Sanders Campaign Says Photo Proves Clinton Broke Rules During Univision Debate - Polidicks

[QUOTE=lope;49909716]Why won't Sanders call her out on this at the next debate?[/QUOTE] Clinton voters genuinely do not give a fuck what Clinton does, they want her regardless. There's plenty of reasons to hate Clinton already, anybody who has looked past the mountain of evidence that she's worthless is going to have no trouble ignoring her walking around with her aides during a commercial break.

At this point Clinton is the Trump of the democratic side of the election, she and her husband can keep doing wrong and nothing will happen. Her campaign is under absolutely no scrutiny.

Whoever is in charge of enforcing debate rules sorely needs to be fired if this election is anything to go by.

So is there supposed to be a punishment for this violation, or is it just considered rude?

[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;49910087]So is there supposed to be a punishment for this violation, or is it just considered rude?[/QUOTE] DNC head is Hillary's good friend. Nothing will come of it.

[QUOTE=BelatedGamer;49910087]So is there supposed to be a punishment for this violation, or is it just considered rude?[/QUOTE] DNC is suppose to do something but why would they

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49909649]Unless someone can prove me wrong, and isn't biased heavily towards Sanders, I want legit sources that Sanders isn't going to lose here.[/QUOTE] "Prove to me that God is real. If you believe in God, you can't answer." You're asking for proof that Sanders won't lose, which is impossible enough to provide (unless there are some clairvoyants among us that I'm unaware of), and then go on to state that people who support Sanders aren't allowed to answer, which immediately discards any potentially relevant insights or evidence that people who have a serious interest in actually [I]trying[/I] to "prove you wrong" might bring to the table.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49910216]"Prove to me that God is real. If you believe in God, you can't answer." You're asking for proof that Sanders won't lose, which is impossible enough to provide (unless there are some clairvoyants among us that I'm unaware of), and then go on to state that people who support Sanders aren't allowed to answer, which immediately discards any potentially relevant insights or evidence that people who have a serious interest in actually [I]trying[/I] to "prove you wrong" might bring to the table.[/QUOTE] Sorry, I should have rephrased that as "I want legit sources that Sanders still has some chance of winning and not letting this obvious bitch get away with everything simply just because."

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49910571]Sorry, I should have rephrased that as "I want legit sources that Sanders still has some chance of winning and not letting this obvious bitch get away with everything simply just because."[/QUOTE] 538 has a pretty good rundown, he has a chance, but only if he starts to out perform her and take States by wide margins instead of the small %, winning Ohio and Florida would greatly help his chances too

[QUOTE=Sableye;49910691]538 has a pretty good rundown, he has a chance, but only if he starts to out perform her and take States by wide margins instead of the small %, winning Ohio and Florida would greatly help his chances too[/QUOTE] I say if he wins Florida it's over for the Clinton campaign. I'm not expecting it (closed primary meaning independents have to switch or just not vote, and they're one of his biggest "firewalls"; plus lots of old people), but if our campaign somehow convinces enough people to vote Bernie, and he wins in Florida, the momentum for him going into all of the northern state primaries would be so great I don't think he could lose.

She's going to get away with it and this will be another on the list.

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;49910897]She's going to get away with it and this will be another on the list.[/QUOTE] You know what, I think I'm now solid on what I'm gonna do for the main election. If this bitch, who keeps fucking and tripping and still comes out on top wins the primaries, fuck everything, fuck the system, and fuck the government, I'm gonna vote for Trump just because fuck it. I'm upset because she really shouldn't be anywhere right now, but she is just because of her Husband, and because of merely being a woman, suddenly everyone forgot all of her scandals and happily overlook her shortcomings just because it means she get's to be the first lady president of America, and these idiots get to ride their high horses like they've made a big historical contribution, when it's no fucking better than voting for Obama, not because of his ideals or plans, but because he's black, and that's it. Please win Sanders, I believe in you. Help me believe the American system can still work.

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49910571]this obvious bitch[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49910989]If this bitch[/QUOTE] Is that inflammatory language really necessary? I'm in no way a fan of Clinton but that just seems really lowbrow.

[QUOTE=Bradyns;49911023]Is that inflammatory language really necessary? I'm in no way a fan of Clinton but that just seems really lowbrow.[/QUOTE] I admit, I'm posting while upset, but only because after all the recent stuff and the convention last night and now this thread, I just think if Hiliary actually wins despite all of these allegations, then I can finally have a reason to enter the "Democracy" is dead camp with the others. At this point I'm not even sure whose winning, everyone says one thing or another. I'm just on the verge of giving up on this country if we actually keep allowing this crap to pass over, simply because Hiliary either has folks in her pocket, or because she's a woman.

It feels like watergate could happen all over again currently and it wouldn't be a big deal.

[QUOTE=dark-vivec;49911300]It feels like watergate could happen all over again currently and it wouldn't be a big deal.[/QUOTE] Well I mean, there's the whole email scandal that's somehow not affecting her very much

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49910989]You know what, I think I'm now solid on what I'm gonna do for the main election. If this bitch, who keeps fucking and tripping and still comes out on top wins the primaries, fuck everything, fuck the system, and fuck the government, I'm gonna vote for Trump just because fuck it. I'm upset because she really shouldn't be anywhere right now, but she is just because of her Husband, and because of merely being a woman, suddenly everyone forgot all of her scandals and happily overlook her shortcomings just because it means she get's to be the first lady president of America, and these idiots get to ride their high horses like they've made a big historical contribution, when it's no fucking better than voting for Obama, not because of his ideals or plans, but because he's black, and that's it. Please win Sanders, I believe in you. Help me believe the American system can still work.[/QUOTE] In many areas Hillary has more moderate versions of Sanders' views. She has done very questionable things, but she's a lot better than any of the Republican frontrunners.

