Why are you guys praising linux like it's the next windows killer
Jesus, even Steve Jobs publicly confessed that Macintosh would never ever beat Windows
[QUOTE=Foda;39061990]Linux? Yuck. I really don't understand why they are choosing a platform with zero compatibility with older games. Perhaps they want to build a custom distro that locks out every other game and program so they have complete control over the platform (which is funny because they are bitching at MS for doing the same fucking thing).[/QUOTE]
It has zero compatibility with WINDOWS games. Not linux games.
Wine is usually better at running old games than Windows 7 is anyways.
Personally i hope this really takes off in a big way. The coming bullshit from microsoft and sony might give this console the push it needs to gain market share.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;39062315]Why are you guys praising linux like it's the next windows killer
Jesus, even Steve Jobs publicly confessed that Macintosh would never ever beat Windows[/QUOTE]
Because Linux actually has a shot of taking marketshare from Windows?
It's not a short-term war, it's a long-term one. Hell, most of the world is already being run by Linux, the desktop and laptop markets are the odd ones in the group of markets.
We've got fucking fridges running Linux, and Linux will still exist a hundred years from now, but it's entirely likely that Windows might die off from active use because people can't copy it freely.
It doesn't matter who has "the truth", if you can yell louder than that guy.
I have a gaming PC that I can easily lug into the living room and connect to the TV (or even just my laptop), but if the price is right I'll definitely get one of these even if only to support it. I want to see this become successful, because we'll finally have a console that challenges the growing problem of super-controlled systems and all the bullshit that comes with those, both for developers and consumers.
What Valve really needs to do is get the right marketing in place. Get a catchy name and get it onto the shelves and ads alongside the Big Three. They need to come out of the gate with as much fervor as possible to get it established in living rooms and get the numbers that will bring developers on board.
Unless it has PC hardware and I can somehow get Windows inside it I'm not really interested
I'm sure some people will be though
[QUOTE=mrhippieguy;39062201]it's your computer dude
I've done everything from replacing all of the hardware except the hdd and bothering with incompatibilities later to installing gentoo
only issue I've ever had with steam was slowness, maybe a little confusion with the 'retry connection' button, but never had to "nuke and pave" to get it to work
[sp]okay maybe it hates my 2004 ghettobook but that's probably an xorg thing[/sp][/QUOTE]
It can't be 3 different computers people.
I spent all my money from christmas on christmas stuff including the winter sale.
Luckily we have chinese new year right guys? More money and hopefully enough for the steam box <3
[QUOTE=The Baconator;39060012]what consoles launch with their entire library already made? Face it your logic is flawed, consoles get support after said console exists, not when the idea for said console exists[/QUOTE]
All modern consoles have launched with an adequate selections of games, that were developed alongside console development. Valve will have a hard time getting people other than indies and themselves on board at first. EA probably won't touch it because of the competition of Steam and Origin. (If it get's big, they will later.) Valve will probably need to promise developers results as the average consumer will go to platforms with many exclusives, and strong brand names: Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo. On release (I'm guessing 2013/2014) Explaining why you should by the Steam box over the new XBox and new Playstation models is going to be a hard to explain to the regular consumer.
Excellent, I can't wait for the Steam Box release in 2015!
Not very excited at it running a variant of linux, a lot of game companies can't be arsed to make proper ports to windows let alone a Linux platform.
[QUOTE=Foda;39061990]Linux? Yuck. I really don't understand why they are choosing a platform with zero compatibility with older games. Perhaps they want to build a custom distro that locks out every other game and program so they have complete control over the platform (which is funny because they are bitching at MS for doing the same fucking thing).[/QUOTE]
name me a single alternative, I dare you. Windows isn't a possibility.
[QUOTE=Foda;39061990] I really don't understand why they are choosing a platform with zero compatibility with older games.[/QUOTE]
most 'older' games used openGL
Only problem I've ever really had with Steam was a couple of years ago. Basically everything became massively slow and buggy and Steam was just acting outrageous. But that had to do with basically multiple parts failing at the same time. My hard drive was failing, my RAM was going out, and my mother board was going out. I just noticed it largely with Steam because it would launch on start up and I used it a lot. Firefox was having similar issues, but I wasn't doing a lot with it at the time.
DayZ Steambox/PC Crossplatform Exclusive plx
As far as PC Gaming goes, everything I do and everything I buy revolves around Steam. Massive support for them doing this.
