[QUOTE=xxncxx;44658100]What is this even referencing? A game came out, whoa Steam has a bad monopoly[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;FG6fo34JOAk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG6fo34JOAk[/video]
[QUOTE=Saphirx;44658505][video=youtube;FG6fo34JOAk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG6fo34JOAk[/video][/QUOTE]
i am pretty sure that was found to be a glitch. i did not know that only steam-released games could have glitches
[editline]27th April 2014[/editline]
kind of like how metal gear rising at pc release seemed to have always-online drm, but turned out to be a glitch and then patched out
[QUOTE=Phycosymo;44657743]Would you still think that monopolies can be good if Valve got a change in command and hiked up prices, installed spyware/rootkits on your computer and demanded always-online play for single player games? Remember that Blizzard went from battle.net to Diablo III.[/QUOTE]
What if Valve was actually powered by a furnace fueled by living children?
[url=http://store.steampowered.com/app/221300/]Valve does not have a monopoly[/url] and if you think they do then you don't know what a monopoly actually is.
[QUOTE=Paramud;44659446]What if Valve was actually powered by a furnace fueled by living children?
[url=http://store.steampowered.com/app/221300/]Valve does not have a monopoly[/url] and if you think they do then you don't know what a monopoly actually is.[/QUOTE]
Valve doesn't have a monopoly, but if they wanted to, they could. This isn't an argument against them (I think Steam is a great service), but it's reached the point where it's so large that there's virtually nothing reasonable they could do to make people stop using Steam. I mean, just look at PayPal - they're evil, terrible, and used everywhere. Steam has the potential to be PayPal.
What if you own physical copies of Civ III and Civ IV?
[QUOTE=supersnail11;44659877]there's virtually nothing reasonable they could do to make people stop using Steam.[/QUOTE]
No company has ever reached that point.
Maybe now I can actually play Civ V with friends.
[QUOTE=supersnail11;44659877]Valve doesn't have a monopoly, but if they wanted to, they could. This isn't an argument against them (I think Steam is a great service), but it's reached the point where it's so large that there's virtually nothing reasonable they could do to make people stop using Steam. I mean, just look at PayPal - they're evil, terrible, and used everywhere. Steam has the potential to be PayPal.[/QUOTE]
The thing is though that Paypal isn't evil and terrible to most people, and Steam isn't evil and terrible to almost anyone. People don't use these services because there's no other option, they use them because they're the best.
Is it just me or has GameSpy been in the process of shutting down for like a decade now? :v:
Wait, they published games with gamespy after 2005?
[QUOTE=Amakir;44659908]What if you own physical copies of Civ III and Civ IV?[/QUOTE]
Then prepare to be labeled a pirate by idiots.
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44660126]The thing is though that Paypal isn't evil and terrible to most people, and Steam isn't evil and terrible to almost anyone. People don't use these services because there's no other option, they use them because they're the best.[/QUOTE]
Especially in PayPal's case, it's gotten to the point where the network effect takes over. I can't use a PayPal alternative, because everyone I need to send money to uses PayPal. I can't use Origin over Steam because all my friends use Steam. I can't use Facebook over Google+, because no one uses Google+. Steam's value comes from its network (the players and the companies who publish through them), not the service itself.
[QUOTE=supersnail11;44660639]Especially in PayPal's case, it's gotten to the point where the network effect takes over. I can't use a PayPal alternative, because everyone I need to send money to uses PayPal. I can't use Origin over Steam because all my friends use Steam. I can't use Facebook over Google+, because no one uses Google+. Steam's value comes from its network (the players and the companies who publish through them), not the service itself.[/QUOTE]
yeah, steam as a program is buggy, crashes all the time, and far too slow, but since [I]everyone[/I] uses it you can't not use it. as a service it is pretty great, though, and that is why i use it. if there was an alternative steam client i could use though i would jump right on that
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;44660798]yeah, steam as a program is buggy, crashes all the time, and far too slow, but since [I]everyone[/I] uses it you can't not use it. as a service it is pretty great, though, and that is why i use it. if there was an alternative steam client i could use though i would jump right on that[/QUOTE]
Steam doesn't crash for me, but it can be buggy and slow
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;44659126]i am pretty sure that was found to be a glitch. i did not know that only steam-released games could have glitches
[editline]27th April 2014[/editline]
kind of like how metal gear rising at pc release seemed to have always-online drm, but turned out to be a glitch and then patched out[/QUOTE]
After some reading I learned that it is in fact a glitch (and will be removed).
Sweet but gamespy aoe were the days
Oh thank God. Last week I bought Civ 4 without researching it too much and when I started up multiplayer to play with a friend I noticed the GameSpy logo in the corner, to which I immediately said, "Fuck."
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;44660798]yeah, steam as a program is buggy, crashes all the time, and far too slow, but since [I]everyone[/I] uses it you can't not use it. as a service it is pretty great, though, and that is why i use it. if there was an alternative steam client i could use though i would jump right on that[/QUOTE]
I haven't experienced a crash in several years, really seldom encounter bugs and slow downs too.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;44656859]The only game I used it for was Medal of Honor Allied Assault.[/QUOTE]
The only two games I tried it with was BF1942 and Quake 3. I realized that after I installed and played with it a bit that the in-game server browsers were easier and consumed way less resources. It's kind of funny that ID Software still runs master servers for Quake 1-3 and people still play the games. Prozac QWTF is fun, especially with monsters.
My machine back then was an AMD Duron 800 with 256 MB of RAM and Windows 2000. By the time the dust settled with the OS loaded, I only had like 180 MB of RAM left and BF1942, Quake 3 and UT99 easily ate most of that. Gamespy wasn't worth the massive slowdown running in the background.
[QUOTE=Heigou;44662974]I haven't experienced a crash in several years, really seldom encounter bugs and slow downs too.[/QUOTE]
i crash occasionally when some games crash, and the ingame steam overlay is really slow as well. it is a lot better than it used to be, but it could still be better. might just be my computer, though
[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;44657259]Steam yet furthers it's monopoly on games.[/QUOTE]
sure steam is the biggest pc gaming client but it's far from a monopoly. GOG is another really big competitor and last i checked Origin still had a fairly substantial userbase.
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