• Calgary, Alberta's only fertility treatment centre prohibits the creation of interracial families
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[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;45523114] Just so you can say "Oh yeah Alberta's bad but look at this province! They're way worse!"[/QUOTE] Yes. That is all that matters. I live in the place and would vote for the NDP so you can Imagine what I generally think of its state of affairs.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;45526277]Yes. That is all that matters. I live in the place and would vote for the NDP so you can Imagine what I generally think of its state of affairs.[/QUOTE] Damn, I miss Jack Layton. Him and my dad died the same year. You know, you're all right in my book Rangergxi.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;45519881]When Quebec talks about secularism its mostly just about attacking Muslims and Sikhs. Laws that target the Kirpan and Veil but not the cross, etc. Not to mention the thing they have against black africans and english speakers.[/QUOTE] Have you been to Quebec before [editline]28th July 2014[/editline] It's just with how often I see you slandering quebec I'm legit curious how much time you've spent there
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;45527617]Have you been to Quebec before [editline]28th July 2014[/editline] It's just with how often I see you slandering quebec I'm legit curious how much time you've spent there[/QUOTE] Quebec City was a beautiful city, I'd love to go back there sometime, but I have a feeling that I'd be treated a lot differently since I wouldn't be going with an 8th grade school group. I'd actually feel a little bad going to Quebec knowing as little French as I do. If nothing else, I'd be able to understand when an angry Frenchman insults me if I spoke the language.
[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;45524134]Do they beat the shit out of anyone who doesn't know French?[/QUOTE] I can't tell if that's a joke or not, so I'm just going to answer the question: no. They basically monitor french language usage in public, usually in the context of business but any event or organization is subject to their retardation. [QUOTE=DaCommie1;45528766]Quebec City was a beautiful city, I'd love to go back there sometime, but I have a feeling that I'd be treated a lot differently since I wouldn't be going with an 8th grade school group. I'd actually feel a little bad going to Quebec knowing as little French as I do. If nothing else, I'd be able to understand when an angry Frenchman insults me if I spoke the language.[/QUOTE] As much as there is some racism and xenophobia in Quebec, most of the hate for the rest of Canada and for english speakers has died off since the referendums failed. Most Quebecois you talk to will tell you they're just tired of fighting this retarded english/french battle, but the government seems determined to continue it regardless. All that to say you'd more than likely be totally fine, especially because Quebec City is more of a tourist destination than anything else.
I don't know if it's just because I'm ignorant or I'm part of a new generation (maybe both) but I haven't witnessed any glaring form of discrimination in Québec. Perhaps it's just me but in my mind (from what I've experienced from my many travels across the country) Québec has always been as tolerant as the rest of Canada. We're just protective of our language and culture since long ago we had a history of being discriminated against by the primarily English government and we took measures to make sure that can never happen again. Again, I'm not impartial since I live there but there always seems to be this sentiment by people who haven't been in Québec for long that we discriminate against people not speaking French but every single person I know that primarily speaks English and lived in Québec for a few years have had no issue related to discrimination. At least none that you wouldn't also have if you were, say, a French speaker in Alberta.
[QUOTE=StrawberryClock;45530069]I don't know if it's just because I'm ignorant or I'm part of a new generation (maybe both) but I haven't witnessed any glaring form of discrimination in Québec. Perhaps it's just me but in my mind (from what I've experienced from my many travels across the country) Québec has always been as tolerant as the rest of Canada. We're just protective of our language and culture since long ago we had a history of being discriminated against by the primarily English government and we took measures to make sure that can never happen again. Again, I'm not impartial since I live there but there always seems to be this sentiment by people who haven't been in Québec for long that we discriminate against people not speaking French but every single person I know that primarily speaks English and lived in Québec for a few years have had no issue related to discrimination. At least none that you wouldn't also have if you were, say, a French speaker in Alberta.[/QUOTE] Most of the stories I've heard about linguistic discrimination in Quebec run very similarly. The person asks a question in English, the Quebecois pretends not to understand. The person then attempts to repeat the question in very shitty French. The Quebecois, in English, responds by making fun of them for how bad their French is and answers their question as condescendingly and insultingly as possible. Then there's the language police. That's a real problem. Bill 101 is atrocious. A store owner got fined because his "Back in 5 minutes" sign didn't have French 50% bigger than English on it.
Royal Canadian Air Farce had [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Sli10xGlg#t=3298"]an old skit about the language police[/URL]. Man, I loved this album. Not to get off-topic, but I didn't get the erection joke in [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Sli10xGlg#t=1918"]Doctors' Mutual Checkup[/URL] for like 10 years. I was young and innocent when I first heard it and didn't think about it for a good while.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;45530304]Most of the stories I've heard about linguistic discrimination in Quebec run very similarly. The person asks a question in English, the Quebecois pretends not to understand. The person then attempts to repeat the question in very shitty French. The Quebecois, in English, responds by making fun of them for how bad their French is and answers their question as condescendingly and insultingly as possible. Then there's the language police. That's a real problem. Bill 101 is atrocious. A store owner got fined because his "Back in 5 minutes" sign didn't have French 50% bigger than English on it.[/QUOTE] Again, perhaps my own experience isn't representative (and again I'm not unbiased) but those issues seems anecdotal at best. I don't know of ANYONE in the +100 people I know in Québec who would pretend not to understand an English speaker and everybody agrees it would a shitty thing to do. Even the staunchest proponents of bill 101 would agree that such a situation with the store owner would have been a completely ridiculous and overzealous application of the law, and I'm hard-pressed to believe that such a law has been somehow choking small business owners. Perhaps my own experiences completely contradicts what's actually going on and I'm just not looking hard enough but it's jarring to hear all these people not actually living in Québec commenting on stuff that just doesn't correlate with what I've heard and seen all in the 22 years I've lived here.
[QUOTE=SexualShark;45509696]this is actually creepy, it sounds like something out of a dystopian novel.[/QUOTE] Not entirely. Keep in mind they have nothing about rainbow families. If at least one of the "parents" is of the ethnicity in question, there's no problem. In some ways, particularly in Canada I can see this policy making sense in particular due to a sizeable native indian population and how a child which doesn't know both parents (in the case of a fertility clinic both parental units) will be often out of touch with one part of their supposed cultural identity. It's odd, but there is some sense behind it.
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