I passed my test in January, tried insuring my Fiesta and it was £3,800 a year. This + fuel is just impossible.
[QUOTE=Master117;28128025]That's fucked up. Our dependence on oil is completely fucked up. Why are we using such a environmentally dangerous chemical when there are so many alternate solutions out there that are not even remotely as destructive?
Unfortunately it's not like anyone can [I]do[/I] anything since the fucking oil companies have pretty much [I]everyone[/I] by the balls.
Anyone that tries creating an alternate fuel source or an alternate means of production ALWAYS ends up getting silenced by the big oil companies. It's fucking bullshit. You know how apparently it's a breakthrough to create a vehicle that has a 100MPG fuel range? Well no, it's not. I can GUARANTEE that we already have EVERY piece of technology to completely rape that fuel economy and make vehicles that can travel much further with less emissions using less fuel than the ignorant bodies today could have ever imagined. I want to fucking burn down every single one of the fucking big oil headquarters and beat everyone in charge over there with a blunt object.[/QUOTE]
You epotimised everything I was just thinking about.
On a more happier note I have just started cycle commuting the entire 10 miles to work and back, lot cheaper obviously :)
[QUOTE=ThePunisher1;28153307]You epotimised everything I was just thinking about.
On a more happier note I have just started cycle commuting the entire 10 miles to work and back, lot cheaper obviously :)[/QUOTE]
Being a fat, lazy and stupid American my thought process for low cost commuting was along the lines of motorbicycles, e-bikes and mopeds
[QUOTE=Justin Case;28152393]I passed my test in January, tried insuring my Fiesta and it was £3,800 a year. This + fuel is just impossible.[/QUOTE]
That's pretty expensive, I'm getting ~£2000 for a 2010 corsa.
HEY! You have a thing called public transportation, so stop bitching. Here in the US, we often have to wait over half an hour for a bus to arrive.
1.54€ here in Finland. So I guess we're kinda at the same shitty level.
Wow, that's damn expensive, RON95 petrol in Malaysia is around RM 1.90 (equivalent to £0.32 / $0.62).
Sucks to hear that.
Edit: My bad, those are subsidized prices.
It's £1.47/litre where I am. Have to start running on chipfat.
Take the bus heheheh.
Get a bike
I remember when my fuel tank only took £25 to fill up (when I started to drive almost 6 years ago) now it takes about £45-50. :saddowns:
I wish petrol went back to less than 99p per litre.
[QUOTE=Miskatonic;28156842]HEY! You have a thing called public transportation, so stop bitching. Here in the US, we often have to wait over half an hour for a bus to arrive.[/QUOTE]
British public transportation is a fucking joke. Mostly late, delays from the tiniest bit of bad weather, cramped seats (my legs are too long I cannot sit on a Train/Bus), dirty toilets, over priced tickets and poor service (sometimes - some staff are actually great). Also a rise in fuel prices will mean a rise in tickets for public transport also.
I'll stick to my car.
[QUOTE=Soul-Chicken;28157355]Take the bus heheheh.[/QUOTE]
If gas prices increase, so do ticket prices
[QUOTE=Emz;28158187]
British public transportation is a fucking joke. Mostly late, delays from the tiniest bit of bad weather, cramped seats (my legs are too long I cannot sit on a Train/Bus), dirty toilets, over priced tickets and poor service (sometimes - some staff are actually great). Also a rise in fuel prices will mean a rise in tickets for public transport also.
I'll stick to my car.[/QUOTE]
your experience =/= everyone elses
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[QUOTE=johan_sm;28158251]If gas prices increase, so do ticket prices[/QUOTE]
£4 for a days travel and hasn't changed even with vat increase
[QUOTE=johan_sm;28158251]If gas prices increase, so do ticket prices[/QUOTE]
They don't change at the same rates. If it costs 5p more for a litre of gas and you're the only person in the car using that gas. With a bus that 5p is shared amongst the 20-30 people on the bus.
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;28158306]your experience =/= everyone elses[/QUOTE]
Most people in my area have that experience. As well as people I know from completely opposite ends of the country. Maybe you're just lucky.
[QUOTE=matt.ant;28127968]
However David Cameron plans to rise the tax more, saying, "like when an idividual is in debt, this country is in debt, and we all need to make sacrifices"
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Are you making any sacrifices then Mr.Cameron?
[editline]20th February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Miskatonic;28156842]HEY! You have a thing called public transportation, so stop bitching. Here in the US, we often have to wait over half an hour for a bus to arrive.[/QUOTE]
The cost of public transport is going up, and it's still as shit as it was before.
I don't like these sacrifices, what are we actually sacrificing it for anyway? Please enlighten me.
Preferably with some sources too so I can read up.
[QUOTE=Emz;28158187]I remember when my fuel tank only took £25 to fill up (when I started to drive almost 6 years ago) now it takes about £45-50. :saddowns:
I wish petrol went back to less than 99p per litre.
