[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;43851719]yeah but how much of it is fact based and how much of it is entirely speculative?
from a few nights of listening to e news when my girlfriend puts it on the TV it seems like it's all speculative bullshit and not actual news
papparazi job is a glorified stalker, not a news hound or journalist.[/QUOTE]
i dont really know how we got into discussing this. all i said was that journalists don't leave people alone because they ask them to. they leave people alone when they are boring
[QUOTE=Desuh;43851728]Who is this Shia LaBeouf guy? Never heard of him.[/QUOTE]
he's not famous anymore
[QUOTE=Desuh;43851728]Who is this Shia LaBeouf guy? Never heard of him.[/QUOTE]
No talent narcissist that got famous because of the transformer movies.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;43851595]i dont think the press really work like this. i'm not sure "respecting someone's wishes" is something that falls into their categories of "reasons to stop hassling people"
don't do things worthy of reporting and you won't get reported on. it's as simple and as sad as that really. look at stars like ryan gosling: practically one of the most lusted over people on the planet at the moment and yet he is very rarely in the news simply because he keeps his head down[/QUOTE]
It's not an easy feat and you seem to think that just not doing anything will make you fade into onbscurity when you're a high profile actor. It doesn't work like that either buddy. Especially for actors like LaBeouf whom paparzzi's know will make a good scope and his sudden disappearance from the media will make ANY news AT ALL on him very VERRRRRRY valuable. So he's doing what other stars will do, they will appear but they will make themselves unfit for the camera to make paparazzi's jobs much harder. A shot of labouef without a bag on his head would be much more valuable than one with the bag on his head. Maybe in this specific case tabloids would pay good money for this picture, but this is because it's the first time he's done something like this. If he continued to do this, tabloids would pay nothing for these pictures as, how can you prove it's even him under the bag? You can easily fabricate it. Labeouf is actually taking a good approach to this despite how insane and asinine it appears on the surface.
Other stars can just stay out of the spotlight because they live normal lives for the most part. Not doing much anything interesting, they aren't going to clubs and getting royally drunk and fucked up on drugs then stumble out of the club and slam their face on the door of their car the valet is holding open for them. You wanna know why Gosling is very rarely seen in the news? Because he doesn't do anything scandalous. He owns a place in new york with his dog and owns a restaurant. That's it. He makes appearances on talk shows and such and beyond that he's not out there generating pr for himself. Labeof does not have this clean slate at all to bank off of, he has a past that Hollywood paparazzi will always want to report on and dig up, and push the star more to get more of that.
[QUOTE=aydin690;43851737]Joseph Gordon-Levitt think they're hot shit[/QUOTE]
i think jgl's status as overrated has been pretty solidly cemented by his terribly average ego-stroking movie
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;43851768]i think jgl's status as overrated has been pretty solidly cemented by his terribly average ego-stroking movie[/QUOTE]
excuse me, what? I seriously think you're giving him too much credit for how popular he is. This circlejerk fanbase around him is pretty much limited to a few sites on the internet.
Not to mention Don Jon was actually a shockingly well written movie, the dude knows how to direct too.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;43849706]or, maybe, he could just be using an applicable quote? References, homages to things are sometimes just fun to do. I think you're just leaning into this a little too hard.[/QUOTE]
ehhh the dude's been going a little further than that
[url]https://twitter.com/thecampaignbook[/url]
[QUOTE=mysteryman;43851760]It's not an easy feat and you seem to think that just not doing anything will make you fade into onbscurity when you're a high profile actor.[/QUOTE]
and yet the vast majority of the highest profile actors manage it fine? clooney, decaprio, gosling etc are very rarely in the news for dumb shit
[quote]Especially for actors like LaBeouf whom paparzzi's know will make a good scope and his sudden disappearance from the media will make ANY news AT ALL on him very VERRRRRRY valuable.[/quote]
chicken and egg. what came first, the pap hunting down labeouf and turning him into an attention whore weirdo, or labeouf's weird attention whoring making the pap want to hunt him down?
