Conservative documentary film '2016: Obama's America' poised to surpass Al Gore's 'An Inconvenient T - Polidicks

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;37500730] because it still has relevance. i dont see why it isnt reasonable to use it as an argument against romney just because it happened a long time ago. what he did is assault and tormen someone, this isnt some conjecture that came from a guys ass[/QUOTE] Actually this is all conjecture coming from your ass. It has no relevance to the person he is today whether he is the same person or not. We honestly need less deceitful people trying to grasp for straws against candidates and instead critique them on real issues. We don't need this bullshit. If Romney is anti-gay provide evidence for it that is relevant to today. Your little sob story how Romney is a bad person because he bullied someone when he was a fucking child is not only irrelevant, but distracting and incredibly fucking annoying.

[QUOTE=Aesir;37492298]If you pass by Winnipeg on the way would you mind taking me with you? I wouldn't take up too much room, I could probably fit in the luggage compartment.[/QUOTE] I'm near you, we can go together

Can I ask why being anti colonialist is considered a bad thing?

> complains about liberal media bias > shows up on MSNBC and Bill Maher to promote his movie

How does an argument even come out of such a thread. "Man makes dumb movie and it is popular"

[QUOTE=Lambeth;37500884]Can I ask why being anti colonialist is considered a bad thing?[/QUOTE] Because Israel is colonialist and anyone who doesn't support israel is an antisemite :downs:

[QUOTE=Lambeth;37500884]Can I ask why being anti colonialist is considered a bad thing?[/QUOTE] I don't know. It's just something 12 yearolds like Glaber and Yawrawraw repeats because lol.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37500783]Actually this is all conjecture coming from your ass. It has no relevance to the person he is today whether he is the same person or not.[/QUOTE] lol

Why does it matter if Romney was a bully? Kids are stupid, they do stupid things. Romney bullied a kid, Obama smoked weed. Who gives a shit?

[QUOTE=The Kakistocrat;37503044]Romney bullied a kid, Obama smoked weed. Who gives a shit?[/QUOTE] hahahaha this is the same comparison as the last thread but ill give you the general response from last time: this is nowhere near the same. smoking weed doesnt traumatize people and you should give a shit because again for the hundredth time there's a pretty glaring character flaw when you assault someone because you don't like who they are at an age where [I]you do know better[/I] and you continue to be bigoted and support bigoted policies into your professional career. blowing that off is ludicrious

[QUOTE=person11;37497654]Obama's policy for the next four years will be... ...more of the last four years. It is funny how Republicans like to get themselves so scared of unlikely things. [editline]1st September 2012[/editline] I am going to make an alternate Obama's America in which everything is exactly the same in 2016 as it is now.[/QUOTE] Except Obama told the Russian predisent he'd be more flexible to work with if he was re-elected. So your alternate 2016 will still have the recession, housing market crash, etc?

[QUOTE=Aesir;37499511]Does anyone else remember that one article that reported on how supposedly Romney had assaulted a kid (tackling him, holding him down, cutting his hair, etc) when he was younger and we had some people crying foul because it apparently had no bearing on what he was like today?[/QUOTE] Theres a pretty big fucking difference between suggesting that Romney's schoolyard bully behavior may have transitioned to adulthood with political policies that hurt the poor and underrepresented, and the idea that Obama got into politics to appease his fathers dying wish to see the anti-colonial ideology (as it were) demolished. And that he is doing that by becoming the president of the united states and purposefully lowering our standing in the world. Not to mention it's pretty fucking hard to rationalize Obama's supposed fascination with anti-colonialism and anti-American interventionalism when he is dropping Hellfire missiles on every country that ends with -stan and might have a bad guy in it.

[QUOTE=Glaber;37497707]the whole point of the movie is to learn about Obama and his past by tracing Obama's life according to Obama's Auto biography and visiting the places Obama talks about Like Kenya and Hawaii. Dinesh also visits with people who knew Obama so as to learn more about him.[/QUOTE] Answer the damn question for once.

