British Judges Free Child Rapists, Say 12-Year-Old Girls “Wanted” Sex
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[QUOTE=Lazor;31303327]they cannot legally consent
what is so hard to understand about this?
and the fact that you think they should be(i say "should" rather than "are" because they aren't) punished is fucking disgusting[/QUOTE]
okay, really? are you just plugging your ears and saying "lalala i can't hear you"?
[QUOTE=Mon;31303319]have you ever actually screwed anyone before
do you really think you ask for id before you get it on[/QUOTE]
um, i don't fuck people that i think look like they are right at the age of consent. and if i were into hooking up with random chicks i barely know, i would certainly take every precaution because i'm not an idiot
it's not like this was heat of the moment, either.
[QUOTE=Lazor;31303327]they cannot legally consent
what is so hard to understand about this?
and the fact that you think they should be(i say "should" rather than "are" because they aren't) punished is fucking disgusting[/QUOTE]
These girls lied and got caught breaking the law, the guys had no prior knowledge that they were doing anything wrong. The girls are completely wrong here.
[QUOTE=Lazor;31303343]um, i don't fuck people that i think look like they are right at the age of consent. and if i were into hooking up with random chicks i barely know, i would certainly take every precaution because i'm not an idiot
it's not like this was heat of the moment, either.[/QUOTE]
again, you aren't listening
we've been through this, 12 year olds these days can totally look 16
get your head out of your ass and stop being so ignorant
[QUOTE=Lazor;31303343]um, i don't fuck people that i think look like they are right at the age of consent. and if i were into hooking up with random chicks i barely know, i would certainly take every precaution because i'm not an idiot
it's not like this was heat of the moment, either.[/QUOTE]
The girls weren't drugged, they weren't drunk, they weren't passed out. If the girl is in a mental state that I deem acceptable, I expect her to be truthful so I don't get the red white and blue dick jammed up my ass because the whore lied to me.
[QUOTE=Mon;31303350]again, you aren't listening
we've been through this, 12 year olds these days can totally look 16
get your head out of your ass and stop being so ignorant[/QUOTE]
we're not even fucking talking about that
i've even acknowledged the possibility. you have to be a total retard to go around having sex with girls that look like they are right at the age of consent indiscriminately
[QUOTE=Lazor;31303269]your "actual rape" definition is wrong on every level
you can be raped without being physically forced[/QUOTE]
Well lets just go with Wikipedia on this one because it has four citations
[quote]Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse, which is initiated by one or more persons against another person without that person's [B][I][U]consent.[/U][/I][/B][/quote]
Rape, by literal definition is being forced to have sex against your will. "Statutory Rape" is a fake extension name made up by law makers to "protect" people "they don't see fit to make the decision" of having sex. Rape was a [I]tack-on[/I] to make the word seem emotionally stronger. Because "Ignorant Sex" or "Immoral Sex" didnt sound quite as AWESOME as[sp](Statutory)[/sp]RAPE.
In my personal opinion, the furthest extent I'd agree with statutory rape is being [I]tricked[/I] into having sex when you are under the age limit, because if you are tricked then it was without your [B]consent[/B]. Unfortunately if the person in question did give consent, then by [U]literal definition[/U], it is not rape.
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;31303353]The girls weren't drugged, they weren't drunk, they weren't passed out. If the girl is in a mental state that I deem acceptable, I expect her to be truthful so I don't get the red white and blue dick jammed up my ass because the whore lied to me.[/QUOTE]
so basically you are retarded enough to trust young girls that you randomly hook up with?
[QUOTE=Lazor;31303366]we're not even fucking talking about that
i've even acknowledged the possibility. you have to be a total retard to go around having sex with girls that look like they are right at the age of consent indiscriminately[/QUOTE]
No because I don't act like a fucking robot at a party asking "before we have intercourse, I need some identification" who does that? Seriously?
[editline]24th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Lazor;31303372]so basically you are retarded enough to trust young girls that you randomly hook up with?[/QUOTE]
No I don't trust them but I don't act like a drone requesting identification. I also think that I shouldn't get fucked over because she fucking lied to me.
[QUOTE=Lazor;31303366]we're not even fucking talking about that
i've even acknowledged the possibility. you have to be a total retard to go around having sex with girls that look like they are right at the age of consent indiscriminately[/QUOTE]
not everyone is going to be so goddamn anal about it man
these men were willing to take their pants off for these girls, that's well beyond a point of "CAN I SEE SOME ID"
so basically what i've gathered from this thread is that you all lack the social skills to find out if a girl is actually above the age of consent
especially with the knowledge that their are girls that can look 4 years older than they really are
i'm going to bed have fun lacking any sort of self-control
[QUOTE=Lazor;31303412]so basically what i've gathered from this thread is that you all lack the social skills to find out if a girl is actually above the age of consent
especially with the knowledge that their are girls that can look 4 years older than they really are
i'm going to bed have fun lacking any sort of self-control[/QUOTE]
wow
Sanius do you ever actually make a good argument or do you just go through threads rating people you disagree with dumb and/or insulting their intelligence?
uh guys we should probably talk more about the abuse aspect?
is it abusive to coerce people, which the article claims they did do, into random sexual contact at a park when you don't know anything about them and they certainly look like they could be under-age?
law seems to say yes, you guys seem to say i don't give a fuck about this shit suck my dick
[QUOTE=Lazor;31303412]so basically what i've gathered from this thread is that you all lack the social skills to find out if a girl is actually above the age of consent
especially with the knowledge that their are girls that can look 4 years older than they really are
i'm going to bed have fun lacking any sort of self-control[/QUOTE]
You're a fuckin' blithering moron. When I'm at a party and I'm hooking up, if I ask the girl "are you 18?" Now that I am 18, I always ask that, if she says yes and she isn't tripping balls, she looks 18, that's enough consent for me.
