Deadmau5 Slams Madonna Over 'Molly,' Ecstasy Reference At Ultra Music Festival
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[QUOTE=yawmwen;35313297]I think it's wrong to abuse any drug. Heroin can be used recreationally, as can methamphetamines. The difference is that it takes a lot more caution with these drugs to avoid dependency problems, versus marijuana or ecstasy.[/QUOTE]
Why do you think its wrong to abuse any drug?
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;35313310]Why do you think its wrong to abuse any drug?[/QUOTE]
Well, in my opinion, the definition of the word abuse has something to do with it.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;35313310]Why do you think its wrong to abuse any drug?[/QUOTE]
i think by abuse he means use to the point where it's no longer recreational
[QUOTE=Hobo4President;35313267]mouse-shit[/QUOTE]
well if breaking the mold is "not using the kick-snare" pattern then sure but that's not really what i'd consider forwarding electronic music.
even take those three examples you posted, they are dull and cheesy taking old cliche's from the 90's and re-hashing them with harsher digital-grade compression.
and even worse, they don't even revel in the cheesiness to the point of being ostentatious and good for a laugh, instead just pretending to be "contemplative".
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAs2duUJpAk[/media]
far more interesting, yet cut along the same ilk.
[QUOTE=Paramud;35313322]Well, in my opinion, the definition of the word abuse has something to do with it.[/QUOTE]
Yea but when you are using drugs recreationally people use the word abuse as in if I were to take DXM recreationally but responsibly it would be considered abusing it but it wouldn't really be bad for me if you get what I'm saying?
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[QUOTE=Lachz0r;35313342]i think by abuse he means use to the point where it's no longer recreational[/QUOTE]
Ah ok well that I can agree with
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;35313310]Why do you think its wrong to abuse any drug?[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, I meant it's a bad idea to abuse any drug. Abusing implies a lack of respect for the potential danger of taking a drug. Binging on meth or injecting heroin would be abusing the drugs, because these activities are very likely to cause serious problems for the user.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35313351]I'm sorry, I meant it's a bad idea to abuse any drug. Abusing implies a lack of respect for the potential danger of taking a drug. Binging on meth or injecting heroin would be abusing the drugs, because these activities are very likely to cause serious problems for the user.[/QUOTE]
woohoo i was right
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;35313284]Ecstasy is more harmful than heroin in terms of damage done as it is neurotoxic. Literally the only bad thing about heroin is the addiction, it has has very little long term effects therefore your argument is a little bit silly.[/QUOTE]
both heroin and ecstasy affect the brain in a way that is harmful but the brain can heal itself over time.
in terms of risk heroin is far greater because of not only the addiction, but also the variety of diseases and danger that comes with consuming it.
Imagining him ranting through his costume is hilarious
[QUOTE=thisispain;35313345]well if breaking the mold is "not using the kick-snare" pattern then sure but that's not really what i'd consider forwarding electronic music.
even take those three examples you posted, they are dull and cheesy taking old cliche's from the 90's and re-hashing them with harsher digital-grade compression.
and even worse, they don't even revel in the cheesiness to the point of being ostentatious and good for a laugh, instead just pretending to be "contemplative".
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAs2duUJpAk[/media]
far more interesting, yet cut along the same ilk.[/QUOTE]
Bad melody, poor progression, poor synth work, repeating the exact same boring melody for 6 minutes with no movement, no thanks.
So many better songs by autechre you could have posted.
well you're entitled to your opinion about Autechre's works but i think mr. mau5 would disagree or else he wouldn't blatantly copy some of those old early 90's records.
ultimately my beef is with him not you.
[QUOTE=thisispain;35313393]both heroin and ecstasy affect the brain in a way that is harmful but the brain can heal itself over time.
in terms of risk heroin is far greater because of not only the addiction, but also the variety of diseases and danger that comes with consuming it.[/QUOTE]
"Like most opioids, unadulterated heroin does not cause many long-term complications other than dependence and constipation."
taken from wikipedia but I could get other sources if you wanted me too so if oyu had the funds heroin itself isn't really damaging. (I know this isn't the case but this is just what i was trying to explain in my previous post)
but MDMA has these long term effects
"Some studies show that MDMA may be neurotoxic in humans.[67][68] Other studies, however, suggest that any potential brain damage may be at least partially reversible following prolonged abstinence from MDMA.[66][69] Depression and deficits in memory have been shown to occur more frequently in long-term MDMA users."
