[QUOTE=Sobotnik;45003944]I hope he gets captured and taken through the legal process and given a fair hearing before sentencing, and that execution is not an option.[/QUOTE]
He's roaming the streets taking out RCMP like it's fucking GTA and hes hunting down cops.
But we can rehabilitate him...the one million bullet man!
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;45003952]We abolished the death penalty in the '70s. What I'm concerned about is the way our parole system works, this guy has the potential to be out in 25 years.[/QUOTE]
25 years is a big chunk of somebodies life.
Way I see it playing out is he's not gonna surrender and they're gonna shoot him dead.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;45003944]I hope he gets captured and taken through the legal process and given a fair hearing before sentencing, and that execution is not an option.[/QUOTE]
nah this fucker needs to die and for gods sake, banned you think it's so hard to kill one person from your own home which mind you if he isn't even paying attention he is a goner, you act like this guy is some super human that can out run a bullet.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;45003964]25 years is a big chunk of somebodies life.[/QUOTE]
So how does three dead cops rationalize only [I]25 years[/I] of anothers life when he took all of theirs?
It would take balls of steel to try and bring that guy in alive.
I wouldn't blame the RCMP for gunning him down in the street without warning.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;45003970]So how does three dead cops rationalize only [I]25 years[/I] of anothers life when he took all of theirs?[/QUOTE]
Because keeping somebody locked inside a building for several decades is seen by most civilized people as a form of psychological torture.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;45003964]25 years is a big chunk of somebodies life.[/QUOTE]
I agree, but when the argument for this is summed up in one sentence, the easy counter-argument is "so too are the decades he stole from those police officers", so let's not start this.
this is just... this is awful. My dad was in Moncton literally last weekend. I hate having this happen in my country. This is an awful feeling.
/k/ right now is jsut people talking about how someone should gun him down, it's not reassuring
[QUOTE=Mbbird;45003977]I agree, but when the argument for this is summed up in one sentence, the easy counter-argument is "so too are the decades he stole from those police officers", so let's not start this.[/QUOTE]
Well I'm going to bloody well start this. This is a place to debate things.
It is not justified to repay an act of cruelty with another.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;45003975]Because keeping somebody locked inside a building for several decades is seen by most civilized people as a form of psychological torture.[/QUOTE]
You dont think the families of 3 dead cops isnt going to go through an entire [I]lifetime[/I] of psychological torture?
Holy shit, that ain't good. Stay safe OP.
Also OP's avatar fits (kind of).
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;45003944]I hope he gets captured and taken through the legal process and given a fair hearing before sentencing, and that execution is not an option.[/QUOTE]
Are you kidding? He's Canadian, he'll just say "sorry," they'll say "sorry," then it's back to shooting again.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/NTX0aRr.png[/img]
uh oh
[QUOTE=Code3Response;45003987]You dont think the families of 3 dead cops isnt going to go through an entire [I]lifetime[/I] of psychological torture?[/QUOTE]
And what would punishing him harder hard archive?
Will killing him bring back these dead people?
Will ripping his toenails off make the world a better place?
Will inflicting more pain and suffering be justified?
When you put somebody through the justice system, the point is to reduce the total sum of misery in the world, not to exacerbate it.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;45003995][img]http://i.imgur.com/NTX0aRr.png[/img]
uh oh[/QUOTE]
great videogames jokes about some dude killing real actual human beings right now
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;45003964]25 years is a big chunk of somebodies life.[/QUOTE]
And to be honest, I think he should be locked up for the rest of his life doing manual labour if they catch him alive. There are some people who shouldn't get parole, he is one of them.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;45004005]And to be honest, I think he should be locked up for the rest of his life doing manual labour if they catch him alive. There are some people who shouldn't get parole, he is one of them.[/QUOTE]
Why for the rest of his life?
Why manual labour?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;45004001]And what would punishing him harder hard archive?
Will killing him bring back these dead people?
Will ripping his toenails off make the world a better place?
Will inflicting more pain and suffering be justified?
When you put somebody through the justice system, the point is to reduce the total sum of misery in the world, not to exacerbate it.[/QUOTE]
You can go ahead and unplug your keyboard and stop.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;45004001]When you put somebody through the justice system, the point is to reduce the total sum of misery in the world, not to exacerbate it.[/QUOTE]
And yet there are some who simply deserve it.
You don't "rehabilitate" mass murderers. You end them.
[QUOTE=Derpmeifter;45004002]great videogames jokes about some dude killing real actual human beings right now[/QUOTE]
it makes sense, people like to be as offensive as possible, lord knows I like to. for some it's hard to make sense of stuff like this is so this is what they do, I don't blame them
I'm not really laughing right now, but if you're on a different country, you know, it's not really happening to you, know what I mean? I understand
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;45004001]And what would punishing him harder hard archive?
Will killing him bring back these dead people?
Will ripping his toenails off make the world a better place?
Will inflicting more pain and suffering be justified?
When you put somebody through the justice system, the point is to reduce the total sum of misery in the world, not to exacerbate it.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to be perfectly honest with you and cut through the bullshit for a minute: if he doesnt surrender, he will be killed.
If he does surrender, theres not way Canada will let him out. He'll probably be facing 100years.
[QUOTE=confinedUser;45003881]no, i just know people who can actually use a damn gun a lot of them have automatics anyways so the second they start spraying your done fucked.[/QUOTE]
You'd have to be really stupid to use full auto on most firearms. Not only is it a huge waste of ammo, accuracy goes to hell.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;45004014]You don't "rehabilitate" mass murderers. You end them.[/QUOTE]
Why?
Please don't have a massive war over capital punishment.. we're here to see news to make sure this guy is taken into custody/put down, not to see an argument over the ethics of capital punishment. At least save it until peoples lives aren't in danger.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;45004014]And yet there are some who simply deserve it.
You don't "rehabilitate" mass murderers. You end them.[/QUOTE]
which is my point exactly. Arresting him isn't going to do shit he's just going to get out and do it again.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;45004023]I'm going to be perfectly honest with you and cut through the bullshit for a minute: if he doesnt surrender, he will be killed.
If he does surrender, theres not way Canada will let him out. He'll probably be facing 100years.[/QUOTE]
Of course, but we should be hoping that he gives up or is captured in some way instead of being killed.
[QUOTE=confinedUser;45004034]which is my point exactly. Arresting him isn't going to do shit he's just going to get out and do it again.[/QUOTE]
"But then we can just imprison him for a really long time!" Which will achieve nothing and, according to the other side, will "be torture" (oh boo hoo!)
"We can rehab--" no. no you can't. He's willingly taken the lives of other people without precedent, and is currently willing to do it again.
[QUOTE=confinedUser;45004034]which is my point exactly. Arresting him isn't going to do shit he's just going to get out and do it again.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure?
They have ways of figuring out a persons mental state in prison you know.
[QUOTE=Monk37900;45004032]Please don't have a massive war over capital punishment.. we're here to see news to make sure this guy is taken into custody/put down, not to see an argument over the ethics of capital punishment. At least save it until peoples lives aren't in danger.[/QUOTE]
But peoples lives are in danger all the time? Whatever happens in this thread isn't really going to impact what's going on over there, plus the fact that news comes in a series of updates, why can't we debate things in the thread as well?
Some of the issues around gun control and capital punishment are relevant in todays society and towards this event.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;45004030]Why?[/QUOTE]
Mass murders are the type of people who have gone above & beyond a redeemable human, that's why. Imagine James Holmes anywhere without restraints or armed men around him; that's a scary thought.
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