[QUOTE=The mouse;29614822]Sony blaming Anon is like them going to Congress and saying that noone did it.[/QUOTE]
Did you even bother to read the article?
Good luck trying to sue "anonymous", Sony.
I'm anonymous when i surf for porn. Please dont kill me sony!
I'm thinking this is a ploy to degrade anonymous' reputation (for what little was created through their recent incidents).
'Course, it could have been people who claim to be Anonymous all along, which makes sense.
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Oh for fuck's sake. Anyone can claim to be in Anonymous. ANYONE.
We've said this before in other threads related to Anon. The fact that there is no structure means anyone can jump in and out of the Anon Label.
So sure one person claiming to be part of Anon can do this and another guy claiming to be part of Anon will say they didn't. You can't prove either or so stop fucking making jokes.
They're just reporting to Congress what they've found, so yeah. That's all it fucking is.
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[QUOTE=Starpluck;29613876]We've repeated this several times already.[/QUOTE]
Then how come its not sticking?
This honestly reminded me of the story of the Odyssey. You know, the part with the cyclops.
[i]"It was Nobody! Nobody has blinded me!"[/i]
"Let's place this txt file here saying We are Anonymous, that'll keep them off our backs."
"Hurf a durfff, yea that'll show Anon who the real hackers are!"
MEANWHILE in real life:
"Anonymous left a txt file for us on one of our servers."
"They must have done it."
"Gotta blame someone, still don't know who the fuck really did it."
[QUOTE=Marcolade;29616054]This honestly reminded me of the story of the Odyssey. You know, the part with the cyclops.
[i]"It was Nobody! Nobody has blinded me!"[/i][/QUOTE]
GET OUT OF MY HEAD!! We literally just read that part in my mythology class less than 3 hours ago :O
[QUOTE=Swilly;29615615]Then how come its not sticking?[/QUOTE]
Because of their organized operations like the Scientology protests. The people involved needed to protest anonymously in order to avoid legal action, so they were told to wear masks and not use their names to protect their identity. People tend to misinterpret this as a dress code, which gives it the appearance of a sort of club. The malevolent or illegal things that have done by Anons usually involve a much smaller, more isolated group of people, thus you don't hear about it, and tend to think of them as just random assholes.
OP: AFP reported on the same story but with a lot more insight.
[quote]Cybercriminals left a file in the name of "hacktivist" group "Anonymous" on the servers of Sony's online entertainment network, the Japanese company said Wednesday, but it stopped short of directly accusing the Internet vigilantes of carrying out the attack.
Sony, in a letter to a US congressional committee investigating data theft, provided its most detailed explanation yet of the hacker attacks on Sony Online Entertainment, the PlayStation Network and Qriocity streaming music service.
Personal information such as the user names, passwords, addresses and birth dates of more than 100 million people may have been compromised in the attacks and the intruders may also have made off with credit and debit card data.
Committee chairman Mary Bono Mack, a Republican from California, criticized Sony for declining to attend the hearing, calling its decision "unacceptable," and said it should have notified customers sooner of the data breach.
Mack said Sony claimed it was "too busy" with its ongoing investigation to appear, but Sony Computer Entertainment America chairman Kazuo Hirai did respond to questions from US lawmakers in a letter to the committee.
Sony, in the letter to the House Subcommittee on Commerce, Manufacturing and Trade, noted that the large-scale data theft came shortly after the PlayStation Network suffered distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks from the loose knit group of "hacktivists" known as Anonymous.
Anonymous, which carried out attacks last year against US companies which withdrew services to WikiLeaks, had vowed retribution against Sony for taking legal action against hackers who cracked PlayStation 3 (PS3) defenses to change console operating software.
Anonymous argues that PS3 console owners have the right to do what they want with them, including modifying them.
In a typical DDoS attack, a large number of computers are commanded to simultaneously visit a website, overwhelming its servers, slowing service or knocking it offline completely.
Anonymous took credit for the DDoS attacks but denied involvement in the data theft.
