Trump confirmed as keynote speaker for anti-LGBT conference - Polidicks

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;52772622]My dad isn't religious but he's fairly homophobic. He says "its unnatural" and when I say its been observed in animals he goes weird with some semi personal attack borderline accusing me of being gay or too liberal. I think its like a habituated over compensation for insecurity re masculinity or something. Prove how much of a "man" you are by dicking on people you consider "less manly".[/QUOTE] Toxic masculinity is definitely a big player in homophobic thoughts

Glad i moved to america to get away from my third world homelands shitty lgbt laws only to be slapped by a president who might as well be a leader back in my third world homeland. Cannot catch a break tbh

Homophobia is a disease that needs curing; this administration is just one big, rotting diseased corpse that other sick people feed from to spite the healthy.

[QUOTE=Xyrec;52770160]That smug fucking smile :v:[/QUOTE] He has a face that just screams "Hit me with a fucking hammer"

[QUOTE=Eva-1337;52772904]Homophobia is a disease that needs curing; this administration is just one big, rotting diseased corpse that other sick people feed from to spite the healthy.[/QUOTE] I'm going to quote American Horror Story because it was a pretty good line. "People like [Mr. Anderson and] Trump are not the garbage, they are the flies that the garbage attracts. It's time we take out the garbage."

[QUOTE=ZakkShock;52772988]He has a face that just screams "Hit me with a fucking hammer"[/QUOTE] This thing. Don't do it, please.

[QUOTE=Vlevs;52773133]This thing. Don't do it, please.[/QUOTE] What thing? It's just a visual analysis of the attractiveness of his face. Same way you'd say Gorbachev had the [URL="https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/71/179671-049-91F481F8.jpg"]remnants of a shrunken testicle[/URL] on his head. Or how the president himself has openly mocked a disabled reporter despite being severely disabled himself.

[QUOTE=TWKUK;52770644]the problem isn't even Trump. I doubt he has any strong feelings one way or the other about LGBT people, or any other given minority in this country. [/QUOTE] You aren't very well read on his past if you think that the claims that he is racist and homophobic are unfounded. Have you read about the racist renting practices? Sessions was chosen for a reason. Even disregarding all the claims that have been levied against him, it would be foolish to not judge the man by the company he keeps. A nice little collection of reading materials on the subject of Trump/racism: [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/65h3b6/a_final_response_to_the_tell_me_why_trump_is/[/url]

I'll be very, very eager to hear what Trump has to say at this meeting. I'd act shocked to hear this news, but sadly, I'm not. Trump's been relying on the votes of hateful, idiot scumbags since day one. And while it's all well and good to say #notalltrumpvoters and all that (Hillary was no angel, after all) it's pretty damn evident where his intentions lie. In a way, I'm almost glad this news has gotten out. Paired with his absurd "ban" on transgendered people in the military and his refusal to condemn the execution of people for their sexuality with the U.N, not to mention his pussy-footing around the whole "fucking [B][I]nazis[/I][/B]" issue, there are less and less reasons for this asshole to remain in power.

[QUOTE=Nitro836;52772268]Since I am somewhat ignorant about it, I gotta ask. Just what exactly is the problem that these old generation people have with LGBT+ people? I don't seem to get a consistent answer. Usually something like "it's icky, religion condemns it, I don't like it personally therefore nobody should".[/QUOTE] that's literally it

[QUOTE=EcksDee;52773153]What thing? It's just a visual analysis of the attractiveness of his face. Same way you'd say Gorbachev had the [URL="https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/71/179671-049-91F481F8.jpg"]remnants of a shrunken testicle[/URL] on his head. Or how the president himself has openly mocked a disabled reporter despite being severely disabled himself.[/QUOTE] No, it's not. Compare it to whatever, but don't go suggesting that hammer treatment is in any way acceptable to anyone, for any reason. Also, don't use Trump's behavior as a yardstick except to what to avoid like plague. If more people start behaving like him even in opposition to him, Trump has already won.

