Death Star Costs more than 800 000 years steel production.
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It never made any sense to me that they would make a spherical base, like, what advantage could that have? And it would be so much cheaper if it wasn't spherical.
[QUOTE=VaSTinY;34850932]Ooo, is there a Wookieepedia/other Star Wars wiki article on this? I've read to much about the Empire's other superweapons but I haven't came across anything like that[/QUOTE]
Note though that I summarized them to the extreme, they're so badass that they actually build onto themselves using the resources they take
[URL="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/World_Devastator"]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/World_Devastator[/URL]
They even build ships and weapons [i]inside of themselves[/I] and launch them directly into battle
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[QUOTE=samframpton;34850978]It never made any sense to me that they would make a spherical base, like, what advantage could that have? And it would be so much cheaper if it wasn't spherical.[/QUOTE]
Well, if you wanted to go beyond the fact that it's a movie and was designed to look cool, in real life you could make your base spherical so that when you spin it you simulate gravity (though the pull is towards the outside)
I think this very fitting on how the Death Star was constructed.
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[QUOTE=zenhorse;34851013]I think this very fitting on how the Death Star was constructed.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQdDRrcAOjA&feature=related[/media][/QUOTE]
This is a really good point, though if the second was built anything like the first then they entirely used slave labor
the first was built with slave labor (notably nonhumans like wookies)
800,000 years?
Damn unions.
I wonder how much it will cost if you count all the space-tech too :v:
It's kind of weird, because building such large objects like the death star would require you to take into consideration the gravitational field created by the massive thing, and design your material and structre accordingly- The structure on the outside would have to sustain more stress than the one on the inside, as you go towards the core there's different forces coming from the gravitation caused by other structures in the death star etc. It's pretty fucking cool if you think about it.
Curious as to why people are rating my original post dumb. Dura Steel is a fictional alloy that has nothing in common with real-world Steel, aside from being carbon based as is virtually everything in existance.
Anyway. The people who do those calculations have far too much time on their hands.
[QUOTE=Chickens!;34850183]Holy shit[/QUOTE]
They're probably taking in the Iron content of the inner + outer core which is basically an immensly compacted iron/nickel alloy, so that doesn't suprise me.
So is there a progress bar that shows how far we're off having the cash to build one?
Does this not count in the fact that that there's multiple planets, races, robots, and minerals free for use in the Star Wars land?
Steel for a super-advanced futuristic spacecraft. Yeah, allright.
What if an alien race ran out of materials for the death star they were making, and came to earth and stole our resources?
Those bastards wouldn't even dare touching my resources.
[QUOTE=Gishank;34851778]Curious as to why people are rating my original post dumb. Dura Steel is a fictional alloy that has nothing in common with real-world Steel, aside from [b]being carbon based as is virtually everything in existance.[/b]
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Eh?
[QUOTE=CatFodder;34852593]Eh?[/QUOTE]
Hydrogen is just carbon wearing a mask.
[QUOTE=Chickens!;34850183]Holy shit[/QUOTE]
There are a lot of heavy metals on earth, which is also why our gravity as heavy as it is. Our planet is small but we have lots of mass.
So the empire spends shit tons of money and probably years and years of manpower and resources on a FUCK TON of planets to build this thing (Twice) and the Rebel Alliance blows it up (Twice)
Fucking terrorists
The empire is made up of thousands of star systems each holding dozens of planets that have economies ten times as large as all of the Human economies combined. A single Death Star wouldn't be that hard to build. But the point of the study was to find out how much it would take from Earth only, so it's still relevant.
[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;34850984]Note though that I summarized them to the extreme, they're so badass that they actually build onto themselves using the resources they take
[URL="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/World_Devastator"]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/World_Devastator[/URL]
They even build ships and weapons [i]inside of themselves[/I] and launch them directly into battle[/QUOTE]
Oooooooh I remember those from the good old Rogue Squadron game :dance:
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34850337]And the deathstar can also destroy entire planets. Go calculate how much energy is needed to do that.[/QUOTE]
Death Star's reactor is basically a miniature sun. Some of the books say its antimatter though, so I dunno which is correct.
[QUOTE=Kuro.;34858062]Death Star's reactor is basically a miniature sun. Some of the books say its antimatter though, so I dunno which is correct.[/QUOTE]
Well according to Wookieepedia it's hypermatter, and I'm just gonna assume they're right
[quote=Wookieepedia] At the heart of each Death Star was a gigantic hypermatter reactor, which possessed an output equal to that of several main-sequence stars. Within this chamber burned a reaction of prodigious proportions, fed by stellar fuel bottles lining its periphery.[/quote]
Don't care about the Death Star, just tell me when I can get my Tardis.
um I have a question
why would you spend your time doing this?
