White House has paperwork ready for Joe Arpaio pardon
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Okay, but he wasn't he going after illegals? At least give him that much. I hate how the media and left thinks illegals and immigrants are one and the same.
He pulled over anyone he saw that looked Latino and detained them without probable cause that they had an illegal immigration status.
[URL="https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/05/sheriff-joe-arpaio-allegedly-not-only-harrassed-latinos-but-ignored-crime/257033/"]His deputies also failed to follow up on or sometimes even show up to calls in the first place to various serious crimes, including [I]sexual assault on preteen children[/I], because they were too busy chasing anyone who might possibly be an illegal.[/URL] Note that I said [I]might possibly be[/I], because he was detaining people without probable cause and performing immigration checks while [URL="http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/victims-wonder-why-arpaio-let-sex-abuse-cases-languish-6463426"]letting rapists get away[/URL].
Do does your vision of an America Made Great Again include stopping foreign-looking people and demanding they show their papers? Because that's what Arpaio did for years and ignored the court when they told him to stop.
[QUOTE=MrRalgoman;52606312]Okay, but he wasn't he going after illegals? At least give him that much. I hate how the media and left thinks illegals and immigrants are one and the same.[/QUOTE]
Quit deflecting. Torturing people is bad. End of story.
[QUOTE=MrRalgoman;52606312]Okay, but he wasn't he going after illegals? At least give him that much.[/QUOTE]
Sure, I will give him that much! He [I]wasn't[/I] going after illegals. He was going after [I]a skin color[/I]. What am I supposed to be giving him 'much' of? Credit? Applause? Respect?
Where I'm sitting, he deserves none of those. He abused his office and deserved every inch of the contempt order that was slapped on him.
[quote]I hate how the media and left thinks illegals and immigrants are one and the same.[/quote]
And I hate how Trump and the right [B]don't care[/B] that they're not.
i kind of hope he does it, the gop will have to defend it, it will cost them a senate seat in arizona because the hispanics there will come out in force to do something
[QUOTE=MrRalgoman;52606312]Okay, but he wasn't he going after illegals? At least give him that much. I hate how the media and left thinks illegals and immigrants are one and the same.[/QUOTE]
Illegals are still people deserving of fair treatment. I'm not saying you said they werent but you don't seem to know what Arpaio did
[QUOTE=MrRalgoman;52606312]Okay, but he wasn't he going after illegals? At least give him that much.[B] I hate how the media and left thinks illegals and immigrants are one and the same.[/B][/QUOTE]
And the right doesn't? Guarantee that a majority of Trump's 'loyal' base will tell you that the only good 'immigrant' is a deported one cause they're 'illegal'.
[QUOTE=MrRalgoman;52606312]Okay, but he wasn't he going after illegals? At least give him that much. I hate how the media and left thinks illegals and immigrants are one and the same.[/QUOTE]
You fuckwit, he wasn't "going after illegals", he was chasing down and detaining innocent citizens without evidence on the suspicion they [I]might[/I] have been illegal immigrants. He's a racist piece of shit and a criminal.
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[QUOTE=MrRalgoman;52606251]I saw that BDA mentioned he tortured minorities, how so? I haven't read up on this guy at all really.[/QUOTE]
[quote]When he filled up the jail cells, to avoid hurting his popularity by spending taxpayer money, he built tents in the middle of the Arizona desert, where temperatures can reach up to 130 degrees. He deprived the inmates of basic necessities and reduced the meals to two per day while cutting the cost of each meal to 30 cents. He boasts that "it costs more to feed the dogs." Under such conditions, inmates are always hungry and have suffered drastic physical repercussions; one teenager reported losing 50 pounds since he was incarcerated.
Undocumented migrants also rarely have visitors, not only because of the culture of fear but also because of the sheriff's policy. A sign outside reads, "Illegal Aliens Are Prohibited From Visiting Anyone In This Jail."
Denigration and mental abuse have also reached new and surreal heights. The best example is the number of occasions on which he has marched hundreds of undocumented migrants, chained together, through the streets and the desert — in front of the media. One time, the sheriff forced a group to march wearing only pink underwear and flip-flops. He also formed female chain gangs.[/quote]
[quote]Arpaio has pushed racial profiling to ludicrous levels — physical appearance to him is enough to stop and question people, and he commonly conducts raids in Latino neighborhoods. Such harassment has created a major culture of fear among Latinos. A number of civil rights groups, such as the American Civil Liberties Union and Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund, sued Arpaio over racial profiling of Latinos in Maricopa County.[/quote]
[url]http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112296948[/url]
[editline]23rd August 2017[/editline]
Arpaio illegally detained people based solely on the color of their skin in his obsessive hunt for "illegal aliens." Those who he has detained are sent to concentration camp environments in blistering heat and deprived of food and water. They are denied visitors, and are routinely subjected to psychological torture and humiliation. When he was ordered by a judge to stop his campaign of unlawful imprisonment and torture, he point-blank refused to do so.
Arpaio is a [I]sickening[/i] and [I]dangerous[/I] person. Donald Trump, apparently, thinks he's an American hero.
