Deadmau5 Slams Madonna Over 'Molly,' Ecstasy Reference At Ultra Music Festival - Polidicks

lol what a fag having a cry about someone talking about drugs. man anti-drug pussies make me giggle. straight edgers really need to grow up.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;35312670]lol what a fag having a cry about someone talking about drugs. man anti-drug pussies make me giggle. straight edgers really need to grow up.[/QUOTE]I'm hoping that you are taking sarcasm to new heights.

[QUOTE=BCell;35312408]We can all agree that taking illegal drugs or abusing a legal drug when you're not sick is bad. Drugs are meant to treat ailments, not for recreational purposes or pleasure.[/QUOTE] Nope, can't agree with that.

[QUOTE=Paramud;35312598]If you honestly think anyone thought she was going to be recruiting people into drug use, you need to sober up and reread the article.[/QUOTE] If he's getting upset over her just saying it to be cool then he's an even bigger drama whore. I don't see why anybody cares.

[QUOTE=Valdor;35312701]If he's getting upset over her just saying it to be cool then he's an even bigger drama whore. I don't see why anybody cares.[/QUOTE] He's upset about her demeaning an entire genre fanbase into a stereotype of drug addicted party whores.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;35312689]I'm hoping that you are taking sarcasm to new heights.[/QUOTE] why because i'm not eating someones asshole because they are against drugs? the crowd that cheered her on clearly isn't against drugs so what's so bad about her talking about them? [editline]27th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Paramud;35312720]He's upset about her demeaning an entire genre fanbase into a stereotype of drug addicted party whores.[/QUOTE] so ultra music festival literally only has one genre of music? i mean they were watching madonna, maybe they were madonna fans who like drugs? how is she demeaning anyone? if anything it's this deadmau moron demeaning recreational drug users as though their choice of what to do with their own body is somehow bad.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;35312722]why because i'm not eating someones asshole because they are against drugs? the crowd that cheered her on clearly isn't against drugs so what's so bad about her talking about them?[/QUOTE] You're right! Just because of the positive reaction of one crowd it's completely okay for people to reinforce a broad, negative stereotype.

[QUOTE=Paramud;35312720]He's upset about her demeaning an entire genre fanbase into a stereotype of drug addicted party whores.[/QUOTE] uh that's still a terrible reason to get upset there's always a type of music that's going to be associated with drugs and everybody already knows that not everybody who likes that type of music is going to do drugs if you're going to reply again can you tell me why anybody cares?

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;35312722]why because i'm not eating someones asshole because they are against drugs? the crowd that cheered her on clearly isn't against drugs so what's so bad about her talking about them?[/QUOTE] apparently because Deadmau5 thinks it's setting a bad example for electronic dance music. but as a cynical electro-hipster i can't help but think if that is the case then Deadmau5 should apologize for his music because it also sets a bad example for electronic dance music with its uninspired boring tedious work. (i say work because listening to it feels like work) after that we can all go back and suck Autechre's dick for putting out the painfully underrated Oversteps.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;35312747]You're right! Just because of the positive reaction of one crowd it's completely okay for people to reinforce a broad, negative stereotype.[/QUOTE] how is she reinforcing anything? and why is it a negative stereotype? it's only negative if you make it so.

I have a feeling that people crying bloody murder about Madonna "reinforcing a negative stereotype" are the same type of people who unironically wear fedoras and think that you ~shouldn't have to take drugs to have a good time~

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;35312757]how is she reinforcing anything? and why is it a negative stereotype? it's only negative if you make it so.[/QUOTE] Ecstasy is illegal for a reason. When people start getting the idea that "Hey, even Madonna thinks it's cool", do you think drug use is going to go up, or down? [editline]26th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Sanius;35312784]I have a feeling that people crying bloody murder about Madonna "reinforcing a negative stereotype" are the same type of people who unironically wear fedoras and think that you ~shouldn't have to take drugs to have a good time~[/QUOTE] Yeah, like there's no middle ground between people who take drugs at EDM concerts and "people who unironically wear fedoras and think that you ~shouldn't have to take drugs to have a good time~".