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;37503424]hahahaha this is the same comparison as the last thread but ill give you the general response from last time: this is nowhere near the same. smoking weed doesnt traumatize people and you should give a shit because again for the hundredth time there's a pretty glaring character flaw when you assault someone because you don't like who they are at an age where [I]you do know better[/I] and you continue to be bigoted and support bigoted policies into your professional career. blowing that off is ludicrious[/QUOTE] But DOG-GY "logic" would state that since Obama smoked weed he obviously didn't have any respect for the law, and since he hasn't proven that he has changed or apologized for his ways he should be treated as someone who has criminal intent. [editline]2nd September 2012[/editline] Also Obama probably said something rude to someone sometime so that obviously means he is a bully.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37504420]But DOG-GY "logic" would state that since Obama smoked weed he obviously didn't have any respect for the law, and since he hasn't proven that he has changed or apologized for his ways he should be treated as someone who has criminal intent. [editline]2nd September 2012[/editline] Also Obama probably said something rude to someone sometime so that obviously means he is a bully.[/QUOTE] "There is no difference between publicly pinning someone down and cutting up their hair and calling someone a mean word."

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37504420]But DOG-GY "logic" would state that since Obama smoked weed he obviously didn't have any respect for the law, and since he hasn't proven that he has changed or apologized for his ways he should be treated as someone who has criminal intent.[/QUOTE] this is strawman out the fucking wazoo because i pretty clearly said that smoking weed is nothing like [I]assault[/I]. not to mention that theres nothing wrong with smoking weed/it doesnt show disrespect for law/he doesnt do it anymore/who would he apologize to??? like what the fuck were u even thinking making a post this abysmal theres literally no argument in it please realize the irony your post contains seeing as youre attempting to call me out on logic yet u cant even make a coherent and logical argument yourself

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;37504651]this is strawman out the fucking wazoo because i pretty clearly said that smoking weed is nothing like [I]assault[/I]. not to mention that theres nothing wrong with smoking weed/it doesnt show disrespect for law/he doesnt do it anymore/who would he apologize to??? [/QUOTE] OHHHH NO, Obama smoking weed is college is fine but a child acting like a child is FUCKING UNACCEPTABLE.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37504715]OHHHH NO, Obama smoking weed is college is fine but a child acting like a child is FUCKING UNACCEPTABLE.[/QUOTE] a child acting like a child? he assaulted someone at 18 in high school. 18 is not a child do you know what assault is? have you read what romney did? do you know that weed is not bad for you? have you ever smoked weed in your life? i dont understand how you cant comprehend the difference between something harmless and something that traumatizes someone

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;37504756]a child acting like a child? he assaulted someone at 18 in high school. 18 is not a child do you know what assault is? have you read what romney did? do you know that weed is not bad for you? have you ever smoked weed in your life? i dont understand how you cant comprehend the difference between something harmless and something that traumatizes someone[/QUOTE] "I am DOG-GY and I have no idea what peer pressure and mental maturity is." [editline]2nd September 2012[/editline] Or are you one of those people who think that as soon as you turn 18 you are instantly a full adult ready to take on all responsibilities of adulthood and at full maturity?

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37500057]I'm one of the people who was saying this has no bearing on Romney now, just like I don't think any of this shit in 2016 really has bearing on Obama now.[/QUOTE] well then watch it and then judge for yourself. Saying it has no bearing with out watching it is like giving a book review without reading the book.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37504771]"I am DOG-GY and I have no idea what peer pressure and mental maturity is." [editline]2nd September 2012[/editline] Or are you one of those people who think that as soon as you turn 18 you are instantly a full adult ready to take on all responsibilities of adulthood and at full maturity?[/QUOTE] what is that even supposed to mean its not even a rebuttal youre just acting like a child who wont listen fallacious as fuck

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;37504787]what is that even supposed to mean its not even a rebuttal youre just acting like a child who wont listen fallacious as fuck[/QUOTE] I'll put it into little words so you understand. There is this thing called [i]peer pressure[/i]. This can cause people to act in immature and sometimes harmful ways, especially when a person has lower [i]mental maturity[/i], which is generally when they are younger.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37504803]I'll put it into little words so you understand. There is this thing called [i]peer pressure[/i]. This can cause people to act in immature and sometimes harmful ways, especially when a person has lower [i]mental maturity[/i], which is generally when they are younger.[/QUOTE] dont patronize me, your post was readable but you still havent made an argument. you're just dodging what I'm saying. and by peer pressure you mean he took the initiative to do it, right? sure he might have been supported by his peers but [I]it was his idea to assault someone[/I]. you havent answered a single question i've asked, you've only poorly attempted to talk down to me as if im speaking another language. so are you saying at 18 you would have done what he did to someone? you've already trivialized assault by comparing it to marijuana and rude language, stated that 18 is a child, dodged answering to the reasons why romney did what he did, dodged the reasons why you trivializing assault is fucking awful, and pretty much dodged everything i've stated. dont attempt to get high ground by saying you're going to use little words with men when you are incapable of actually arguing a point. if you disagree with what romney did as being relevant, argue that point reasonably. dont make this personal and insult my intelligence just because you cant see my side of the argument. either shape up or fuck off

