Swordsman goes on stabbing spree at Swedish school, shot by police
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[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;48958294]There is no justifiable reason to go out with a sword or any weapon and start hurting others.
Anybody can go " Oh, I'm gonna do this terrible thing because I think I'm right " but how right can a person be who literally causes so much grief and misery to so many people just because they feel bad[/QUOTE]The thing is, what you consider justifiable does not matter to them. In their mind, they are not wrong. No one is trying to justify murder. But to them their reasons are justified and they act upon it. Why it's justified to them also depends on a whole sea of potential causes.
[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;48958294][B]There is no justifiable reason[/B] to go out with a sword or any weapon and start hurting others.
Anybody can go " Oh, I'm gonna do this terrible thing because I think I'm right " but how right can a person be who literally causes so much grief and misery to so many people just because they feel bad[/QUOTE]
Just stop, this argument is a lost cause.
Different people see the world differently. Some will easily find a justifiable reason (e.g. "I'm being bullied"), and others may not NEED a justifiable reason.
Right and wrong is relative, but nobody in this thread is on the stabbers side.
Geez, that's fucking nuts
[editline]22nd October 2015[/editline]
Do we know a motive?
[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;48958358]If you're prepared to die in an attack like this, shouldn't you just cut out the middle part of the whole process, be a man and just off yourself[/QUOTE]
If your goal is to kill others, no? That's a stupid idea. Mass murders/shootings are not done as a way to suicide, suicide/death is just part of the whole ordeal. It's like saying you want money, why not cut the middleman and instead of working for it, just steal it?
[quote]Picture of the killer, taken by one of the students who left the classroom in order to get a pencil. In the corridor she met to friends who was posing with the man who was holding a bloody knife.
[quote]He was playing wierd music and didn't say a word. It was scary music, kind of like Halloween-music.[/quote]
Her friends thought that he was just joking around and they wanted to get photographed with him.[/quote]
[img]http://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/21630279/171/normal/624e80005f385/skolmordaren.jpg[/img]
[editline]22nd October 2015[/editline]
That looks more like Wehrmacht helmet than a Darth Vader helmet.
[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;48958399]A lot of people already do that, but that doesn't make it right[/QUOTE]
People who do that do not care if it's right or not, obviously.
Its really sad to see things like these happening. One wonders if the media just didnt report on them earlier or if the rise in violence is something recent, counting grenade attacks against police & shootings against apartments etc.
On another note though:
[QUOTE]If you're prepared to die in an attack like this, shouldn't you just cut out the middle part of the whole process, be a man and just off yourself [/QUOTE]
A bit off topic, but "being a man & just off yourself" isnt really a good way to express it. Just saying.
Rumors are circulating that this is his youtube account on /r9k/
[url]https://www.youtube.com/user/HiphopDestroyer666/feed[/url]
[url]http://boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/23594188[/url]
[url]http://d3.dn-static.se/UploadedImages/2015/10/22/a4b2c3e5-f86f-4103-b83d-b33a8f43b4e1/original.jpg?id=1345223[/url]
higher resolution image of the perp, the weapon is a one handed sword or hand-and-a-half sword.
4chan found his facebook profile and shit
Apparently he is that typical edgy white neo nazi kid with no actual friends
[editline]22nd October 2015[/editline]
The perpetrator has died from his wounds
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;48958525][url]http://d3.dn-static.se/UploadedImages/2015/10/22/a4b2c3e5-f86f-4103-b83d-b33a8f43b4e1/original.jpg?id=1345223[/url]
higher resolution image of the perp, the weapon is a one handed sword or hand-and-a-half sword.[/QUOTE]
So a Wehrmacht helmet and a mesh airsoft mask?
[QUOTE=ScumBunny;48958563]So a Wehrmacht helmet and a mesh airsoft mask?[/QUOTE]
Yep, that too.
I heard a rumour that he only attacked once a teachers assistant (first victim) tried to take off his mask, maybe he got too close El Autismo's personal space.
[QUOTE=Zovox;48958526]4chan found his facebook profile and shit
Apparently he is that typical edgy white neo nazi kid with no actual friends
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/kLGYVJi.jpg[/IMG]
You see Ivan, when wield sword like me, you remove minority from country
Imagine what would have happened if he had a gun.