Do you get what Im trying to say? Heroin doesn't affect the brain in a way that is harmful.
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[QUOTE=yawmwen;35313351]I'm sorry, I meant it's a bad idea to abuse any drug. Abusing implies a lack of respect for the potential danger of taking a drug. Binging on meth or injecting heroin would be abusing the drugs, because these activities are very likely to cause serious problems for the user.[/QUOTE]
Ah yup I read it in the wrong way. I also agree with this, I disagree with any irresponsible drug use, if you're going ot take a drug you should research it fully first and know what is safe to do and what isn't.
In Deadmau5 we shall remain!
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;35313437]"Like most opioids, unadulterated heroin does not cause many long-term complications other than dependence and constipation."
taken from wikipedia but I could get other sources if you wanted me too so if oyu had the funds heroin itself isn't really damaging. (I know this isn't the case but this is just what i was trying to explain in my previous post)
but MDMA has these long term effects
"Some studies show that MDMA may be neurotoxic in humans.[67][68] Other studies, however, suggest that any potential brain damage may be at least partially reversible following prolonged abstinence from MDMA.[66][69] Depression and deficits in memory have been shown to occur more frequently in long-term MDMA users."
Do you get what Im trying to say? Heroin doesn't affect the brain in a way that is harmful.
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Ah yup I read it in the wrong way. I also agree with this, I disagree with any irresponsible drug use, if you're going ot take a drug you should research it fully first and know what is safe to do and what isn't.[/QUOTE]
Thisispain is referring mostly to intravenous administration of heroin, which spreads a whole host of diseases if the needle is dirty. Also, most heroin is not "unadulterated", which means it often has contaminants that can be very toxic to the body.
Dependency is an issue in itself, because dependency isn't as simple as "omg i need to shoot up". Weight loss, tremors, seizures, hallucinations, and even death(albeit rarely) can happen from chemical dependency.
[QUOTE=Hobo4President;35313422]
So many better songs by autechre you could have posted.[/QUOTE]
well you should have inspired me with better deadmau5 songs!
[QUOTE=archangel125;35311518]Ecstasy pills often contain meth, which IS addictive, but pure MDMA and true LSD has no chemically addictive qualities.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't make it not addictive. It's the endorphins released that become addicted. That's why at some stage of your life or still you masturbate every second you can.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35313468]Thisispain is referring mostly to intravenous administration of heroin, which spreads a whole host of diseases if the needle is dirty. Also, most heroin is not "unadulterated", which means it often has contaminants that can be very toxic to the body.
Dependency is an issue in itself, because dependency isn't as simple as "omg i need to shoot up". Weight loss, tremors, seizures, hallucinations, and can even death(albeit rarely) can happen from chemical dependency.[/QUOTE]
I know all of this but I was just trying to make the point that pure heroin is not damagin apart from the addiction itself if administered in clean situations compared to pure MDMA, Im not advocating heroin use I was just trying to inform him as a lot of people don't know this. I don't know why but I just felt compelled to do so :v:
[QUOTE=The Janitor;35313485]That doesn't make it not addictive. It's the endorphins released that become addicted. That's why at some stage of your life or still you masturbate every second you can.[/QUOTE]
It's definitely addictive, but not in the way we are talking about. Meth, heroin, amphetamines, alcohol, nicotine, these are all drugs that you can create [I]chemical dependency[/I]. This means that your body literally needs the drug to feel right. Like I said in the last post, it chemical dependency can cause a whole slew of serious physical and psychological symptoms that can be very painful to go through.
MDMA and marijuana don't create a chemical dependency. They are addictive in the same way watching television or playing games is addictive. They cause you to feel good, which in turn makes you want to keep doing it.