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;37504892]dont patronize me, your post was readable but you still havent made an argument. you're just dodging what I'm saying. and by peer pressure you mean he took the initiative to do it, right? sure he might have been supported by his peers but [I]it was his idea to assault someone[/I]. you havent answered a single question i've asked, you've only poorly attempted to talk down to me as if im speaking another language.[/quote] So initiators can never experience peer pressure? Someone who is expected to behave a certain way, or has certain "responsibilities" in a group, will feel pressure to carry out those "responsibilities". This is compounded in youth because of a child's pressure to find and stay in a group. Adolescents are incredibly vulnerable to the forces of peer pressure, and initiators are often just as much a victim of this pressure as the other perpetrators in the group. [quote]so are you saying at 18 you would have done what he did to someone? you've already trivialized assault by comparing it to marijuana and rude language, stated that 18 is a child, dodged answering to the reasons why romney did what he did, dodged the reasons why you trivializing assault is fucking awful, and pretty much dodged everything i've stated.[/quote] I'm not trivializing assault, I'm against witch hunting. Obama smoking weed and Romney assaulting a kid are exactly the same when both happened decades ago in a very crucial way. They are artifacts of the fucking past that cannot morally be used to judge a person today. They are private matters that have no importance regarding the issues. People change over decades, and the actions of a person in high school don't reflect on the actions of a person in their 60s. [quote]dont attempt to get high ground by saying you're going to use little words with men when you are incapable of actually arguing a point. if you disagree with what romney did as being relevant, argue that point reasonably. dont make this personal and insult my intelligence just because you cant see my side of the argument.[/quote] Ha, this coming from one of the most pretentious posters on Facepunch. [quote]either shape up or fuck off[/QUOTE] Same to you.

[QUOTE=Carnage2323;37490803]I wonder what Facepunch would think if Romney actually won[/QUOTE] Romney himself? Not too worried. Sure, he's a shady fuck, and the US will probably become a bit of a worse place to live, but he changes his stance on issues every other week so we're not going to be too far in the shitter, assuming nothing goes wrong. If something [b]does[/b] go wrong though, Ryan's in charge. Him being anywhere near a position of power is what's going to make me jump ship and request asylum in Canada.

This movie is basically an adaption of two of d'Souza's best selling books (yeah, I know) called "The Roots of Obama's Rage", as well as another more recent one also called "Obama's America" the basic thrust being that Obama suffers from father abandonment issues and his radical left-wing environment fostered an "anti-colonial" viewpoint on him that he feels the need to fulfill by driving the country into the ground, at home and abroad. d'Souza contrasts that with his own experience growing up in India, and "seeing the light" as it were. The book itself was already criticized for a lot of inaccuracies and wild jumps, but what helps d'Souza is that the audience buying his books and watching the movie already think Obama is a radical socialist out to destroy 'murica. It's a load of bull shit but frankly d'Souza got a lot of help in right-wing circles on TV and talk radio to get people to watch a movie in a slow time of year- we're at the tail end of summer blockbusters and going into fall, which is usually slow to begin with. Since it's also election year, well, do the math.

this film - OBAMA SENIOR WAS A KENYAN - HE HAD ANTI-COLONIALIST VIEW - OBAMA ONLY MET HIS FATHER ONCE - BUT THAT WAS ENOUGH FOR OBAMA TO BECOME PRESIDENT SO HE CAN DESTROY AMERICA WHILE MAKING AFRICA BETTER - THE FUTURE IS IN YOUR HANDS, DONT VOTE OBAMA was the dumbest movie i've watched, i thought it was an autobiography film but it ended up being anti-obama bullshit with plenty of conservative interviewees along with dumb hilarious anecdotes

[QUOTE=Glaber;37504785]well then watch it and then judge for yourself. Saying it has no bearing with out watching it is like giving a book review without reading the book.[/QUOTE] The whole "obama met his dad once and that's why he's a dirty commie" kinda wrecks the whole thing and makes it hard for people to take him seriously. Like if I fuck one horse I don't think I'll get many girlfriends.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37504771]"I am DOG-GY and I have no idea what peer pressure and[B] mental maturity[/B] is." [/QUOTE] Neither do you seeing as you have the mental maturity of a 5 year old.

You seriously think that's all it took? So his mentors had nothing to do with it? Well, I guess If I were busy eating people I wouldn't be paying attention to them either unless they were my dinner.