[QUOTE=Flicky;52770025]The organization which is running this event, the Family Research Council, has been designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center [url=https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/family-research-council]as a hate group.[/url][/QUOTE] I sent my dad this, but he says that SPLC is a hate group. I don't really know if it's legit or bullshit, though he has a conservative bias, so idk, he might of heard it from someone who probably made it up because SPLC was left-leaning or some shit. That's something I need to look more into.

[QUOTE=Skerion;52774539]I sent my dad this, but he says that SPLC is a hate group. I don't really know if it's legit or bullshit, though he has a conservative bias, so idk, he might of heard it from someone who probably made it up because SPLC was left-leaning or some shit. That's something I need to look more into.[/QUOTE] The SPLC has [url=https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civil-rights/hate-crimes]worked with the FBI before[/url] when it comes to handling hate groups. Your dad is either misinformed or intentionally giving you bullshit.

[QUOTE=Vlevs;52773638]No, it's not. Compare it to whatever, but don't go suggesting that hammer treatment is in any way acceptable to anyone, for any reason. Also, don't use Trump's behavior as a yardstick except to what to avoid like plague. If more people start behaving like him even in opposition to him, Trump has already won.[/QUOTE] idk man I'd say it's a pretty fair treatment.

[QUOTE=Flicky;52774743]The SPLC has [url=https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civil-rights/hate-crimes]worked with the FBI before[/url] when it comes to handling hate groups. Your dad is either misinformed or intentionally giving you bullshit.[/QUOTE] He probably doesn't trust the FBI, but I'll have to ask him. I like to think that he's just misinformed, especially since he started to support legalizing marijuana, tends to criticize how a lot of Christians act like the bible has no contradictions, and doesn't like Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos. It's just that he really seems to be into conspiracy theories which sometimes involve George Soros, and there's a bunch of news sites that he doesn't trust (Not even Reuters, or PBS to some extent). It feels fucking awful to me because whenever he's sharing shit with me about Islam or globalists, I don't really know how to verify or disprove it if it's fake because I'm not a fucking dedicated debate genius, and whenever I send him something about what's going on with the administration or some other related controversy, about 60% of the time he says he doesn't trust the source and then talks about the stuff they supposedly did. He says that I shouldn't blindly believe everything that I read, and I do have a habit of doing that since I'm a lazy asshole that just wants to play video games, but at the same time, how do I know if the stuff my dad reads can be trusted or not? Even with the stupid George Soros theories, I funnily enough don't know what to think about them because I haven't bothered to read anything about them from either side; I just assume they're bullshit because that's what everyone else feels. Dad recently started to talk to me about how "People mock these conspiracy theorists so that word wouldn't get out that it's legit", and I gradually started doubting myself more and more because that very argument he made sounded just reasonable enough by itself to me as the sheltered and cuddled autist I am. This is fucking why public schools need to teach critical thinking. I feel like I'm starting to become a victim to misinformation, ironically by """realizing""" that I've been a victim to misinformation. Fuck my stupid brain.

[QUOTE=Skerion;52774872]He probably doesn't trust the FBI, but I'll have to ask him. I like to think that he's just misinformed, especially since he started to support legalizing marijuana, tends to criticize how a lot of Christians act like the bible has no contradictions, and doesn't like Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos. It's just that he really seems to be into conspiracy theories which sometimes involve George Soros, and there's a bunch of news sites that he doesn't trust (Not even Reuters, or PBS to some extent). It feels fucking awful to me because whenever he's sharing shit with me about Islam or globalists, I don't really know how to verify or disprove it if it's fake because I'm not a fucking dedicated debate genius, and whenever I send him something about what's going on with the administration or some other related controversy, about 60% of the time he says he doesn't trust the source and then talks about the stuff they supposedly did. He says that I shouldn't blindly believe everything that I read, and I do have a habit of doing that since I'm a lazy asshole that just wants to play video games, but at the same time, how do I know if the stuff my dad reads can be trusted or not? Even with the stupid George Soros theories, I funnily enough don't know what to think about them because I haven't bothered to read anything about them from either side; I just assume they're bullshit because that's what everyone else feels. Dad recently started to talk to me about how "People mock these conspiracy theorists so that word wouldn't get out that it's legit", and I gradually started doubting myself more and more because that very argument he made sounded just reasonable enough by itself to me as a sheltered and cuddled autist. This is fucking why public schools need to teach critical thinking. I feel like I'm starting to become a victim to misinformation, ironically by """realizing""" that I've been a victim to misinformation. Fuck my stupid brain.[/QUOTE] This video might be helpful to you: [video=youtube;Hug0rfFC_L8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hug0rfFC_L8[/video]