It will be a happy day when my mates ditch there 360's and realise there is so much more. (So long as Fifa is good on the SB)
I have to admit, a lot of you have [i]absolutely[/i] no idea what Linux is or how it works, yet feel compelled to tell everyone how it's "not suitable" for users.
I'm sure we'd all appreciate doing a bit of research into what the hell a Desktop Environment is, and why saying "hurr linux doesn't look good" doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.
So they want to pull off a Macintosh but that word is copyrighted. Better call it the Steamingtosh.
All I hope for with this release is that we get more PC Splitscreen games. I hate having to rely on my old console to play games with friends at my place. Serious Sam 3 did a good job of pc split screen, more games need this, especially games like Borderlands 2.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;39062315]Why are you guys praising linux like it's the next windows killer
Jesus, even Steve Jobs publicly confessed that Macintosh would never ever beat Windows[/QUOTE]
Because it's Valve!! Valve never do anything wrong ever and Gabe'll announce a cure for all illnesses and aging so we become immortal demi-gods and we can worship him as the god emperor he is!!!
[QUOTE=Swilly;39062871]It can't be 3 different computers people.[/QUOTE]
You're right, it's you who's the problem.
Midas touch, except you fuck things up instead of turning it into gold.
I wonder if we were to play TF2 on this console...
...would we still get random "hl2.exe has stopped working" crashes?
unless they get ea and activision on this it won't work
[editline]2nd January 2013[/editline]
nobody will buy a console that doesn't have aaa titles
[QUOTE=Ezhik;39064962]unless they get ea and activision on this it won't work
[editline]2nd January 2013[/editline]
nobody will buy a console that doesn't have aaa titles[/QUOTE]
Yeah look at how badly the Wii sold before the support of EA and Activision.
Seeing as how there are barely any games that run on Linux, let alone AAA titles. Valve better persuade all major developers to consider Linux. Otherwise.. well things will go down, fast.
[QUOTE=danharibo;39065057]Yeah look at how badly the Wii sold before the support of EA and Activision.[/QUOTE]
yeah but it had aaa titles
mario, zelda, metroid, etc.
valve can't get those so they need crossplatform aaa titles
[QUOTE=CommanderPT;39065084]Seeing as how there are barely any games that run on Linux, let alone AAA titles. Valve better persuade all major developers to consider Linux. Otherwise.. well things will go down, fast.[/QUOTE]
there's no games on linux because there's no viable platform. There's no viable platform because [B]supposedly[/B] no-one wants to support a new one.
Gotta start somewhere.
besides nintendo is the fucking nintendo, everybody knows it, and valve to console gamers (aka the primary market for this thing) is "that company that made that portal game"
I'm fairly confident that Valve will have considered the fact that Linux doesn't have a back-catalog of games like Windows does.
To be honest, a console running Linux would probably be one of the easiest to develop for. Assuming AMD and nVidia stop dicking around and release really solid drivers (or Intel comes out of nowhere with a powerful GPU since their drivers are alright) then Linux gives you a much better starting point that something more bare-bones like the Wii (which I've read provides virtual nothing in terms of OS level libraries).
It makes sense that Valve would push Linux as a platform for their consoles, since Microsoft wouldn't want Valve to compete directly against the Xbox with their own operating system (and to beat a dead horse, Windows would be a retarded choice for the use case), and in addition to that, Games would have the benefit of requiring little effort to port to the desktop (infact, assuming the steam box is x86 or the IBM PC suddenly becomes ARM then the binaries themselves could even be the same).
Maybe Garry will accept that Gmod will be for consoles after all
With the next-gen consoles being announced at this years E3, I wonder how the SteamBox will compete with them. Other than Valve's own (currently being internally tested) controllers they will have to have something special, and Steam won't cut it.
I'm all for the SteamBox though. Pretty sure this is why they pushed Steam for Linux so fast, to get a headstart on getting more [url=http://cdr.xpaw.ru/linux/]Linux supported games[/url] out there.
The list is quite small currently but keeps growing rapidly as more developers put their games on Steam for Linux.
By the time the SteamBox is released I expect most (if not all) source based games will have been ported to Linux, giving it atleast a nice starting catalog of games (that you might already own on the PC).
Though that last point is important here, you won't have to re-buy the games that you already own on Steam, as support gets added the games will just start appearing in the Big Picture mode UI used on the SteamBox as they do now in Steam for Linux (or Mac). This is a major plus over other consoles.
Not to mention the fact [b]it runs Linux[/b], it'll be a box that you buy, and hack into if you want to.
I'm getting one for sure if I can get XBMC to run on it properly.
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