[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;42108309]You can't censor the internet. It's impossible. Only a tech illiterate ignoramus like Tony Abbott would even consider trying to do this.[/QUOTE]
Firstly: ask China
Secondly: It was Labors idea to begin with, one of their ideas I agree with.
[QUOTE=abcpea;42108325]the nbn is not going to be cancelled[/QUOTE]
Yeah, only being monumentally downgraded!
[QUOTE=UltraSamurai;42108326]Firstly: ask China
Secondly: It was Labors idea to begin with, one of their ideas I agree with.[/QUOTE]
As we all know, we should definitely follow China as an example of how to run things.
[QUOTE=UltraSamurai;42108326]Firstly: ask China
Secondly: It was Labors idea to begin with, one of their ideas I agree with.[/QUOTE]
Why the fuck would you agree with a filter?
[QUOTE=abcpea;42108325]the nbn is not going to be cancelled[/QUOTE]
I presume that what has already rolled out will stay where it is, but what of districts where the NBN hasn't been put in yet? Will that be fiber to the house? Or Abbott's fiber to the node?
[QUOTE=Dubious George;42108321]damage?
you mean the tiny debt we have with a decently moving economy, the nbn which [i]would[/i] have set us with one of the fastest internet speeds in the world and the move towards equal rights for gay couples?
Infact, the only thing I dislike about labour was their really shitty knee-jerk asylum seeker policy, I'm not really seeing any "damage".[/QUOTE]
its not a little debt its 350 + billion dollars by no means little, the nbn would have put us more in debt and does Kevin really care about gay couples, if he did he would have proposed this before the election has came up, he was desperate for a extra few votes that's it and honestly how big of a fucking deal is a piece of paper, isnt love for another person the human compassion between love enough ? not just marriage under a religion etc which does not support homosexuality.
[QUOTE=UltraSamurai;42108326]Firstly: ask China
Secondly: It was Labors idea to begin with, one of their ideas I agree with.[/QUOTE]
Firstly: ask a non-communist country (USA).
Well, that didn't go well.
[url=http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/election-2013/libs-in-backdown-on-web-filter/story-fn9qr68y-1226712655113]To put the filter thing to rest.[/url]
And as far as I can recall, Conroy was the one who pushed for the filter first unless there was some intention further back which I missed out on.
[QUOTE=cartman;42108322]yes because a video by a bogan is proof.[/QUOTE]
Yes, because your bogan posts are proof.
[QUOTE=Dubious George;42108339]I presume that what has already rolled out will stay where it is, but what of districts where the NBN hasn't been put in yet? Will that be fiber to the house? Or Abbott's fiber to the node?[/QUOTE]
FTTN unless something changes, but keep in mind that's still 80-100Mbps with VDSL, even with ADSL2+ that's basically guaranteeing 24Mbps across the board.
Nowhere near as good as the 100Mbps-1Gbps the FTTH NBN promises, but it's still a huge improvement over our current system.
[QUOTE=cartman;42108341]its not a little debt its 350 + billion dollars by no means little, the nbn would have put us more in debt and does Kevin really care about gay couples, if he did he would have proposed this before the election has came up, he was desperate for a extra few votes that's it and honestly how big of a fucking deal is a piece of paper, isnt love for another person the human compassion between love enough ? not just marriage under a religion etc which does not support homosexuality.[/QUOTE]
debt's fucking tiny compared to most 1st world nations and a piece of paper means a lot considering the federal tax benefits and legal implications it comes with, but I can see that you're not gonna be convinced of my opinion, and I not of yours, so whatever dude.
[QUOTE=cartman;42108341]its not a little debt its 350 + billion dollars by no means little, the nbn would have put us more in debt and does Kevin really care about gay couples, if he did he would have proposed this before the election has came up, he was desperate for a extra few votes that's it and honestly how big of a fucking deal is a piece of paper, isnt love for another person the human compassion between love enough ? not just marriage under a religion etc which does not support homosexuality.[/QUOTE]
Did you pull those random statistics out of your ass? Also, the USA is over $59 trillion in debt.
[QUOTE=cartman;42108341]its not a little debt its 350 + billion dollars by no means little, the nbn would have put us more in debt and does Kevin really care about gay couples, if he did he would have proposed this before the election has came up, he was desperate for a extra few votes that's it and honestly how big of a fucking deal is a piece of paper, isnt love for another person the human compassion between love enough ? not just marriage under a religion etc which does not support homosexuality.[/QUOTE]
Because being married gives the couple legal benefits etc. But a gay couple can't do that because they are unable to get married. Correct me if I am wrong, but that is my understanding.
[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;42108363]FTTN unless something changes, but keep in mind that's still 80-100Mbps with VDSL, even with ADSL2+ that's basically guaranteeing 24Mbps across the board.
Nowhere near as good as the 100Mbps-1Gbps the FTTH NBN promises, but it's still a huge improvement over our current system.[/QUOTE]
Compare that to Europe and we are a laughing stock.
[QUOTE=Dubious George;42108370]debt's fucking tiny compared to most 1st world nations and a piece of paper means a lot considering the federal tax benefits and legal implications it comes with, but I can see that you're not gonna be convinced of my opinion, and I not of yours, so whatever dude.[/QUOTE]
so you only want to get married for free money, typical labour.
[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;42108363]FTTN unless something changes, but keep in mind that's still 80-100Mbps with VDSL, even with ADSL2+ that's basically guaranteeing 24Mbps across the board.