Waitwaitwait, We can make 2 billion deathstars from the iron on earth?
Why aren't we making cars fueled by iron?
[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;34859527]Waitwaitwait, We can make 2 billion deathstars from the iron on earth?
Why aren't we making cars fueled by iron?[/QUOTE]
Because with American consumption we'd spend it all in a week.
[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;34859527]Waitwaitwait, We can make 2 billion deathstars from the iron on earth?
Why aren't we making cars fueled by iron?[/QUOTE]
Cause somehow getting energy from Iron wouldn't work on that scale cause you'd have to do some weird shit that I'm not even sure is physically possible.
I mean it's not radioactively unstable so you can't use it for fission, and it's the end product of fusion so you're fucked there.
I think if you made a metal-air battery that sort of thing could work.
[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;34859527]Waitwaitwait, We can make 2 billion deathstars from the iron on earth?
Why aren't we making cars fueled by iron?[/QUOTE]
Most of that metal is in the mantle and the core, not the crust.
[QUOTE=Gishank;34850200]The Deathstar isn't made out of steel itself, it is made out of a starwars fictional alloy... Besides, in Star Wars the Emperor has a Galactic Empire, with slaves, with robots, etc... >_>[/QUOTE]
They also have The Force. Doubt it came into play during construction of the Death Star but there you go.
Well GET ON WITH IT THEN.
I think we should build all 2 million of those and travel the universe with all but 20 of the 2 million. The other 20 would stay in our solar system to protect us from aliens.
How many people could fit in 2 million Death Stars?
Okay, so I did the math and you could fit about this many people:
63,245,926,000,000
63 trillion?
More than enough for our population to explode on and explore the universe with. And that's working off of the "gross underestimate," 31,622,963 number listed below. It's apparently supposed to be "thousand times the previously published estimates [(31,622,963)]. Each of these battle stations probably carried a few billion military personnel."
[quote]Death Stars: Population
The Death Stars are the greatest technological wonders of the STAR WARS galaxy. This page is examines their dimensions, structure, function and capabilities. It is a synthesis and conciliation of existing knowledge and also uses numerous illustrations and calculations to explore previously unknown aspects of the Death Star space stations.
Population
There are serious problems of scale with the figures for the crew and troop complements of the Death Stars as claimed by West End Games sources. Assuming their favourite personnel number estimates, and using their demonstrably erroneous diameters of merely 120km and 160km, the densities of humans on the surface of each battle station were about twenty-six and thirty-one per square kilometre, respectively. This assumes that all of the Death Star inhabitants lived on the same surface level. In fact we know that these battle stations contained at least several thousand floors, even if the habitable zone only extends from the upper few kilometres from the surface. If these Death Star population estimates were correct then either the corridors would be so empty that a chance encounter with a stormtrooper would be virtually impossible, or else habitation only covered a few isolated surface areas. If the battle station is inhabited in such a sparse or patchy fashion then it could be dangerously vulnerable to saboutage, or serious malfunctions could occur without being noticed. When we take physically realistic estimates for the sizes of the Death Stars, the population densities (again assuming only one storey) would drop to below one lonely human being per square kilometer!
The population of 31,622,963 postulated for the Death Star I in The Technical Book of Science Fiction Films is much more reasonable For the small size of the station assumed in this book, this means a surface density of crewman of 2217.46 / km². However the crew live and work on at least hundreds of layered decks throughout at least the top few kilometres of the the station's skin. Thus we still have problems with underpopulated corridors.
Realistic crew and troop populations for the Death Stars must be at least several thousand times the previously published estimates. Each of these battle stations probably carried a few billion military personnel. Given that the Galactic Empire is able to recruit from millions of worlds which typically have populations of billions, this is still only a miniscule fraction of the galaxy's total resources. It should be remembered that there exist totalitarian states on Earth where a substantial proportion of the total population is in military service. The Galactic Empire is probably a relatively under-militarised society by comparison.
It is noteworthy that almost all the gross underestimates of Death Star population are actually contained within documents authored by members of the Rebel Alliance [in ntrinsic terms within the STAR WARS universe]. The Movie Trilogy Sourcebook is written from the vantage of a rebel "historian" (retrospective propagandist) Voren Na'al. The Death Star Technical Companion seems to be a document aimed at rebel diplomats, officers and soldiers, at least according to hints like the appendix preamble on p.84. It is understandable that the propagandists of the Rebel Alliance and the New Republic might wish to belittle these intimidating accomplishments of Imperial military engineering, and to promulagte underestimates of the slaughter at Yavin, which a rational semi-quantitative analysis suggests to be comparable in magnitude to the holocaust at Alderaan.
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