if this is linux only it wont be successful.
People buy a console for games to work, nice and easy.
A lot of games dont run on linux or made for it and takes fiddling, big name games are usually never linux.
Doesnt matter that its Valve or anyone.
You really cant compete with microsoft/windows when it comes to an OS for gaming, its too big and streamlined now, too many games are made with it in mind, I really doubt developers are gonna jump ship and just start making all their games on linux also.
I understand why it would be linux, they dont want to pay microsoft or give them any rights if they used windows, but I really dont see it being successful as linux.
[QUOTE=Ezhik;39086682]ps3 has no games is an old joke
also it's untrue[/QUOTE]
old joke because it [b]used to[/b] have no games.
[QUOTE=nikomo;39060023]It's Linux based, and Intel has been amazing when working with Valve. Furthermore, [B]their GPUs actually work under Linux.[/B] [/QUOTE]
What?
I've tried just about every version of their driver on every kernel released in the past 6 or so months on Arch linux, and only a handful have worked. And starting X involves GPU hang after GPU hang until it eventually stays stable for a little while. I actually had to write a script to forcefully kill and restart X over and over until no more hangs are reported.
It's widely reported that their hardware is absolutely awful and the linux driver is packed with workarounds to get at least some functionality out of it.
[QUOTE=Matt-;39086816]old joke because it [b]used to[/b] have no games.[/QUOTE]
even if that's true, it had brand loyalty going for it
valve has nothing
[editline]4th January 2013[/editline]
nothing but pc gamers that have pcs anyway and have no need for a console
valve needs the mainstream crowd to win
[QUOTE=Darkimmortal;39087576]What?
I've tried just about every version of their driver on every kernel released in the past 6 or so months on Arch linux, and only a handful have worked. And starting X involves GPU hang after GPU hang until it eventually stays stable for a little while. I actually had to write a script to forcefully kill and restart X over and over until no more hangs are reported.
It's widely reported that their hardware is absolutely awful and the linux driver is packed with workarounds to get at least some functionality out of it.[/QUOTE]
Are you running it on your toaster or something? Intel's Ivy and Sandy bridge IGPUs have been amazing on Linux, and If they are anything to go by I can imagine Haswell won't be a stinker either.
The reason I prefer consoles over computers is stabilty and speed. They just cant be beat.
Also I get much better hardware (for its era) at a fraction of the price. And I don't have to deal with all the problems custom built PCs have (I know a few people who have really good PCs for gaming but they constantly bluescreen due to hardware flaws)
So this really sounds attractive to me. Its combining the versatality of a PC witht the reliability of a console. Me gusta.
[QUOTE=Ezhik;39080225]in console fps games the d-pad is used for weapon switching, triggers on the top are shooting/aiming
and jumping is the "Q" button on your controller
[editline]3rd January 2013[/editline]
besides why even tie the buttons to keyboard buttons in the first place[/QUOTE]
because steam is rooted in PC gaming
it's just a nod to its origins, it isn't supposed to be 1 - 1 buttons with the same name do the same thing
[QUOTE=BFG9000;39089697]The reason I prefer consoles over computers is stabilty and speed. They just cant be beat.
Also I get much better hardware (for its era) at a fraction of the price. And I don't have to deal with all the problems custom built PCs have (I know a few people who have really good PCs for gaming but they constantly bluescreen due to hardware flaws)
So this really sounds attractive to me. Its combining the versatality of a PC witht the reliability of a console. Me gusta.[/QUOTE]
Is it weird that I've been PC gaming for years but never blue screened despite having used three different computers, two of which I've totally upgraded with different RAM, GPU, and CPU?
[QUOTE=BFG9000;39089697]The reason I prefer consoles over computers is [b]stabilty and speed[/b]. They just cant be beat.[/QUOTE]
must be nice with all those red rings of death that you have to buy an entire new console for; even if it's just a faulty RAM stick or something.
[QUOTE=danharibo;39077639]Where is the ~ button?[/QUOTE]
I honestly don't think that's necessary. You would probably have a keyboard lying around for such things, then.
[QUOTE=Darkimmortal;39087576]What?
I've tried just about every version of their driver on every kernel released in the past 6 or so months on Arch linux, and only a handful have worked. And starting X involves GPU hang after GPU hang until it eventually stays stable for a little while. I actually had to write a script to forcefully kill and restart X over and over until no more hangs are reported.
It's widely reported that their hardware is absolutely awful and the linux driver is packed with workarounds to get at least some functionality out of it.[/QUOTE]
Their linux drivers are very hackish, to say the least. Generally with linux the safest bet when it comes to GPU's is Nvidia.
[QUOTE=Matt-;39090674]must be nice with all those red rings of death that you have to buy an entire new console for; even if it's just a faulty RAM stick or something.[/QUOTE]
Devil's advocate here, he has a point. The theory goes that, in an ideal world, you don't have to worry about games not working on your GameStation 9000 when you plug them in; they will always work without a hitch. If you're a developer, you don't have to worry about making games work on an Intel or an AMD CPU or an Nvidia or AMD GPU or on Windows 7 or Windows 8 or anything. You can just make the games for the GameStation 9000 and the time spent debugging is greatly reduced.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;39084195]There really isn't. Once you start installing packages, DEs, WMs, running daemons, yeah the overhead builds up. But the basic kernel and tools is exceptionally light.[/QUOTE]
If they're just having steam on it then they probably won't even need more than a basic WM and drivers.
If it's meant to be a HTPC then it should only have HTPC software by default imo. if you want more then do it yourself, it's not a large task.
If they strike a deal with the XBMC team then it will be amazing :v:
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