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[QUOTE=Stormcharger;35313493]I know all of this but I was just trying to make the point that pure heroin is not damagin apart from the addiction itself if administered in clean situations compared to pure MDMA, Im not advocating heroin use I was just trying to inform him as a lot of people don't know this. I don't know why but I just felt compelled to do so :v:[/QUOTE]
That may be true, but in practicality there is very rarely a "clean situation". Unless you synthesize heroin yourself, or you have a morphine prescription, you have to buy from a dealer.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;35313493]I know all of this but I was just trying to make the point that pure heroin is not damagin apart from the addiction itself if administered in clean situations compared to pure MDMA, Im not advocating heroin use I was just trying to inform him as a lot of people don't know this. I don't know why but I just felt compelled to do so :v:[/QUOTE]
it's simply not true. heroin is an opioid and it affects the whole body rather than just the brain.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid#Adverse_effects[/url]
just because its effects are complex doesn't mean that they are non-existent. summary: ecstasy isn't good for you, and heroin is really bad for you.
[QUOTE=thisispain;35313506]it's simply not true. heroin is an opioid and it affects the whole body rather than just the brain.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid#Adverse_effects[/url]
just because its effects are complex doesn't mean that they are non-existent. summary: ecstasy isn't good for you, and heroin is really bad for you.[/QUOTE]
Those are short term effects and theses are the only common ones "Common adverse reactions in patients taking opioids for pain relief include: nausea and vomiting, drowsiness, itching, dry mouth, miosis, and constipation.[2]"
Which I can say as someone who uses opiates occasionally are easy to deal with.
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Can we just agree that both are bad for you but it would probably be less damaging to be addicted to pure heroin rather than pure mdma
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35311615]Fairly common, actually. Well, that's half true. There are ecstasy pills cut with meth, or even heroin. The thing is that you generally ask for those specific "brands"(or w/e) of pill. It's probably fairly rare for a kid to get a meth cut pill his first time taking ecstasy, unless the person he bought it from is a douche.[/QUOTE]
Ecstasy pills are dangerous. People cut those things with anything and everything and are redistributed with very little care at all. If you're going to do it, find someone you really trust to help you out. Or better yet, avoid the pills all together.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;35313552]Ecstasy pills are dangerous. People cut those things with anything and everything and are redistributed with very little care at all. If you're going to do it, find someone you really trust to help you out. Or better yet, avoid the pills all together.[/QUOTE]
Yea definetly this. I would never buy an ecstasy pill I would only buy mdma as no pills in my country actually have mdma in them.
For anyone who does ecstasy pills I strongly recommend going to [url]www.pillreports.com[/url] to see what is in your pill and investing in ecstasy testing kits such as these ones [url]http://dancesafe.org/products/testing-kits[/url]
What a turd she is, doing all this shit to try and stay relevant.
[i]"Electronic music has been a part of my career since I started, and I can honestly say … a DJ saved my life."[/i]
Haha he hasn't been a Progressive House producer for at least 2 years now.
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Also Madonna needs to stop.
kay, that dude needs to chill but jesus madonna asks that dumb question and then releases an album with an obvious stab at mdma
has she just found out about it and now thinks its the coolest thing ever?
so much cringe in this story.
If Bill Gates wanted to, he could brand himself as 'Microsoft Sam' an incredible EDM performer, hire a bunch of amazing musicians to create tracks for him, and then perform on stage at Cream, Ultra etc alongside Ultra, with Will.I.Am and Usher providing back up vocals.
It's all money baby!
[QUOTE=thisispain;35312591]a more important issue is this:
what kind of black magic can make Madonna look like she's 30 when she's actually 53.[/QUOTE]She's swapping her blood with African orphans.
It's not even blood anymore, it's silicon in its purest form
deadmau5 makes cool music but i've noticed over the years he's an arrogant dickhead. At least he's trying to wean the kids off thinking that mdma is a must have for a rave
I don't get why people assume he's yelling at his monitor while tweeting with comments similar to "bro needs to chill". This is essentially bashing the guy's career so liberal use of caps lock is justified.
MDMA and music are great together but as stated Madonna's stab was about as cool as if your mom asked you if you had "downed some "brews" tonight, sweetie" a sad attempt to be relevant.
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