[QUOTE=Skerion;52774872]He probably doesn't trust the FBI, but I'll have to ask him. I like to think that he's just misinformed, especially since he started to support legalizing marijuana, tends to criticize how a lot of Christians act like the bible has no contradictions, and doesn't like Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos. It's just that he really seems to be into conspiracy theories which sometimes involve George Soros, and there's a bunch of news sites that he doesn't trust (Not even Reuters, or PBS to some extent). It feels fucking awful to me because whenever he's sharing shit with me about Islam or globalists, I don't really know how to verify or disprove it if it's fake because I'm not a fucking dedicated debate genius, and whenever I send him something about what's going on with the administration or some other related controversy, about 60% of the time he says he doesn't trust the source and then talks about the stuff they supposedly did. He says that I shouldn't blindly believe everything that I read, and I do have a habit of doing that since I'm a lazy asshole that just wants to play video games, but at the same time, how do I know if the stuff my dad reads can be trusted or not? Even with the stupid George Soros theories, I funnily enough don't know what to think about them because I haven't bothered to read anything about them from either side; I just assume they're bullshit because that's what everyone else feels. Dad recently started to talk to me about how "People mock these conspiracy theorists so that word wouldn't get out that it's legit", and I gradually started doubting myself more and more because that very argument he made sounded just reasonable enough by itself to me as the sheltered and cuddled autist I am. This is fucking why public schools need to teach critical thinking. I feel like I'm starting to become a victim to misinformation, ironically by """realizing""" that I've been a victim to misinformation. Fuck my stupid brain.[/QUOTE] All it takes is a Google and a read. I hadn't actually verified if the SPLC was a hate group until your post because I thought it was obvious. A quick skim of their Wikipedia article and a peek at a few sources (read the citations!), and I knew they couldn't be a hate group. Don't blame it on your "stupid brain." You can train it to get smarter. It just takes work and wanting to know more.

[QUOTE=Skerion;52774872]He probably doesn't trust the FBI, but I'll have to ask him. I like to think that he's just misinformed, especially since he started to support legalizing marijuana, tends to criticize how a lot of Christians act like the bible has no contradictions, and doesn't like Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos. It's just that he really seems to be into conspiracy theories which sometimes involve George Soros, and there's a bunch of news sites that he doesn't trust (Not even Reuters, or PBS to some extent). It feels fucking awful to me because whenever he's sharing shit with me about Islam or globalists, I don't really know how to verify or disprove it if it's fake because I'm not a fucking dedicated debate genius, and whenever I send him something about what's going on with the administration or some other related controversy, about 60% of the time he says he doesn't trust the source and then talks about the stuff they supposedly did. He says that I shouldn't blindly believe everything that I read, and I do have a habit of doing that since I'm a lazy asshole that just wants to play video games, but at the same time, how do I know if the stuff my dad reads can be trusted or not? Even with the stupid George Soros theories, I funnily enough don't know what to think about them because I haven't bothered to read anything about them from either side; I just assume they're bullshit because that's what everyone else feels. Dad recently started to talk to me about how "People mock these conspiracy theorists so that word wouldn't get out that it's legit", and I gradually started doubting myself more and more because that very argument he made sounded just reasonable enough by itself to me as the sheltered and cuddled autist I am. This is fucking why public schools need to teach critical thinking. I feel like I'm starting to become a victim to misinformation, ironically by """realizing""" that I've been a victim to misinformation. Fuck my stupid brain.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry if you've seen this before, but the image and link I'm going to put at the bottom of this post will hopefully help you (I think) find the truth for yourself. My personal theory is "if it sounds like it'd make a great fiction book, it's probably fiction". Most of the current woes of our world have a pretty visible paper trail (with varying interpretations on who or what is more responsible) that was created by people with simple motivations like petty spite, ignorance, fear or greed. This isn't including a lot of times where people start with noble ambitions, but oversight leads to unintended consequences no one wants to pick up after. It's not, as your father put, something that mocked conspiracy theorists would be the only ones right about. If that were the case, why wouldn't these powerful people simply bribe or kill them? They clearly have a vast amount of power and hoping the public would be on their side is foolish. It's just a cyclical issue that ultimately boils down to "these guys are conspiracy nuts enjoying the fantasy of being on a dangerous crusade to find the truth (like Adam Jensen or Fox Mulder) and the fame/paycheck that comes with it." Anyways, that's enough of my thoughts. Simply put, use the image below alongside the video linked earlier with the [url=https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/]Media Bias/Fact Check[/url] website that facepunch itself uses to judge sources fit for Polidicks and you should be okay :v: [t]http://s3.amazonaws.com/libapps/accounts/55918/images/How-to-Spot-Fake-News-1.jpeg[/t] Also, as an aside, you aren't stupid. This is a long, tiring process and it's a process that, as you noted, isn't taught very much until much later in education. The biggest point is to never stop checking and asking yourself what the reality of the situation is.

