UK schools urged to fly the Union Flag and sing the national anthem in every assembly
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[QUOTE=MegaJohnny;44579262]No thanks. It still creeps the hell out of me how American school students are forced to recite the pledge of allegiance every day.[/QUOTE]
It's not as if the majority of us really care about it.
As a high school student I have to say it every day, but it's not as if it's anything more than mechanical at this point.
"Patriotism is a virtue of the wicked"
-Oscar Wilde
[QUOTE=maeZtro;44582558]"Patriotism is a virtue of the wicked"
-Oscar Wilde[/QUOTE]
"A witty saying proves nothing."
-Voltaire
[QUOTE=lazyguy;44582625]"A witty saying proves nothing."
-Voltaire[/QUOTE]
Does that not, in itself, prove nothing?
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;44582639]Does that not, in itself, prove nothing?[/QUOTE]
Give this man a coconut.
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;44581768]Read more in the Saturday Edition of the Daily Mail[/QUOTE]
No this is actually a thing, the police are seriously looking into it. But it is like 2 or 3 "free" schools.
Fuck that. I'm not singing because the government fuckin says so. Hitler forced the Nazis to sing. I swear if I get told to sing by a teacher I will straight out fucking flip.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;44577400]In the US this is pretty much routine in elementary schools. We always did the pledge of allegiance before class starts.[/QUOTE]
In High School we do the Pledge of Allegiance [I]and[/I] the National Anthem.
When you go through it freshman, sophomore, junior, and senior year you become numb to the world whenever it plays. They play a version where it gets drawn out as long as possible.
I'm against nationalism myself. I find it harmful to objective criticisms of your own country. Ironically, not being a patriot is much better for your country in my eyes. The people who are most invested in you being a patriot are the people governing you, and it always has been that way. Why? So they can get you to stop criticizing them and start signing up for the military, usually. We should not be attempting to indoctrinate children who lack critical thinking skills and the ability to stand up for and completely think for themselves into this. It's just not right.
And having studied my own country's history, nationalism here has [I]always[/I] been a cause, or justification, of xenophobia, racism, suppression of your rights, war, and violence. So color me a little biased against nationalism in general, but no thank you.
[QUOTE=MegaJohnny;44579262]No thanks. It still creeps the hell out of me how American school students are forced to recite the pledge of allegiance every day.[/QUOTE]
Nobody really gives a fuck if you do or not.
In Canada, at least where I went to a school, we only had the anthem until the end of middle school, we didn't have it in high school
[QUOTE=RichyZ;44586132]untrue
i know a few people who have been suspended for refusing to say it[/QUOTE]
Where I live you might get a weird look for refusing to say it outright but no one would care, hell a couple of my teachers don't say it for their own personal reasons.
If people get offended by the flag of the country that they immigrated to, maybe they should have thought of going to a different area.
Here's an idea, scrap the school assembly altogether, it was a waste of my damn time when i was at school i highly doubt that changed.
I admit i'm biased against it because it practically gave me chronic back pain being forced to sit cross legged on a freezing cold wooden floor in a cramped hall with 800 other students. honestly you can't imagine how fucking awful it was being 16 years old and 6ft+ tall, and having to sit in a space smaller than a bloody postage stamp, that's about as close to torture iv'e ever been.
I thought the flag was only called the Union Jack when it was flown on ships?
Anyway, it's still not as bad as the USA.
Every single morning before the first class in every single school I went to (7 Different schools in 3 different cities) we had to stand up, face the American flag which is hanging in every classroom, put our hand on our hearts, and Pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the USA, for which it stands, One nation, UNDER GOD (This part wasn't even part of the pledge until the 50's). How do you think someone who's Muslim or a Sihk feels about it? Didn't matter, they did it, too or they went to the office in my schools
Not all American schools are like this, some flat out don't care if you do it or not, and rightly so, but some are fucking anal about it
[url]https://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/10/8853[/url] for example
By the time American teenagers get to the upper class grades of high school only 2/3 of the class ever actually stand up and only 1/3 actually sing it.
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Most have taken to skipping the retarded "under god" part too.
Well the national anthem is "God save our gracious Queen"
The song 'God Save the Queen' Would be banned as a cruel and unusual punishment if I had enough power. That song is so boring.
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[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44588947]If people get offended by the flag of the country that they immigrated to, maybe they should have thought of going to a different area.[/QUOTE]
The Union Flag (and the Welsh flag) seem a bit weird to me if it is larger than a postcard. I'm a White Welsh Brit.
Can we have the verse back about killing rebellious Scots if they get independence.
No hard feelings to any Scottish people here but it would be funny.
[QUOTE=kaze4159;44577403]I don't understand why schools and places like to force the anthem at you to be "patriotic"
I mean I fucking love my country, but I still don't know or care about the anthem (Plus it's a pretty shit song)[/QUOTE]
Don't you dare call Anarchy in the UK a shit song
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