[quote]A shot of labouef without a bag on his head would be much more valuable than one with the bag on his head.[/quote]
surely this entire news article completely disproves that
[quote]Maybe in this specific case tabloids would pay good money for this picture, but this is because it's the first time he's done something like this. If he continued to do this, tabloids would pay nothing for these pictures as, how can you prove it's even him under the bag? You can easily fabricate it.[/quote]
this is completely farcical. do you really suggest that an actor lives his life under a paper bag to shake the trail of the tabloids? lol wtf he'd be branded insane by everyone and be ridiculed and outcast by the whole hollywood in-crowd
[quote]Other stars can just stay out of the spotlight because they live normal lives for the most part. Not doing much anything interesting, they aren't going to clubs and getting royally drunk and fucked up on drugs then stumble out of the club and slam their face on the door of their car the valet is holding open for them. You wanna know why Gosling is very rarely seen in the news? Because he doesn't do anything scandalous.[/quote]
um yes this is exactly what i'm saying - if labeouf wasn't a giant douchebag he wouldn't be in the news... so maybe he should work on not being a giant douchebag?
[quote]Labeof does not have this clean slate at all to bank off of, he has a past that Hollywood paparazzi will always want to report on and dig up, and push the star more to get more of that.[/quote]
and therefore he should wear a paperbag and storm out of interviews everywhere he goes for however long it takes for this to stop. this is an excellent plan. there are tonnes of actors who have really fucked up pasts and got papped to kingdom come. you know how they made it stop? by sorting out their lives. one of them managed to become governor of california
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;43849316]If he didn't want attention he wouldn't have showed up there.
Showing up on a film event wearing a suit but going "DON'T LOOK AT ME, DON'T LOOK AT ME, WHY ARE YOU INTERESTED INTO ME" it just sounds like an exact opposite - a pretentious attention grab[/QUOTE]
It's kind of part of his job as a professional actor to appear at film events. He considerably has to go, but the over sensationalization is apparently bugging him, so he makes a statement about it.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;43849799]what was it applicable to?
cantona was hounded by the press for something he did (that was pretty fuckin terrible) and they ate up everything he said - he was pretty much the world's most famous, most loved, and also most hated sportsman
labeouf is pretty much a joke at this point trying to claw his way into the limelight. all of the media attention he's getting is for this weird project of his where he steals work and quotes from people and goes out looking for the media
it's not applicable because he's doing things in the exact opposite way to cantona's situation[/QUOTE]
i don't know who cantona is lol
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;43851973]i don't know who cantona is lol[/QUOTE]
you literally just need to open google and search cantona to know
[QUOTE=aydin690;43851737]Shia LaBeouf and Joseph Gordon-Levitt think they're hot shit. Actors way more talented than these two hacks actually take time to meet fans and answer questions for hours.[/QUOTE]
but jgl is actually good
[img]http://i.imgur.com/A34XQgP.png[/img]
[QUOTE=ZenZill;43849219]Talk about mental degradation. He could have glossed over all of his recent controversies and kept some dignity, but instead we get this?[/QUOTE]
I imagine that having the ability to transcend mundane feelings like dignity would be part of being a performing artist.
Sometimes it goes well, sometimes not.
I once stood at one end of a shopping mall in a toga (ok, it was a bed sheet,) shouting horoscopes to passers by at sunset. Did this for a few weeks. Not very dignified (probably not sane), but I had a small group of fans and felt it was worth it. Stopped doing it when my cheapo sandals wore out.
Dignity just isn't that important when you have a message to get out.
He really just needs to go back to being Louis Stevens.
He should probably just move to Monaco.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;43853606]He really just needs go back to being Louis Stevens.[/QUOTE]
That's what I remember him as from an acting standpoint. In fact that show was the first place I saw the kid, back in the 90s/early 2000s when those kinds of shows were around, with the whole 90's moral family culture a'la Home Improvement and other such shows.
Optimus Prime really fucked him up.
I didn't know FP had a dedicated Shia LeBeouf defense force
I guess it takes manchildren to defend manchildren?