Sony's Hirai, in his letter, said "what is becoming more and more evident is that Sony has been the victim of a very carefully planned, very professional, highly sophisticated criminal cyberattack designed to steal personal and credit card information for illegal purposes."
He said intruders who stole data from Sony Online Entertainment servers "had planted a file on one of those servers named 'Anonymous' with the words 'We are Legion,'" the Anonymous motto.
"Just weeks before, several Sony companies had been the target of a large-scale, coordinated denial of service attack by the group called Anonymous," Hirai noted.
"Almost two weeks ago, one or more cybercriminals gained access to PlayStation Network servers at or around the same time that these servers were experiencing denial of service attacks," he said.
"Whether those who participated in the denial of service attacks were conspirators or whether they were simply duped into providing cover for a very clever thief, we may never know," the Sony executive said.
"In any case, those who participated in the denial of service attacks should understand that -- whether they knew it or not -- they were aiding in a well planned, well executed, large-scale theft that left not only Sony a victim, but also Sony's many customers around the world," he said.
Sony also said it was cooperating with the Federal Bureau of Investigation and private forensics companies in investigating the data theft, which has led Sony to temporarily shut down the PlayStation Network.
The PlayStation Network connects PS3 consoles to online games, films and more. Players are still able to take part in games offline on consoles, but have lost the ability to challenge others on the Internet.
The PlayStation Network was launched in November 2006 and boasts about 77 million registered users worldwide.
Sony said it discovered the initial breach between April 17 and April 19 and shut down the network on April 20, but has faced criticism for not disclosing it until a week later.[/quote]
[url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jjyUHmOjoNzwSEdeXKqhOdAlvVoA?docId=CNG.e73a3d4ada4c822cbcaee9345abb3385.3c1]**SOURCE**[/url]
Remember that anon is loose knit. It's totally possible a script kiddie got into the breach group and left it behind.
[QUOTE=Janizaurd;29613384]I don't know what to think about it, the hacker could have just simply used Anoymous to get the blame away from himself, but it's quite possible someone from Anonymous (some lurker) would have done that.[/QUOTE]
I don't think a 450 pound nerd could hack a software giant like Sony singlehandedly.
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Also, the old anonymous, aka the laugh-at-NEDM-cat-on-fire-and-then-go-hack-some-random-target would do this, the new one, aka the scientology-is-evil-hacktivism, probably wouldn't unless Sony had done something they considered offensive.
[QUOTE=Janizaurd;29613384]I don't know what to think about it, the hacker could have just simply used Anonymous to get the blame away from himself, but it's quite possible someone from Anonymous (some lurker) would have done that.[/QUOTE]
As far as I know there's no way to really classify one as "part of Anonymous". It's in the fucking name, these people are unnamed within the group. You can't tell who's part of it and who's just checking. It could have been somebody who used to be, or is part of the community, but he could have had absolutely no interaction with the rest during the hacking attempt, and he most probably didn't, as then we would know.
Anonymous isn't a segregated group of people. It's more of a sort of people. Blaming something on "Anonymous" as an entity is retarded and imho points on how fucked they are. They don't have ANYBODY specific to blame it on. They try to make a scrapegoat out of entity that doesn't practically exist, as they are pretty fucked.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;29619278]As far as I know there's no way to really classify one as "part of Anonymous". It's in the fucking name, these people are unnamed within the group. You can't tell who's part of it and who's just checking. It could have been somebody who used to be, or is part of the community, but he could have had absolutely no interaction with the rest during the hacking attempt, and he most probably didn't, as then we would know.
Anonymous isn't a segregated group of people. It's more of a sort of people. Blaming something on "Anonymous" as an entity is retarded and imho points on how fucked they are. They don't have ANYBODY specific to blame it on. They try to make a scrapegoat out of entity that doesn't practically exist, as they are pretty fucked.[/QUOTE]
Notice, they're basing it off the text file, not actually SAYING they did it.
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