Teacher stabbed to death at Leeds school - Polidicks

I have a knife at home but the only thing I use it for is opening boxes/parcels.

[QUOTE=KD007;44686167]Well let me answer these with a question of my own: is killing/stabbing the only thing knives are meant for?[/QUOTE] well no but why would you carry around a knife on the assumption that you would need to cut rope or whatever just as you're walking down the street? just as a utility you need kind of a reason to carry one around all the time, especially when you're like twelve years old

[QUOTE=KD007;44686167]Well let me answer these with a question of my own: is killing/stabbing the only thing knives are meant for?[/QUOTE] I had a knife to sharpen my pencils, and a few others for wood and linoleum, but they weren't hunting knifes soooooo...

The daily mail are already linking it to gaming. [QUOTE]The boy posted two prominent pictures on his profile – one of the Grim Reaper and another blurry shot of himself in a T-shirt with the branding of Achievement Hunter, a YouTube channel that features a group of six men devoted to violent video games such as Call of Duty, Halo and Grand Theft Auto.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616326/Boy-suspects-mother-holiday-Gran-Canaria-Further-details-emerge-teenager-accused-stabbing-teacher.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;44686214]The daily mail are already linking it to gaming. [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616326/Boy-suspects-mother-holiday-Gran-Canaria-Further-details-emerge-teenager-accused-stabbing-teacher.html[/url][/QUOTE] Fuuuck...

[QUOTE=Cone;44684649]see the only two reasons i can think of an eleven year old wanting to carry a knife with him everywhere he goes is if he's a child soldier or if he's come up with an overly elaborate fantasy necessitating its use. like you don't wanna hurt anyone cos you're eleven, so it must be stray dogs that you want to shank! i mean, it's gotta be, otherwise you wouldn't have a reason to carry around your sick lever-assisted matte black knife, which you are super educated on the applications of. only you never got out of that fantasy, so what was once a dumb kid with a very dangerous toy is now an adult carrying around a weapon in his pocket that he's always been fairly certain he'll one day use to disembowel a dog or two, or perhaps get himself killed because he's still mentally eleven.[/QUOTE] Or it could be that I was from a young age given a narrative by my parents of the dangers of the world and my possible demise if I'm not prepared, so they bought the first one for me (a 2 inch locking-blade partially serrated knife) for use in emergencies only. They included the above, and also attempted kidnapping, and cutting a seatbelt or child restraint after a car accident I've witnessed. I was specifically responding to his statement that using a knife under any circumstances would get you killed: also, the criteria for me using a knife against another person as I said require the immediate probable death of me or another civilian. Not exactly the disturbed persecution complex you make it out to be. If I were being mugged without the statement or indication that they intended to severely harm or kill me whether I cooperated or not, I would just hand over my money and things. It's just stuff. Sort of a similar approach that America has to gun possession, but revolving around a knife and it's utility. The second knife I came to own (and the one that's in my pocket today) was chosen because I realized that a knife that I needed two hands to effectively and reliably open compromised me in many situations, and that having one that could be opened with a small flick of the wrist meant I had the ability to get it out with one hand would allow me to use it even if my other arm were injured or pinned. The fact that it is now very quiet comes from years of wear and tear on the locking mechanism eventually smoothing out the edges to remove the audible click it had when I first purchased it. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Cone;44686206]well no but why would you carry around a knife on the assumption that you would need to cut rope or whatever just as you're walking down the street? just as a utility you need kind of a reason to carry one around all the time, especially when you're like twelve years old[/QUOTE] Such as cutting a seatbelt after a car accident, using the metal handle to break a car window with a baby locked inside and suffering in 100+ degree weather, or anything like that? When I was fourteen or fifteen, a drunk neighbor backed out of his driveway and hit another vehicle before tearing off. He made it about 400 feet before he collided with a parked pickup truck in a driveway and flipped over in a yard on the next street over. Me and my mother were the first on the scene, and she requested my knife so she could cut his shoulder strap after she assessed that he was fundamentally intact, but was struggling to breathe from the way he was hanging from his seatbelt. I handed it to her, and she called over a few neighbors to support him while she cut him loose. He was too drunk and stunned to put up much resistance, so they forced him lay flat on his back in the yard near the vehicle until the police and ambulance arrived.

Grow up in a very violent city and see if you don't think carrying a knife is a good idea. Whether you are armed or not, you're still going to get attacked in a lot of places.