Trump's a white supremacist, it's hardly surprising.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52606657][url]http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112296948[/url]
[editline]23rd August 2017[/editline]
Arpaio illegally detained people based solely on the color of their skin in his obsessive hunt for "illegal aliens." Those who he has detained are sent to concentration camp environments in blistering heat and deprived of food and water. They are denied visitors, and are routinely subjected to psychological torture and humiliation. When he was ordered by a judge to stop his campaign of unlawful imprisonment and torture, he point-blank refused to do so.
Arpaio is a [I]sickening[/i] and [I]dangerous[/I] person. Donald Trump, apparently, thinks he's an American hero.[/QUOTE]
Arpaio is a hero to a large, large number of Americans. Hatred runs through the veins of this country
[QUOTE=MrRalgoman;52606312]Okay, but he wasn't he going after illegals? At least give him that much. I hate how the media and left thinks illegals and immigrants are one and the same.[/QUOTE]
Even if they are illegal immigrants, they are also human and are allowed a basic amount of civil rights.
[QUOTE=MrRalgoman;52606312]Okay, but he wasn't he going after illegals? At least give him that much. I hate how the media and left thinks illegals and immigrants are one and the same.[/QUOTE]
In what way does the fact that he was looking for illegals make the rest of this ok? The legal system isn't like fishing, you don't just get to cast a line and see what you bring back. I hate how much the far-right thinks "let's just round up all the darkies and let good ol' Joe Arpaio sort 'em out."
[QUOTE=MrRalgoman;52606312]Okay, but he wasn't he going after illegals? At least give him that much. I hate how the media and left thinks illegals and immigrants are one and the same.[/QUOTE]
You are missing the point so fucking hard here. This isn't about sympathy for Illegal Immigration.
The worst part isn't even who he was "going after" but how he was doing it, and the zealous nature of his actions. He let real criminals operate freely because chasing down minorities and demanding to see their papers was his main concern.
People aren't angry that the dude arrested illegal immigrants, People are angry that he arrested anyone he could find of a certain ethnic background, even if he had no reason to suspect them of being an illegal immigrant, and then fucking tortured them to find out [i]if they had even committed a crime in the first place[/i].
Imagine getting detained, humiliated, and tortured, because you are white and ~white people commit [CRIME] more often than everyone else! so obviously we need to scoop up and detain any and all white people we find to see if they are guilty of [CRIME]~ and then having people say "lmao I don't see the problem here? can't you [political leaning] people tell the difference between a white person and someone who committed [CRIME]?, those were the only whiteys he was going after give him some credit!"
That's not how the law works, you can't just go after entire demographics without cause because they ~might~ have done something. Do you live in fucking Mega City One?
This also misses the point that even if you think it's totally okay to treat illegal immigrants like shit based purely on the fact that they might be illegal, he was doing it after the courts told him not to. Trump pardoning Arpaio would be undercutting the judicial branch and setting the precedent of Presidents pardoning criminals because it is politically expedient.
Obviously It goes without saying that it wouldn't be right to do this kind of thing to people even if they were undocumented immigrants staying in the country illegally- but I kinda wanted to focus on everything else wrong with what this fucking twat did for the benefit of people who might be heavily biased against illegal immigrants, and therefore willing to look the other way when they are invovled.
[media]http://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/900551246892982274[/media]
Also a quote from him: "My case is strictly a political hit"
it's not a matter of if, but when
when Arpaio is pardoned, i 100% expect there to be a surge of right-wing extremist violence
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52608486][media]http://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/900551246892982274[/media]
Also a quote from him: "My case is strictly a political hit"[/QUOTE]
Racist senior citizen lays groundwork for Second Confederate Uprising because he hates Latinos and doesn't want to go to jail for systematically abusing their rights for decades.
This is fine. :suicide:
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52608486][media]http://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/900551246892982274[/media][/QUOTE]
Twitter replies said it best: that's the whole point of the rule of law, lol. It's equal for everyone.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52608486][media]http://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/900551246892982274[/media]
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"If I'm not above the law, nobody is."
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;52608486][media]http://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/900551246892982274[/media]
Also a quote from him: "My case is strictly a political hit"[/QUOTE]
They can even go after the president.
[quote][b]This just in! CNN has recently discovered, through Trumps twitter feed, that the President has prepared the pardon papers for all 8,000 KKK members in advance and is threatening to use them if congress doesn't approve the federal budget to "Build That fu**ing Wall"[/b][/quote]
Well
[media]https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/901233201796055040[/media]
[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52613681]Well
[media]https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/901233201796055040[/media][/QUOTE]
this is gonan cause a massive constitutional crisis
[QUOTE=Judas;52613693]this is gonan cause a massive constitutional crisis[/QUOTE]
nothing matters
Absolute fucker.
[QUOTE=Nautsabes;52613705]nothing matters[/QUOTE]
you got that right~
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;52613253][QUOTE]This just in! CNN has recently discovered, through Trumps twitter feed, that the President has prepared the pardon papers for all 8,000 KKK members in advance and is threatening to use them if congress doesn't approve the federal budget to "Build That fu**ing Wall"[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Now that's what I call inviting an impeachment. Never mind Arpaio, that's bad enough, but preemptively pardoning the KKK is going to galvanize resistance to the white supremacists.
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