British public transportation is a fucking joke. Mostly late, delays from the tiniest bit of bad weather, cramped seats (my legs are too long I cannot sit on a Train/Bus), dirty toilets, over priced tickets and poor service (sometimes - some staff are actually great). Also a rise in fuel prices will mean a rise in tickets for public transport also.
I'll stick to my car.[/QUOTE]
My bike cost £8 for a full tank, it's now about £12 at least I think.
And you find the seats are too small? I'm 6"7 and can't even fit my legs in the seats on the train without spreading over into another seat. :saddowns:
Also a train I had to take got delayed by 1 hour and 20 minutes, because some twat decided to jump infront of it, I was not pleased.
[QUOTE=Rosek;28158703]
And you find the seats are too small? I'm 6"7 and can't even fit my legs in the seats on the train without spreading over into another seat. :saddowns:
[/QUOTE]
I feel for you. I'm just over 6ft but being 6 foot 7 must be really bad.
Nearly eight dollars per gallon? I don't know who's ripping you off more, the government or the oil industries. Honestly, what do they expect to accomplish from taxing fuels that everybody uses? No amount of taxation of fuels is going to change anything one bit, after all, that tax revenue will only find itself in the pockets of the government fat cats that were elected in. Who drive around in thier huge ass SUVs and inefficient luxury vehicles, while they sit there in parliament, screaming at the citizens "sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice".
It's really shit I can barely afford to drive to uni everyday now!
The government doesn't seem to realise that if nobody can get a job, they don't actually get money.
[QUOTE=Miskatonic;28156842]HEY! You have a thing called public transportation, so stop bitching. Here in the US, we often have to wait over half an hour for a bus to arrive.[/QUOTE]
Its riddled with drunkards and disease, no thanks
For those talking about pubic transport - it's still cheaper to drive most of the time. Where I am, a bus costs £2.70 one way, so to go to town and back would be £5.40. It's only good if you're under 18 and in full time education where it's 50p one way (gone up 10p) or if you're over 65 where it's free
Jesus and I thought $1.40AUD/L was bad
Guys, you people who are calling the oil industry greedy. The OP and below says how the price is actually bumped up by the RIDICULOUS amount of money the government charges on fuel. Gordon Brown's government got us into this, and Tony Blair's before that, granted, but Cameron is going completely the wrong way about budget cuts. He's digging into the things we NEED to live our lives here in the UK - Hospitals (+NHS), Transport, Public Service. While Executives in the councils are paid extortionate amounts from the taxpayer's pocket.
Take the Vale Of Glamorgan council. Our roads are almost certainly the worst in the country, my dad had to pay out £400 to replace his tyres and another god knows how much to fix his front suspension and axles because of the potholes and stud-style (not sleeping policeman hump) road bumps. The council gave the contract for school transport to the lowest bidder, and we've counted 6 breakdowns since september (and about 200 late/missed stops on the worst route). Public service workers, including my mother, aunt and grandfather, are taking a pay cut, job losses and pension cuts.
And the executive (AND HIS WIFE) are earning a quarter of a million pounds a year.
Okay, I'm rambling. The point is, WHY are we taking such a hit for this? What sacrifices are our government making themselves? I don't think the oil price is at fault for 82p per litre of tax. It feels to me like the Tories are punishing us for our government's debt.
I'm sure ol' Dave and his pals will shoulder the burden as well right?
Right guys?
fight the power
[QUOTE=Jon27;28165840]Guys, you people who are calling the oil industry greedy. The OP and below says how the price is actually bumped up by the RIDICULOUS amount of money the government charges on fuel. Gordon Brown's government got us into this, and Tony Blair's before that, granted, but Cameron is going completely the wrong way about budget cuts. He's digging into the things we NEED to live our lives here in the UK - Hospitals (+NHS), Transport, Public Service. While Executives in the councils are paid extortionate amounts from the taxpayer's pocket.
Take the Vale Of Glamorgan council. Our roads are almost certainly the worst in the country, my dad had to pay out £400 to replace his tyres and another god knows how much to fix his front suspension and axles because of the potholes and stud-style (not sleeping policeman hump) road bumps. The council gave the contract for school transport to the lowest bidder, and we've counted 6 breakdowns since september (and about 200 late/missed stops on the worst route). Public service workers, including my mother, aunt and grandfather, are taking a pay cut, job losses and pension cuts.
And the executive (AND HIS WIFE) are earning a quarter of a million pounds a year.
Okay, I'm rambling. The point is, WHY are we taking such a hit for this? What sacrifices are our government making themselves? I don't think the oil price is at fault for 82p per litre of tax. It feels to me like the Tories are punishing us for our government's debt.[/QUOTE]
This, exactly.
If the government is going to affect the lives of the average citizen with regulation, at least provide an alternative, with tax subsidies.
Is gas (LNG) common in the UK? And are they are any subsidization of gas cars? Or electric cars?
Or is it just the usual 'fuck the commoners' opinion of the politicians?
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