[QUOTE=Skerion;52774872]Dad recently started to talk to me about how "People mock these conspiracy theorists so that word wouldn't get out that it's legit", and I gradually started doubting myself more and more because that very argument he made sounded just reasonable enough by itself to me as the sheltered and cuddled autist I am.[/QUOTE] It's a terribly convenient argument, isn't it? I'm usually not one for bringing up fallacies, so I don't know if this is right, but isn't that what they call circular logic? As per Wikipedia: [quote]The components of a circular argument are often logically valid because if the premises are true, the conclusion must be true. Circular reasoning is not a formal logical fallacy but a pragmatic defect in an argument whereby the premises are just as much in need of proof or evidence as the conclusion, and as a consequence the argument fails to persuade. Other ways to express this are that there is no reason to accept the premises unless one already believes the conclusion, or that the premises provide no independent ground or evidence for the conclusion.[/quote] The premise: conspiracy theorists are right. The conclusion: conspiracy theorists are mocked because they're right. Or alternatively: the truth must be suppressed, so the truth is being suppressed. The conclusion only offers an explanation if you assume the premise to be correct.

[QUOTE=Flicky;52774743]The SPLC has [URL="https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civil-rights/hate-crimes"]worked with the FBI before[/URL] when it comes to handling hate groups. Your dad is either misinformed or intentionally giving you bullshit.[/QUOTE] The FBI specifically stopped working with, and listing them on their website, because of their bias. For example, they vastly overstate the number of hate groups in the US by listing different instances of the same group, like the KKK, as totally separate. So if I run a KKK group in Georgia and you run one in Kansas, then the SPLC would list us as two separate hate groups. ([URL]http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/03/12/the-hate-list/[/URL] , this article goes into a few issues with the SPLC) This helps them drum up fear and get donations.

Ive never understood the need for conspiracy theories beyond wanting to feel superior to everyone around you or like the protagonist in a dues ex game. There is plenty of real corruption and real shady dealings going on in the global political landscape to get angry over, why invent new stuff?

[QUOTE=sgman91;52774964]The FBI specifically stopped working with, and [B]listing them on their website[/B], because of their bias.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Public Outreach: The FBI has forged partnerships nationally and locally with many civil rights organizations to establish rapport, share information, address concerns, and cooperate in solving problems. These groups include such organizations as the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, American Association of University Women, Anti-Defamation League, Asian American Justice Center, Hindu American Foundation, Human Rights Campaign, The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, National Center for Transgender Equality, National Council of Jewish Women, National Disability Rights Network, National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, National Organization for Women, Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund, The Sikh Coalition, [B][U]Southern Poverty Law Center[/U][/B], and many others.[/QUOTE] Except they're still listed there?

[QUOTE=sgman91;52774964]The FBI specifically stopped working with, and listing them on their website, because of their bias. For example, they vastly overstate the number of hate groups in the US by listing different instances of the same group, like the KKK, as totally separate. So if I run a KKK group in Georgia and you run one in Kansas, then the SPLC would list us as two separate hate groups. ([URL]http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/03/12/the-hate-list/[/URL] , this article goes into a few issues with the SPLC) This helps them drum up fear and get donations.[/QUOTE] I don't see the problem with listing different active chapters of the same hate group in different states.