The killers brother is getting tons of hate on his facebook apparently
poor guy
[QUOTE=Zovox;48958840]The killers brother is getting tons of hate on his facebook apparently
poor guy[/QUOTE]
Reports that he was beaten is also circulating, as well as several other swedes being attacked because of this.
[QUOTE=The fox;48958854]Reports that he was beaten is also circulating, as well as several other swedes being attacked because of this.[/QUOTE]
Ok? from?
[QUOTE=Bucketboy;48958972]Ok? from?[/QUOTE]
The immigrants, obviously.
[QUOTE=Bucketboy;48958972]Ok? from?[/QUOTE]
From what? Word is circulating amongst people who are friends with his brother that he was beaten by immigrants. As well as sporadic reports coming in that immigrants have also attacked two others.
Imagine how the two people who posed with him are feeling, having no idea what he was about to do.
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;48959049]Imagine how the two people who posed with him are feeling, having no idea what he was about to do.[/QUOTE]
Supposedly the picture was taken after he stabbed a person in the school yard.
[QUOTE=The fox;48958998]From what? Word is circulating amongst people who are friends with his brother that he was beaten by immigrants. As well as sporadic reports coming in that immigrants have also attacked two others.[/QUOTE]
Article about a mad neo nazi murderer.
"bloody immigrants"
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;48958525][url]http://d3.dn-static.se/UploadedImages/2015/10/22/a4b2c3e5-f86f-4103-b83d-b33a8f43b4e1/original.jpg?id=1345223[/url]
higher resolution image of the perp, the weapon is a one handed sword or hand-and-a-half sword.[/QUOTE]
Eerie, reminds me of that photo of people standing next to the Omagh car bomb shortly before it exploded.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;48959056]Article about a mad neo nazi murderer.
"bloody immigrants"[/QUOTE]
Where have you found he was a neo nazi? Maybe you should stop assuming things.
Besides, two wrongs don't make a right, so you can be sure i'll call out morons who assault innocent people.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;48959056]Article about a mad neo nazi murderer.
"bloody immigrants"[/QUOTE]
I thought it's important to recognize what causes people to do these sorts of things.
And what apparently spurred him to attack an immigrant-majority school was bad experiences with immigrants.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;48959096]I thought it's important to recognize what causes people to do these sorts of things.
And what apparently spurred him to attack an immigrant-majority school was bad experiences with immigrants.[/QUOTE]
I think what spurred him to attack and murder people was some mental instability. Possibly blaming problems and challenges which he's faced in his life on an easily identifiable group of people. Will be interesting to see if he has any kind of history of issues or to see how he acted in school. Not to be insensitive but fiver says he was a bit of a loner.
@ fox the neo nazi thing was taken from the post regarding 4chan threads above. If its the same guy, which is likely, he is a deeply troubled guy.
[QUOTE=The fox;48958998]From what? Word is circulating amongst people who are friends with his brother that he was beaten by immigrants. As well as sporadic reports coming in that immigrants have also attacked two others.[/QUOTE]
Source´?
[editline]22nd October 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=The fox;48959070]Where have you found he was a neo nazi? Maybe you should stop assuming things.
Besides, two wrongs don't make a right, so you can be sure i'll call out morons who assault innocent people.[/QUOTE]
He may have not have been a neo-nazi, but his channel suggest he idolized Nazism. He's subscribed to people that talks about preparing for a "multicultural war" and similar topics. Either way I don't see much relevancy as I don't think his attack were motivated by hate for immigrants etc... right?
More info in Swedish here: [url]https://www.flashback.org/t2637903[/url]
[QUOTE=The fox;48959070]Where have you found he was a neo nazi? Maybe you should stop assuming things.
Besides, two wrongs don't make a right, so you can be sure i'll call out morons who assault innocent people.[/QUOTE]
He liked a big bunch of nazi related videos on his youtube and apparently him and (or at least) his brothers are SD's
[QUOTE=Zovox;48959258]He liked a big bunch of nazi related videos on his youtube and apparently him and (or at least) his brothers are [B]SD's[/B][/QUOTE]
Oh boy
[QUOTE=proch;48958095]well we know where this thread is going don't we[/QUOTE]
ban swords
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