I don't like Shia that much but that was cool
dude if you don't want to be there...don't go lol
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;43849224] Were you expecting more? Were you thinking you deserved something better? You deserve nothing.[/QUOTE]
I deserve it all dammit. I bought Holes on Blu-Ray.
Reading first page, its ridiculously hilarious that he just wanted a reaction with that paper bag stunt, and looks like he nailed it perfectly.
People of art truly amaze and amuse me. This is Maria Abramovic and Pahomov level shit.
[QUOTE=wooletang;43849191]I don't understand the fascination of following a celebrity and making fun of their idiosyncrasies.
They are people too. They aren't special or any more talented than anyone else. They just happen to either know the right people, or possess some other characteristic that made them famous, and then it's everyone's business to know their business. I don't get it. Shia, Justin, Kim, Miley, etc, etc. They act weird, but you wouldn't care if they weren't catapulted into some fabricated dream world in which they actually matter, and their views on things are supposedly more important than everyone else's.
Leave the poor motherfuckers alone and let them do their thing. If you don't like how well they do their jobs, whoopty fucking doo. Shut up about it. It's not like they come by your house and insult you for "not taking medication" or your "edginess."[/QUOTE]
justin bieber is genuine scum. everything you just said doesn't apply to him. people hate him for being a legitimately bad person which he absolutely is.
I don't know why you would ever think kim kardashian belongs on that list. she literally fucked her way to being famous. she wanted the lime light, she wanted the attention, and the way she chose to get there was by trying to create a spectacle around her looks. if you can't handle being acknowledged as being precisely what you really are then don't seek fame.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;43851781]excuse me, what? I seriously think you're giving him too much credit for how popular he is. This circlejerk fanbase around him is pretty much limited to a few sites on the internet.
Not to mention Don Jon was actually a shockingly well written movie, the dude knows how to direct too.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention, 3rd Rock From The Sun was an amazing and hilarious show, where JGL played Tommy. He's been around, and he's not terrible
And why exactly do people give two shits about celebrities? I never understood that.
[QUOTE=apierce1289;43858060]And why exactly do people give two shits about celebrities? I never understood that.[/QUOTE]
because they make millions doing something that most average people would consider amazing and fun. we pay to see them pretending to be other people, throwing footballs, punching each other in a ring, playing great music. most of them are beautiful too. it's only natural that people look up to them and want to know what they're doing, what they're wearing and, even more so, when they fall from grace
how is that difficult to understand
[QUOTE=Diet Kane;43849326]Shia is going buttmad because people found out that he plagiarized some comic for a short film he did and instead of fessing up to it he threw a huge shitfit, people and even other celebs called him out on twitter and now he's just spiraling through one big whiteboy hissy fit[/QUOTE]
Wait, he's white? I thought he was hispanic.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;43855565]justin bieber is genuine scum. everything you just said doesn't apply to him. people hate him for being a legitimately bad person which he absolutely is.
I don't know why you would ever think kim kardashian belongs on that list. she literally fucked her way to being famous. she wanted the lime light, she wanted the attention, and the way she chose to get there was by trying to create a spectacle around her looks. if you can't handle being acknowledged as being precisely what you really are then don't seek fame.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, until last year, there was very little negative news about him. But the hate has been around for years now. It's entirely possible he snapped from a combination of the hate and fame.
It actually is difficult to understand because no matter how much I like a celebrity I won't follow them like a mad man. It's pointless and a waste of time. Sure their work is good like music and stuff but I would never care about their day to day life.
just so you guys know, shia labeouf tweets I AM NOT FAMOUS ANYMORE every single day at the exact same time on his verified twitter
[url]https://twitter.com/thecampaignbook[/url]
[editline]10th February 2014[/editline]
so yeah he's playing up his whole "now everyone suddenly dislikes him" thing to its maximum possible amount
[QUOTE=apierce1289;43858493] I won't follow them like a mad man. [/QUOTE]
Reading biographies equates to being a mad man?
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