[QUOTE=Protocol7;35312796]Ecstasy is illegal for a reason. When people start getting the idea that "Hey, even Madonna thinks it's cool", do you think drug use is going to go up, or down? [editline]26th March 2012[/editline] Yeah, like there's no middle ground between people who take drugs at EDM concerts and "people who unironically wear fedoras and think that you ~shouldn't have to take drugs to have a good time~".[/QUOTE] it's illegal because the government enjoys controlling what people do with their own bodies. don't even try to act like it's dangerous and bad because i'm pretty sure alot of these ravers drink alcohol too! not just ravers but virtually all people on earth and alcohol is way fucking worse than ecstasy but who cares most things are bad for you anyway. and lol, so what? if someones gonna take a drug it's their choice, if they're stupid enough to be influenced by madonna than whatever i think drugs aren't the problem there. the only vibe i'm getting here is you're anti-drugs (by which i mean anti-ILLEGAL drugs regardless of benefits) in which case you should really grow up. [editline]27th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Sanius;35312784]I have a feeling that people crying bloody murder about Madonna "reinforcing a negative stereotype" are the same type of people who unironically wear fedoras and think that you ~shouldn't have to take drugs to have a good time~[/QUOTE] people that wear fedoras are worse than meth users. not even being sarcastic.

I don't give a shit what someone else does with their body. But, like it or not, drug users have a bad rep about them and the more people associate EDM with drug users, the less likely they are going to associate with EDM. Deadmau5 doesn't want people to start associating his work with a social taboo, and when someone like Madonna comes in and says "Hey, drugs are cool" and completely goes against everything you've said on the same topic, you have every right to be unhappy. Do I think twitter/facebook statuses are going to really change anything? No. But in the end, Madonna can say what she wants to make the crowd go wild, and deadmau5 can get riled up because of a difference of opinion. I think they're both right in their own counts, but you can't dismiss the association of drug users and EDM as a potentially bad thing because while you may not see the problem in drug use, not everyone thinks the same way you do.

if association of drugs with a music genre was bad for that music genre then the only music we'd have left is christian rock. because even country music has alot of shit about drinking beer and smoking cigarettes.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;35312925]if association of drugs with a music genre was bad for that music genre then the only music we'd have left is christian rock. because even country music has alot of shit about drinking beer and smoking cigarettes.[/QUOTE] Beer and cigarettes aren't taboo, especially not the former. And association with taboos is just one singular factor in what makes genres popular and what doesn't. Country music is relatable, I prefer the drum patterns of dance music but also like the beautiful sound of a piano. So on and so forth. It's just not as bad as Deadmau5 wants to believe.

plus drugs in techno music existed long before Deadmau5 even imagined making music so where he gets the ego to become the world's EDM defender is beyond me.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;35312939]Beer and cigarettes aren't taboo, especially not the former.[/QUOTE] alright but that doesn't affect my point that virtually all music (except christian music) has been associated with drugs. if you like the music what do you care anyway? and if you like drugs what do you care? why doesn't deadmau5 come out with the message that 'you shouldn't care about what others think of you as long as you're happy' rather than the crybaby message of 'WAAAAH PEOPLE ARE GONNA ASSOCIATE MY MUSIC WITH DRUG USE WAAAAAH THAT'S BAD IT'S TABOO'

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;35312956]alright but that doesn't affect my point that virtually all music (except christian music) has been associated with drugs. if you like the music what do you care anyway? and if you like drugs what do you care? why doesn't deadmau5 come out with the message that 'you shouldn't care about what others think of you as long as you're happy' rather than the crybaby message of 'WAAAAH PEOPLE ARE GONNA ASSOCIATE MY MUSIC WITH DRUG USE WAAAAAH THAT'S BAD IT'S TABOO'[/QUOTE] no, you REALLY need to re-read the OP.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;35312956]alright but that doesn't affect my point that virtually all music (except christian music) has been associated with drugs. if you like the music what do you care anyway? and if you like drugs what do you care? why doesn't deadmau5 come out with the message that 'you shouldn't care about what others think of you as long as you're happy' rather than the crybaby message of 'WAAAAH PEOPLE ARE GONNA ASSOCIATE MY MUSIC WITH DRUG USE WAAAAAH THAT'S BAD IT'S TABOO'[/QUOTE] Well, that's a decision he has to justify, not me. Like I said, I don't particularly agree with his course of action. Association with taboos is not a huge deciding factor in how much someone enjoys a type of music. I mean, you are right, I just wanted to point out that people are blowing this way out of proportion (and seemingly failed.) It's also astonishing how many people expect the other 6.8 billion people in the world to think exactly like they do.

