't of been hit as much [i]I'm assuming. I'm putting this in italics so you take note that I'm not even sure. I'm just talking from personal happenings[/i]
Those two things didn't help her and caused it in the first place, he overreacted, he hit her far to many times, and it's for a stupid goddamn reason all agreed on, but when you're kid ignores you're rules and continues to break them, punishment is required. As I stated before a single swatting and removal of the computer or whatever would of been enough in my honest opinion.
Sift if you're still interested in learning about how and why people in abusive situations often don't stand up for themselves, a good starting point would be to familiarize yourself with the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_abuse]cycle of abuse[/url] and [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battered_person_syndrome]battered person syndrome[/url]
Sift: When it comes to abuse, just bend over and take it.
[QUOTE=The golden;33114971]A 16 year old girl with cerebral palsy downloads a song or two and gets the everloving shit beaten out of her while screaming and crying for her father to stop and yet somehow it's partly her fault.
What are you on[/QUOTE]
Back in my first grade, I lost a book my teacher owned and she gave me a sadface sticker till I could find it and bring it back. I couldn't find it and my dad decided to drag me to the basement crying and swat me every day I had that sticker. I probably screamed and cried louder then she did so uh, yeah I don't really see it on the same grounds as you bro.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;33115035]Sift: When it comes to abuse, just bend over and take it.[/QUOTE]
interestingly, that attitude is a common result of being abused
[QUOTE=Lambeth;33115035]Sift: When it comes to abuse, just bend over and take it.[/QUOTE]Your right, I should murder my dad or punch him in the face and make it worse, not like I need that roof over my head or anything, sure I broke the rules but man I have a disability I shouldn't be punished ever.
This is the dumbest thing, and it's not even on topic
[QUOTE=Sift;33115048]Your right, I should murder my dad or punch him in the face and make it worse, not like I need that roof over my head or anything, sure I broke the rules but man I have a disability I shouldn't be punished ever.
This is the dumbest thing, and it's not even on topic[/QUOTE]
No instead you should continue to get beat and show your dad he can beat you merciless and get away without any repercussions.
[QUOTE=Sift;33115048]Your right, I should murder my dad or punch him in the face and make it worse, not like I need that roof over my head or anything, sure I broke the rules but man I have a disability I shouldn't be punished ever.
This is the dumbest thing, and it's not even on topic[/QUOTE]
Did I tell you to murder your dad when I wasn't looking?
[QUOTE=Sift;33115048]Your right, I should murder my dad or punch him in the face and make it worse, not like I need that roof over my head or anything, sure I broke the rules but man I have a disability I shouldn't be punished ever.
This is the dumbest thing, and it's not even on topic[/QUOTE]
yeah alright I'm really sorry for what you went through, but you need to realize that it was [b]wrong[/b] and totally unacceptable
Not to be condescending here but I think someone is repressing some feeeeelings
[QUOTE=African DVDS;33115061]No instead you should continue to get beat and show your dad he can beat you merciless and get away without any repercussions.[/QUOTE]If he's hitting you because you're breaking rules, I'll give you a guess on what you should stop doing
Hint: It's breaking the rules.
My dad and this dude are cases where it doesn't apply but when normal people have kids, a simple punishment is alright. Jesus I fear for when you all have kids, they'll disobey you and all's you'll say is "Gosh sorry, guess my rules were to strict please have your way with what's in my house."
[editline]4th November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33115073]yeah alright I'm really sorry for what you went through, but you need to realize that it was [b]wrong[/b] and totally unacceptable[/QUOTE]I do, I'm not even talking about the case anymore, more of a proper punishment that could of been better for this situation instead of beating the kid or whatever.
sift, will you just come out and say you want the same sympathy she's getting instead of being all passive aggressive and shit
seriously, we get that you got it worse than she did. and you know what, there are children in africa who are taken from their families and forced to fight gang wars. how about i spend the next two pages telling you to shut the fuck up because you aren't completely destroyed emotionally and mentally?
the point is that it's bad
it's bad when it happens to her, it's bad when it happens to you, and it's bad when it happens to the poor african children.
[QUOTE=Sift;33115089]My dad and this dude are cases where it doesn't apply but when normal people have kids, a simple punishment is alright. Jesus I fear for when you all have kids, they'll disobey you and all's you'll say is "Gosh sorry, guess my rules were to strict please have your way with what's in my house."
[editline]4th November 2011[/editline]
I do, I'm not even talking about the case anymore, more of a proper punishment that could of been better for this situation instead of beating the kid or whatever.[/QUOTE]
and now you are strawmanning
[QUOTE=Sift;33115089]If he's hitting you because you're breaking rules, I'll give you a guess on what you should stop doing
Hint: It's breaking the rules.
