• French Communist Party to drop hammer and sickle in controversial decision
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[QUOTE=laserguided;39531870]But you also can't disprove it with the fact that the USSR had a social agenda.[/QUOTE]Then what bearing does it have in this argument? Its not falsifiable and just falls down to "I choose to believe it because I want to believe it." Its almost religious in nature.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39531900]monsanto has taken evil policies that have made them hated, yet they still control most of our food.[/quote] They don't literally salt the earth tho "just cause". [quote]yea.[/QUOTE] How would this be enforced?
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;39531881]What makes you the ultimate determiner? What makes your values and practices greater than those of anyone else? What gives you as an individual the right to decide how others should act? How will you enforce these restrictions?[/QUOTE] Hey, blame critical, he put me into the position to decide. Which kind of tells how little he knows about communism because shit like that isn't left for one man to decide. Because I would totally send you along with any other dissidents into the fucking Gulag you bloody capitalist traitor scum, backstabbers of honest workers like you are wasting the precious air that our patriarchs require.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39531929]They don't literally salt the earth tho "just cause".[/quote] well yea, i'm just saying that just because everyone hates a company doesn't mean the company is necessarily going to cease to exist. [quote]How would this be enforced?[/QUOTE] it wouldn't be, it would be participatory and voluntary. no one would be forced to trade or allocate their resources, they would be free to decide whether they want to or not.
[QUOTE=smeismastger;39531930]Hey, blame critical, he put me into the position to decide. Which kind of tells how little he knows about communism because shit like that isn't left for one man to decide.[/QUOTE]You're aware you don't actually have to respond, correct? And you actually ran with the idea, he simply questioned if that was the method you would take. [QUOTE]Because I would totally send you along with any other dissidents into the fucking Gulag you bloody capitalist traitor scum, backstabbers of honest workers like you are wasting the precious air that our patriarchs require.[/QUOTE]Well, I'm a social democrat so where does that put me? [editline]9th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;39531951]it wouldn't be, it would be participatory and voluntary. no one would be forced to trade or allocate their resources, they would be free to decide whether they want to or not.[/QUOTE]And if they reject your systems?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39531951]well yea, i'm just saying that just because everyone hates a company doesn't mean the company is necessarily going to cease to exist.[/quote] No, but I think investors wouldn't be happy if the company spent loads of money salting the earth for no reason. [quote]it wouldn't be, it would be participatory and voluntary. no one would be forced to trade or allocate their resources, they would be free to decide whether they want to or not.[/QUOTE] if you sign a contract you kinda want to know that its upheld how would this be assured?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39532001] if you sign a contract you kinda want to know that its upheld how would this be assured?[/QUOTE] there might not be contracts in any traditional sense.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39532019]there might not be contracts in any traditional sense.[/QUOTE] So what would be done?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39532019]there might not be contracts in any traditional sense.[/QUOTE]The point still stands.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39532021]So what would be done?[/QUOTE] people can trade without being forced into contractual obligations.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39532033]people can trade without being forced into contractual obligations.[/QUOTE] Without being forced into obligations? So you don't need to uphold any obligations you make?
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;39531982]You're aware you don't actually have to respond, correct? And you actually ran with the idea, he simply questioned if that was the method you would take.[/QUOTE] ....and? [QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;39531982]Well, I'm a social democrat so where does that put me?[/QUOTE] Into a job which you are good at unless you are a lazy shit.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39532056]Without being forced into obligations? So you don't need to uphold any obligations you make?[/QUOTE] if you don't uphold your obligations your trading partners probably won't uphold their obligations. it's mutually beneficial to trade fairly with other people.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39532056]Without being forced into obligations? So you don't need to uphold any obligations you make?[/QUOTE] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoners_dilemma]The Prisoner's Dilemma[/url] [editline]9th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=smeismastger;39532072]....and?[/QUOTE]You said it was cccritical's doing when in reality he gave you an out. You just chose not to take it. [QUOTE]Into a job which you are good at unless you are a lazy shit.[/QUOTE]Would "good" be an absolute concept with a set of criteria that must be met, or a relative concept measured based on the qualities of the others in my field?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39532078]if you don't uphold your obligations your trading partners probably won't uphold their obligations. it's mutually beneficial to trade fairly with other people.[/QUOTE] Which is why people don't tend to lie/exaggerate/cut corners on about what they do so as to get more out of the deal?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39532138]Which is why people don't tend to lie/exaggerate/cut corners on about what they do so as to get more out of the deal?[/QUOTE] that's more likely with a contract.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;39532081] Would "good" be an absolute concept with a set of criteria that must be met, or a relative concept measured based on the qualities of the others in my field?[/QUOTE] There are no "good" or "bad" jobs, only those that earns you a living.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39532158]that's more likely with a contract.[/QUOTE] Why?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39532180]Why?[/QUOTE] because if you are adept at manipulating the contract you can get out of doing as much while the other side is still obligated to provide. without a contract to tie someone in, if they aren't satisfied with the results of the agreement, they are free to stop trading.
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