[QUOTE=thisispain;35312754]apparently because Deadmau5 thinks it's setting a bad example for electronic dance music. but as a cynical electro-hipster i can't help but think if that is the case then Deadmau5 should apologize for his music because it also sets a bad example for electronic dance music with its uninspired boring tedious work. (i say work because listening to it feels like work) after that we can all go back and suck Autechre's dick for putting out the painfully underrated Oversteps.[/QUOTE] Here we go. Thisispain is the same guy who thinks Deadmau5 just produces generic french house yet fails to recognise any of his songs that break the mold.

How is this bad? Nobody kicks up a fuss when the lead singer of tool asked who heres dropped acid tonight when I was at their concert.

[QUOTE=Hobo4President;35313049]Here we go. Thisispain is the same guy who thinks Deadmau5 just produces generic french house yet fails to recognise any of his songs that break the mold.[/QUOTE] no i think Deadmau5 over-uses the beat that was pretty much mastered by Daft Punk. and nothing i've heard of his could be classified as "breaking the mold" and we're talking about electronic music which has its mold constantly broken.

I just lost all respect for Deadmau5, not that I had much to begin with. How the fuck are you going to throw a tantrum over that? derp people do drugs at music events that makes me so mad. No shit, music and drugs are awesome together. Get the dick out of your mouth, bro. no respekk

I think I'll put this thread back on-topic and say that I'm currently watching the deadmau5 livestream, and this has been settled between deadmau5 and Madonna.

[QUOTE=thisispain;35312415]why not? if you wanna light up and enjoy yourself, or take some ecstasy more power to you. it's the harmful drugs that should be kept away from.[/QUOTE] I disagree. No drug, no matter how harmful, should be restricted from an otherwise law abiding adult. The argument for legalization is exactly the same as the one for legal abortion. It's my body, you have no right to tell me what I can do with it.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;35313240]I disagree. No drug, no matter how harmful, should be restricted from an otherwise law abiding adult. The argument for legalization is exactly the same as the one for legal abortion. It's my body, you have no right to tell me what I can do with it.[/QUOTE] well i wasn't talking about legalization i don't think any drug should be illegal. it's still a bad idea to take some drugs though, good example being heroin.

[QUOTE=thisispain;35313158]no i think Deadmau5 over-uses the beat that was pretty much mastered by Daft Punk. and nothing i've heard of his could be classified as "breaking the mold" and we're talking about electronic music which has its mold constantly broken.[/QUOTE] I'm not referring to creating a song that sounds like nothing ever done before, I'm saying that he consistently creates songs that don't fit into the "generic daft punk" mold. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyvuc_GjzfU[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOzc8w8ykU4[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8bC4claEeI[/media]

[QUOTE=thisispain;35313264]well i wasn't talking about legalization i don't think any drug should be illegal. it's still a bad idea to take some drugs though, good example being heroin.[/QUOTE] Ecstasy is more harmful than heroin in terms of damage done as it is neurotoxic. Literally the only bad thing about heroin is the addiction, it has has very little long term effects therefore your argument is a little bit silly. Although Im not saying that its a good idea to take heroin, and imagine everything I said was said in a friendly manner because it was. [editline]27th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Hobo4President;35313267]I'm not referring to creating a song that sounds like nothing ever done before, I'm saying that he consistently creates songs that don't fit into the "generic daft punk" mold. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyvuc_GjzfU[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOzc8w8ykU4[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8bC4claEeI[/media][/QUOTE] His songs still sound real generic though imo but this thread shouldnt be about his music.

[QUOTE=thisispain;35313264]well i wasn't talking about legalization i don't think any drug should be illegal. it's still a bad idea to take some drugs though, good example being heroin.[/QUOTE] I think it's wrong to abuse any drug. Heroin can be used recreationally, as can methamphetamines. The difference is that it takes a lot more caution with these drugs to avoid dependency problems, versus marijuana or ecstasy.