Nowhere near as good as the 100Mbps-1Gbps the FTTH NBN promises, but it's still a huge improvement over our current system.[/QUOTE]
I've had a 100Mbps cable connection for years. Unfortunately the speed is 100 down 1.5 up so I get mega slow uploads.
I'd rather have FTTH to be honest.
[QUOTE=reevezy67;42108383]Compare that to Europe and we are a laughing stock.[/QUOTE]
European country's have higher population and less land to cover, thus its more smart to put fibre optics throughout their country and much cheaper due to that.
i personally currently get 800 KB'S and that's plenty to be honest for me, 2MB's a second would be plenty tbh.
[QUOTE=cartman;42108341]its not a little debt its 350 + billion dollars by no means little, the nbn would have put us more in debt and does Kevin really care about gay couples, if he did he would have proposed this before the election has came up, he was desperate for a extra few votes that's it and honestly how big of a fucking deal is a piece of paper, isnt love for another person the human compassion between love enough ? not just marriage under a religion etc which does not support homosexuality.[/QUOTE]
Debts only 220b and the government deals with numbers in the billions on a daily basis, just because it's big for you doesn't mean it's big for them.
The NBN is an infrastructure investment that'll have to be done sooner or later and be far more expensive to pick up the upgrades the Libs dropped later on. Horrible economic policy to put off costs now for a greater cost later, unless you can blame it on someone else as the Libs obviously will.
Gay marriage might be a ploy but it's better than saying fuck that and voting for someone who despite everyone else telling him to support it overrules them because he's a dumbfuck.
[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;42108363]FTTN unless something changes, but keep in mind that's still 80-100Mbps with VDSL, even with ADSL2+ that's basically guaranteeing 24Mbps across the board.
Nowhere near as good as the 100Mbps-1Gbps the FTTH NBN promises, but it's still a huge improvement over our current system.[/QUOTE]
It's still a shame considering that the NBN would've set us up for decades to come as a nation in terms of infrastructure, but with Abbott's internet you might have well just not bothered, because it doesn't actually upgrade enough for it to "solve" anything. (Of course, people who already have the NBN will keep it which is a decent amount of people, and fiber to the node is still pretty good and can be easily upgraded from node-to-house far later down the line. It only really answers half the question that labor wanted to answer completely, if that makes sense).
[QUOTE=cartman;42108394]i personally currently get 800 KB'S and that's plenty to be honest for me, 2MB's a second would be plenty tbh.[/QUOTE]
Personally I'm sick of getting overcharged for shit internet speeds.
Gay marriage is just the fashion of the present and its pointless putting in fibre optics now, 10 years ago it would be good but now the technological advances will trump it soon.
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[QUOTE=cartman;42108341]its not a little debt its 350 + billion dollars by no means little, the nbn would have put us more in debt and does Kevin really care about gay couples, if he did he would have proposed this before the election has came up, he was desperate for a extra few votes that's it and honestly how big of a fucking deal is a piece of paper, isnt love for another person the human compassion between love enough ? not just marriage under a religion etc which does not support homosexuality.[/QUOTE]
he wrote about his support for gay marriage months ago before he became pm again
[QUOTE=K1ngo64;42108386]I've had a 100Mbps cable connection for years. Unfortunately the speed is 100 down 1.5 up so I get mega slow uploads.
I'd rather have FTTH to be honest.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the main benefit with the NBN is that it was synchronous, Internode offers 23/2 ADSL2+ for their users, and that's pretty much the best you'll get with ADSL.
[QUOTE=cartman;42108407]Gay marriage is just the fashion of the present and its pointless putting in fibre optics now, 10 years ago it would be good but now the technological advances will trump it soon.[/QUOTE]
So why are we wasting money putting more copperwire cables in?
[QUOTE=cartman;42108394]European country's have higher population and less land to cover, thus its more smart to put fibre optics throughout their country and much cheaper due to that.
i personally currently get 800 KB'S and that's plenty to be honest for me, 2MB's a second would be plenty tbh.[/QUOTE]
We have the money to compete with Europe so why not do it? Lots of businesses would thrive off of 100Mbps connections where 24 is not enough.
That goes double for schools, the amount of school funding that goes toward large connections to support all the students is ridiculous. Imagine if that school funding could be put to better use.
[QUOTE=cartman;42108407]Gay marriage is just the fashion of the present and its pointless putting in fibre optics now, 10 years ago it would be good but now the technological advances will trump it soon.[/QUOTE]
yep we'll be trumping the speed of light any day now
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;42108412]he wrote about his support for gay marriage months ago before he became pm again[/QUOTE]
then why didn't he implement this gay marriage months ago.
[QUOTE=cartman;42108341][b]the nbn would have put us more in debt[/b][/QUOTE]
Not to burst your bubble sport, but no matter what government the NBN is put under it would still cost a shitload of money. Nature of the beast and all. But in the end, worth it for the long term beneficial reasons.
[QUOTE=cartman;42108407]Gay marriage is just the fashion of the present and its pointless putting in fibre optics now, 10 years ago it would be good but now the technological advances will trump it soon.[/QUOTE]
Gay shit is something that's just gonna grow in support and you basing fibre optic getting trumped soon enough is something surprisingly ambitious to pull out of your ass. Gonna take a guess that you have no idea what you're talking about but any excuse for why the Libs are right is good.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;42108420]So why are we wasting money putting more copperwire cables in?[/QUOTE]
still less money than labours nbn
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