Is this it? Rebels continue to intensify 'all-out assault' on Damascus, as regime deploys tanks, hel
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Or just pure chance that the uprising went that way because look at London, a few people started a riot and everyone joins in. A few people might of rose up and everyone joined in for freedom, it doesn't HAVE to be an act of desperation or cockyness.
[QUOTE=OvB;36813758]A recent Syrian defector "Syria's ex-ambassador to Iraq, the most senior politician so far to defect to the Opposition" says they have chemical weapons and will use them if they have to.
[url]http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3547963.htm[/url]
[editline]17th July 2012[/editline]
Same guy:
[url]http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/07/16/156878129/syrian-defector-regime-will-only-go-by-force[/url]
Another interview by CNN: [url]http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/16/highest-ranking-syrian-defector-talks-to-cnns-ivan-watson/[/url][/QUOTE]
He also states that this information is uncomfirmed. For me it would be illogical to assume that they actually have chemical weapons just because western media potrays it that way. And even if they had these weapons. Using them would be the most idiotic move ever, since the entire world is watching. It would only favor their own enemies.
This war is not fought with normal weapons. The weapons used in the real fight comes in the form of biased information. Our opinions surrounding this conflict are more important then bullets.
[QUOTE=OvB;36813758]A recent Syrian defector "Syria's ex-ambassador to Iraq, the most senior politician so far to defect to the Opposition" says they have chemical weapons and will use them if they have to.
[url]http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3547963.htm[/url]
[editline]17th July 2012[/editline]
Same guy:
[url]http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/07/16/156878129/syrian-defector-regime-will-only-go-by-force[/url]
Another interview by CNN: [url]http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/16/highest-ranking-syrian-defector-talks-to-cnns-ivan-watson/[/url][/QUOTE]
I remember reading something in New Scientist a few months ago about this. They were more worried about rebels or outside parties using them or accidently releasing them though .
The regime has [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18876843]finally responded[/url] to the Damascus uprising! What did they say? They denied that it was even happening :downs:
[QUOTE=smurfy;36816646]The regime has [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18876843]finally responded[/url] to the Damascus uprising! What did they say? They denied that it was even happening :downs:[/QUOTE]
Well, I'm sure the Information Minister would know. Because that's not a dodgy as hell title or anything.
I hope this is a sign that he's following the examples of Comical Ali
[QUOTE=Stalk;36816532]He also states that this information is uncomfirmed. For me it would be illogical to assume that they actually have chemical weapons just because western media potrays it that way. And even if they had these weapons. Using them would be the most idiotic move ever, since the entire world is watching. It would only favor their own enemies.
This war is not fought with normal weapons. The weapons used in the real fight comes in the form of biased information. Our opinions surrounding this conflict are more important then bullets.[/QUOTE]
He says the use of them in Homs was unconfirmed. I thought it was pretty common knowledge they that they have chemical weapons. I have yet to hear anything that states the contrary.
[QUOTE=Webby2020;36809980]Without outside help I think the rebels won't last long.
We really don't know how they can do. Do they have defected military like in Libya? How much supplies do they have?
For all we know its an armed mob trying to fight a professional army.
I'm rooting for the rebels but honestly it doesn't look good.[/QUOTE]
An armed mob can defeat a professional army providing the armed mob has the support of the civilian population. Revolutions are not purely won on the battlefields, but in the hearts and minds of the people. If the regime is deemed illegitimate by a large section of the population, then that regime will crumble.
Now, outside help surely wouldn't [i]hurt[/i] the rebels, but it isn't purely about equipment or discipline.
In before Assad takes a tip from Saddam and gases his own people.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;36818651]In before Assad takes a tip from Saddam and gases his own people.[/QUOTE]
Were I a praying man, this is where the prayer would start. Chemical weaponry is an abomination, Assad using it...it's down right unforgivable. A true crime against humanity. If the Russians and Chinese still stand behind the Syrian government or block western intervention then, I can personally say I'll have a new grudge harbored against both of those backwards ass governments.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;36819575]Were I a praying man, this is where the prayer would start. Chemical weaponry is an abomination, Assad using it...it's down right unforgivable. A true crime against humanity. If the Russians and Chinese still stand behind the Syrian government or block western intervention then, I can personally say I'll have a new grudge harbored against both of those backwards ass governments.[/QUOTE]
I could see him doing it if the rebellion isn't crushed by conventional means. He's bought Russia with lucrative arms contracts to make sure they'll keep the UN from lifting a finger. When he's in a corner with pissed off rebels knocking at his door and no shelter to be found elsewhere in the world, I could see him playing his last available card. It's not that big of a jump from ordering snipers to indiscriminately murder protesters in the streets.
We like to think our society is beyond things like chemical weapons or nukes, but we aren't. The Iran/Iraq war with it's trenches and nerve gas and children running across minefields wasn't [i]that[/i] long ago. Mubarak tried to quell the riots with gangs of protesters, and Gadhaffi launched a civil war but didn't count on Western intervention. Assad has been given a license by Russia to do whatever he thinks is necessary to defend his regime, with no consequences.
For the rebellion's sake I hope there is outside intervention, or they get put down by conventional means in short order. If they get close to winning but have no outside backup, very bad things could happen.
WHO THE FUCK GAVE THE GOVERNMENT ALL THIS GODDAMNED MONEY
[QUOTE=prooboo;36819774]WHO THE FUCK GAVE THE GOVERNMENT ALL THIS GODDAMNED MONEY[/QUOTE]
You mean Syria's government? There are lots of money sources other than the obvious taxes; state-run companies, for example. The government owns lots of big businesses from whose profits can line the pockets of both the state and individual state officials.
[QUOTE=Disotrtion;36810215]Wait, so AQ is on both sides, gov't and opposition?[/QUOTE]
AQ is just an excuse for sides to get support.
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