My dad and this dude are cases where it doesn't apply but when normal people have kids, a simple punishment is alright. Jesus I fear for when you all have kids, they'll disobey you and all's you'll say is "Gosh sorry, guess my rules were to strict please have your way with what's in my house."
[editline]4th November 2011[/editline]
I do, I'm not even talking about the case anymore, more of a proper punishment that could of been better for this situation instead of beating the kid or whatever.[/QUOTE]
If I set a rule that you have to sleep on the floor, it's not alright if I beat you when you get into bed. Get some common sense through your head, just because your parent sets a rule it doesn't mean they have the right to beat you if you don't follow it. If it were anyone else, it'd be assault so why wouldn't beating your child be illegal?
[QUOTE=Lambeth;33115104]and now you are strawmanning[/QUOTE]I dont think that word means what you think it does.
[QUOTE=RopaDope;33112220]You guys I wasn't kidding. [b]I once punched my baby brother cause he broke my favorite hotwheel[/b]. So my aunt made me go outside and get a switch (stick) from the bushes to whip me with. And if it was a small one she broke it on me until I found a good sized one. And when I did something real bad like curse, my mother would whip me with the extension cord from the vacuum cleaner leaving whelps on my thighs, hands, and where ever I tried to defend myself. [b]Needless to say I was a very bad child that did not like behaving[/b]. [b]This resulted to me getting into a lot of fights until one day I was suspended from school[/b] and my father hung me by my neck over the balcony in the 7th grade. Needless to say I haven't gotten any serious infractions since then. I am now afraid to get in physical engagements with people which helps me stay out of trouble. I lack the ability to control my adrenaline but I turned out pretty well. I don't do much anymore and I actually miss the structure that the whoopings and beatings gave me throughout my childhood. I will parent my children the same why as my family raised me and so on. That 7 minute beating isn't shit of what i've seen my friends went through. My friends dad beat him with a wooden paddle with holes in it until it broke in half. You guys are just pacifist that don't believe in effective punishment. Spare the rod and spoil the child as they always say.[/QUOTE]
so you misbehaved terribly despite the physical punishment (read: abuse)
that is until your father traumatized you into behaving by threatening to drop you off of a balcony
uh
[QUOTE=Sift;33115114]I dont think that word means what you think it does.[/QUOTE]
[quote]"Jesus I fear for when you all have kids, they'll disobey you and all's you'll say is "Gosh sorry, guess my rules were to strict please have your way with what's in my house."[/quote]
Nobody said anything of the sort so yeah, it's a strawman
^^^ No it's a legit worry, I've asked how you think this could of been avoided or whatever, what would a better punishment could of been and all's I get is "MAN SO YOU THINK IT'S OKAY TO BEAT THE KID YOU NEED TO LOVE THEM NO MATTER WHAT" answers, I haven't seen a single repsonse from any of you on what kind of punishments would work better. So after pages of no responses I figured you know what, guess they wouldn't punish their kids.
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33115112]If I set a rule that you have to sleep on the floor, it's not alright if I beat you when you get into bed. Get some common sense through your head, just because your parent sets a rule it doesn't mean they have the right to beat you if you don't follow it. If it were anyone else, it'd be assault so why wouldn't beating your child be illegal?[/QUOTE]
I wish I had that gif of someone slamming their head into a wall.
Telling your kid not to download shit onto your computer because truth be told maybe he was one of those dudes that think everything is a virus, is not the same as telling them to sleep on the floor.
Also I want you to direct quote me where I said it's fine to beat your kid? Most I said is a /single/ spank and removal of the computer or whatever. Stop putting words in my mouth, please.
[QUOTE=Sift;33115089]If he's hitting you because you're breaking rules, I'll give you a guess on what you should stop doing
Hint: It's breaking the rules.
My dad and this dude are cases where it doesn't apply but when normal people have kids, a simple punishment is alright. Jesus I fear for when you all have kids, they'll disobey you and all's you'll say is "Gosh sorry, guess my rules were to strict please have your way with what's in my house."
[editline]4th November 2011[/editline]
I do, I'm not even talking about the case anymore, more of a proper punishment that could of been better for this situation instead of beating the kid or whatever.[/QUOTE]
fuck, what really gets me is that you don't understand how abuse can cause brainwashing yet you're a fucking case example of it
you can't even comprehend of children that react to anything other than violence, it's like in your mind children are emotionless sociopaths with no concept of empathy who only understand pain
[QUOTE=Sift;33115114]I dont think that word means what you think it does.[/QUOTE]
You are misrepresenting the argument that "beating your kids is always bad" to "let the kids go hog wild on your home"
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