[QUOTE=Rika-chan;52774998]I don't see the problem with listing different active chapters of the same hate group in different states.[/QUOTE] Yeah I don't get it, that's perfectly fair. If they're organized by different people, in different communities, and have a different impact, why should we not list them separately? Just because they have the same name, we should shy away from accuracy and proper documentation?

Yeah, complaining about them ~overstating~ the number of hate groups because they list various chapters and offshoot groups separately seems like the kind of criticism you come up with after you already dislike an organisation and need to justify it.

how is this person still our president

[QUOTE=SuperDuprKyle;52775032]how is this person still our president[/QUOTE] He, and/or the people around him, somewhat expertly rode on the waves of distrust and paranoia that have built up over the course of decades within the western hemisphere.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;52774983]Except they're still listed there?[/QUOTE] It's tough to find an article on it that isn't from either a far right or far left site, but the spokesperson for the FBI put out a statement a while back saying that they were taking the SPLC off their resource list. Interestingly enough, here are two articles, written by the same person, from a far right wing and a far left wing site about it: [URL]https://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/31/the-fbis-break-up-with-the-splc-may-be-more-public-relations-than-anything-else/[/URL] [URL]https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/fbi-removes-link-to-southern-poverty-law-center-from-its-website-may-contin[/URL] [editline]12th October 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=fulgrim;52775031]Yeah, complaining about them ~overstating~ the number of hate groups because they list various chapters and offshoot groups separately seems like the kind of criticism you come up with after you already dislike an organisation and need to justify it.[/QUOTE] Well, you should let the multiple journalists, from respected, and not right leaning, news organizations (like Politico), that they shouldn't be writing about it, then.

[QUOTE=sgman91;52775090]It's tough to find an article on it that isn't from either a far right or far left site, but the spokesperson for the FBI put out a statement a while back saying that they were taking the SPLC off their resource list. Interestingly enough, here are two articles, written by the same person, from a far right wing and a far left wing site about it: [url]https://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/31/the-fbis-break-up-with-the-splc-may-be-more-public-relations-than-anything-else/[/url] [url]https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/fbi-removes-link-to-southern-poverty-law-center-from-its-website-may-contin[/url][/QUOTE] Finding an assertion put forward by a thinkpiece published by a website biased to the far-left and another by a website biased to the far-right does not cancel out and make either assertion unbiased as both far-left and far-right news sources are notorious for spreading politically motivated misinformation, which should be even more apparent when both sources are written by the same person. The first article even states that the FBI isn't breaking up with the SPLC and is still using it's list of hate groups as a source. The second article states that the FBI removed a link to the SPLC from it's website and it was [b]published in 2014[/b], so obviously the information from either article is no longer relevant as the SPLC is currently linked on the FBI website. [editline]13th October 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=sgman91;52775090] Well, you should let the multiple journalists, from respected, and not right leaning, news organizations (like Politico), that they shouldn't be writing about it, then.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure what this means? Are you arguing that politico shouldn't criticize hate groups or the SPLC?

[QUOTE=Zyler;52775101]Finding an assertion put forward by a thinkpiece published by a website biased to the far-left and another by a website biased to the far-right does not cancel out and make either assertion unbiased as both far-left and far-right news sources are notorious for spreading politically motivated misinformation, which should be even more apparent when both sources are written by the same person. The first article even states that the FBI isn't breaking up with the SPLC and is still using it's list of hate groups as a source. The second article states that the FBI removed a link to the SPLC from it's website and was [B]published in 2014[/B], the SPLC is currently linked on the FBI website, so obviously that information is no longer relevant.[/QUOTE] The articles were quoting an FBI spokesperson. My intent in posting a far left and far right article was to show that the quote wasn't being fabricated in the name of bias. I believe that the SPLC used to be linked as an external resource by the FBI (on the bottom of this website: [URL]https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civil-rights/hate-crimes#External-Resources[/URL]), but were actively taken off because of their methodologies.