[QUOTE=Shark Bones;44688727]Grow up in a very violent city and see if you don't think carrying a knife is a good idea. Whether you are armed or not, you're still going to get attacked in a lot of places.[/QUOTE] Weapons escalate conflict.

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44689235]Weapons escalate conflict.[/QUOTE] True, but in a lot of places, conflict is already escalated past that.

[QUOTE] Sgt-NiallR posted: Weapons escalate conflict.[/QUOTE] True - However, in a situation where you are almost certainly going to die or be disfigured for life it would be nice to have a fulcrum to help you change the situation. Perhaps you are okay with suddenly being dead or disabled because someone or some dog selected you, but I would like the chance to do everything I can to survive. I believe in no afterlife, and this existence is the only one I get. If a dog is latched onto one of my arms and I can get the chance to slip my knife in between its ribs or under its jaw, I will take that chance. If someone comes into a building I am in shooting rather than demanding money and blocking the only exit, I would like to have the chance to potentially catch them off guard and save other lives, if not my own. These may not be common situations where you live, but where I live situations can get pretty fucked, really fast. Why is it so hard to comprehend that I'm not talking about muggings or a drunk looking to brawl, I'm taking end-game situations for self defense. As I said, I would never brandish my knife if I truly needed to defend myself. The situation would already be so critical that by the time I used it, that it would be justified. [url]http://www.streetgangs.com/tag/fresn....7cFfdmYo.dpbs[/url] [QUOTE] Fresno Government Website: [url]http://www.co.fresno.ca.us/ViewDocument.aspx?id=45243[/url] Northwest Fresno and connected small cities: Estimated Gang Population: 1037 Sample of Identified Gangs: Biola Bulldogs, Easton Bull- dogs, Firebaugh Norteño 14, Mara Salvatrucha (MS 13), Mendota 13, Mendota Eastside (MES), Highway City Hoods (HCH), Northside Three Rock (NSTR), Westside Fire- baugh Norteño 14, Norte Brown Pride , Malandrines, Fire- baugh Sureno 13 , Bulldogs, Westside Mendota Bulldogs, Sureños North Fresno and Clovis Estimated Gang Population:4122 Segment of Identified Gangs: 209 Asian Crip (209 AC), 209 Crips, 209 Lao Crip (209LC), Eastside Fresno 14 (ESF14), Northern Structure (NS), Northside Bulldogs, Ruth Asian Posse (RAP), Ruthless Hmong Dynasty (RHD), North Side Piru (NSP), Juggalos, Fresno Sur 13, Pinedale Bulldogs, Asian Boyz, Khmer Pride, Laotian Bloods, Aryan Brotherhood, Fresno County Skins, Dirty White Boys, Featherwoods, Nazi Lowriders, Peckerwoods, Supreme White Power, White Pride, Men/Menace of Destruction, Oriental Ruthless Boys, Purple Brothers, Unrecognizable Criminals, The Ruth- less Unknown, Tiny Rascals Gang, Clovis Thai Lao Boys (CTLB) South Fresno County: Estimated Gang Population: 4150 Segment of Identified Gangs: Barrio Selma Rifa, Sureños, Varrio Orange Cove Bulldogs, Barrio Los Ares, Barrio Los Padrinos, Reedley Sur Gang, Varrio Eastside Reedley, Bulldogs, Sanger Sure- ños, Los Olivo Street Bulldogs, Chankla Bulldogs, Cypress boys, Varrio Colonia Parlier Norte, Sanger Boys (SGRBOYS), Sureno 13 Sanger (SUR13SGR), Selma Bulldogs, Selma Norte 14 (S14), Sureno 13 Selma (SUR13SEL), Selma Rifa Boys (VSRB), Varrio Parlier Rifa (VPLR), Brown Pride Huron (BPH), Huron 13, Huron 14, Huron Bulldogs, Brown Pride Coalinga (BPC), Coalinga Norteño 14, Coalinga 13 (COA13), Coalinga Norte Locos (CNL), Kingsburg Norteños (KN), Var- rio Orange Cove Rifa (VOCR), Malaga Bulldogs (MBDS), [/QUOTE] Map of known gang residences in my city alone: [IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/u0ckLL.jpg[/IMG] [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] And a map of established and defended territories. [IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/sJs6Fm.jpg[/IMG]