/thread
Whatever. Stop making everyone repeat the same shit over and over.
[QUOTE=Lazor;31303412]so basically what i've gathered from this thread is that you all lack the social skills to find out if a girl is actually above the age of consent
[/QUOTE]
Most people aren't Sherlock Holmes. If you go to a party, and the girl you're talking with looks like she's 16, and [I]says[/I] she 16, do you ask her for ID just to confirm it?
Im legitimately curious on the ways to get a girl to show you her ID when you're trying to score
[editline]24th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;31303424]Sanius do you ever actually make a good argument or do you just go through threads rating people you disagree with dumb and/or insulting their intelligence?[/QUOTE]
It would be a bright day for mankind the day that people are autobanned on facepunch for using the dumb rating more than 5 times on one page.
[QUOTE=thisispain;31303432]uh guys we should probably talk more about the abuse aspect?
is it abusive to coerce people, which the article claims they did do, into random sexual contact at a park when you don't know anything about them and they certainly look like they could be under-age?
law seems to say yes, you guys seem to say i don't give a fuck about this shit suck my dick[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone is saying that.
This whole current argument we're on originated because someone said it was impossible for a 12 year old girl to be misjudged as a 16 year old.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;31303436]Most people aren't Sherlock Holmes. If you go to a party, and the girl you're talking with looks like she's 16, and [I]says[/I] she 16, do you ask her for ID just to confirm it?
Im legitimately curious on the ways to get a girl to show you her ID when you're trying to score[/QUOTE]
"Hello, before I penetrate you, I would like to see a state issued form of identification"
[img]http://dirtsquadblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/forever-alone-big-500x584.png[/img]
[QUOTE=thisispain;31303432]uh guys we should probably talk more about the abuse aspect?
is it abusive to coerce people, which the article claims they did do, into random sexual contact at a park when you don't know anything about them and they certainly look like they could be under-age?
law seems to say yes, you guys seem to say i don't give a fuck about this shit suck my dick[/QUOTE]
the article is actually a blog, i wouldn't trust it word for word
better source:
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2014278/Jailed-footballers-freed-judges-rape-appeal-say-girls-12-wanted-sex.html?ito=feeds-newsxml[/url]
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;31303453]
This whole current argument we're on originated because someone said it was impossible for a 12 year old girl to be misjudged as a 16 year old.[/QUOTE]
that's a stupid thing to talk about considering none of you know what they even looked like and they could have known that she was 12 years old yet carried on anyway that's not unheard of at all
[editline]24th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mon;31303471]the article is actually a blog, i wouldn't trust it word for word
better source:
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2014278/Jailed-footballers-freed-judges-rape-appeal-say-girls-12-wanted-sex.html?ito=feeds-newsxml[/url][/QUOTE]
i'd trust blogs over the daily mail
Still the same story
"Both girls had told the men they were 16 and had put fake ages on their Facebook accounts."
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;31303457]"Hello, before I penetrate you, I would like to see a state issued form of identification"
[img]http://dirtsquadblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/forever-alone-big-500x584.png[/img][/QUOTE]
haha! very funny meme! hehehe the best part is it's in a thread about children being fucked by adults! hehehe!
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;31303494]haha! very funny meme! hehehe the best part is it's in a thread about children being fucked by adults! hehehe![/QUOTE]
do you even have an argument
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;31303494]haha! very funny meme! hehehe the best part is it's in a thread about children being fucked by adults! hehehe![/QUOTE]
You can keep acting right and keep going, rating everyone dumb in the process or you can just stop. I'll admit, it isn't a funny situation but seriously that's what you're telling me to do when it comes to my sex life.
[QUOTE=Mon;31303501]do you even have an argument[/QUOTE]
yes, my argument is that grown men had sex with 12 year olds and that is against the law
[editline]24th July 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;31303502]You can keep acting right and keep going, rating everyone dumb in the process or you can just stop.[/QUOTE]
ok, and you can keep posting hilarious epic memes
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;31303505]yes, my argument is that grown men had sex with 12 year olds and that is against the law
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No question about that, no one is arguing that. We are arguing that if the girls lie, they have it on Facebook and everything, that they shouldn't be able to claim statutory rape.
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;31303515]No question about that, no one is arguing that. We are arguing that if the girls lie, they have it on Facebook and everything, that they shouldn't be able to claim statutory rape.[/QUOTE]
why can't they claim statutory rape? statutory rape is sex between an adult and someone who is not old enough to consent, which is exactly the case here.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;31303522]why can't they claim statutory rape? statutory rape is sex between an adult and someone who is not old enough to consent, which is exactly the case here.[/QUOTE]
They lied. The guys had no reason to doubt it. If you really want to get technical, Facebook can be used in court as evidence and they faked their age.
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;31303488]
"Both girls had told the men they were 16 and had put fake ages on their Facebook accounts."[/QUOTE]
that doesn't change anything. the only reason the judge is here in the first place is to wonder on the accused's sense of judgement, so they don't re-offend in the future
that's what you should start thinking about.
[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;31303531]They lied. The guys had no reason to doubt it. If you really want to get technical, Facebook can be used in court as evidence and they faked their age.[/QUOTE]
they still committed a crime.
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