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49910989]You know what, I think I'm now solid on what I'm gonna do for the main election. If this bitch, who keeps fucking and tripping and still comes out on top wins the primaries, fuck everything, fuck the system, and fuck the government, I'm gonna vote for Trump just because fuck it. I'm upset because she really shouldn't be anywhere right now, but she is just because of her Husband, and because of merely being a woman, suddenly everyone forgot all of her scandals and happily overlook her shortcomings just because it means she get's to be the first lady president of America, and these idiots get to ride their high horses like they've made a big historical contribution, when it's no fucking better than voting for Obama, not because of his ideals or plans, but because he's black, and that's it. Please win Sanders, I believe in you. Help me believe the American system can still work.[/QUOTE] Voting out of spite seems counter intuitive

[QUOTE=cdr248;49911445]Voting out of spite seems counter intuitive[/QUOTE] voting for someone whose views are essentially the opposite of your initial choice, even more so

[QUOTE=Altimor;49911441]In many areas Hillary has more moderate versions of Sanders' views. She has done very questionable things, but she's a lot better than any of the Republican frontrunners.[/QUOTE] Honestly this election is confusing. One moment I keep Hiliary as my backup, then after shit like this happens several times and when it threatens to kick Sanders off, I get pissed and want to go for Trump. I haven't even read into Hiliary's stuff nor Trump's nor Sanders, I'm just going along with the flow of "Sanders is the best choice ever and I'd be stupid for not going for him." [editline]11th March 2016[/editline] What's worse is I try to relax and get my bearings straight, only to see Clinton do something again and make me worry moreso about her winning over Sanders.

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49911525]Honestly this election is confusing. One moment I keep Hiliary as my backup, then after shit like this happens several times and when it threatens to kick Sanders off, I get pissed and want to go for Trump. I haven't even read into Hiliary's stuff nor Trump's nor Sanders, I'm just going along with the flow of "Sanders is the best choice ever and I'd be stupid for not going for him."[/QUOTE] here's a crazy idea, how about you form your own god damn opinion

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49911540]here's a crazy idea, how about you form your own god damn opinion[/QUOTE] Maybe I will if you didn't sound like an ass while I'm basically admitting I'm conflicted and letting myself be led by the public/popular opinion of the internet because I'm lazy and trying not to make myself look more stupid than I already am.

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49911552]Maybe I will if you didn't sound like an ass while I'm basically admitting I'm conflicted and letting myself be led by the public/popular opinion of the internet because I'm lazy and trying not to make myself look more stupid than I already am.[/QUOTE] yeah you've had months to take not even 30 minutes of your time and read up on the candidates, but clearly you didn't do it (and apparently can't do it now) because i'm an ass

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49911558]yeah you've had months to take not even 30 minutes of your time and read up on the candidates, but clearly you didn't do it (and apparently can't do it now) because i'm an ass[/QUOTE] I didn't mean it literally, I mean I'm basically admitting I'm fucking up on a public forum again, I would appreciate it if I wan't talked down like that while I cry for help. I could look into Hiliary, but then all the anti-Hillary folks here would get on my ass, same for if I found some points to agree with on trump.

Honestly, I don't mind if people vote for the other candidates as long as they have solid logical reasoning behind it. It gets my goat when people are like "I WANA VOET 4 TURMP 'CUZ HE SEZ WUT HE WANTS AND HE'LL MAKE AMUKA GR8 AGAN" Likewise when someone's only reason for voting for Hilary is "She's a gurl"

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49911579]I didn't mean it literally, I mean I'm basically admitting I'm fucking up on a public forum again, I would appreciate it if I wan't talked down like that while I cry for help. I could look into Hiliary, but then all the anti-Hillary folks here would get on my ass, same for if I found some points to agree with on trump.[/QUOTE] If someone "gets on your ass" over your opinion, then they're an asshole anyways. You shouldn't be afraid to educate yourself.

[QUOTE=Altimor;49911587]If someone "gets on your ass" over your opinion, then they're an asshole anyways. You shouldn't be afraid to educate yourself.[/QUOTE] Honestly when these moments happen for me I can't help but feel like the whole forum is watching, and then certain folks will come down just to make fun of me like my earlier days on FP.

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49911597]Honestly when these moments happen for me I can't help but feel like the whole forum is watching, and then certain folks will come down just to make fun of me like my earlier days on FP.[/QUOTE] Because we are, but by asking to be educated you're already better than 90% of the American Electorate so don't feel bad.

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49911579]I didn't mean it literally, I mean I'm basically admitting I'm fucking up on a public forum again, I would appreciate it if I wan't talked down like that while I cry for help. I could look into Hiliary, but then all the anti-Hillary folks here would get on my ass, same for if I found some points to agree with on trump.[/QUOTE] Why don't you just Google something on your own instead of letting strangers with no tangible impact in your real life decide for yourself. Also I recommend talking to people who aren't as biased against or support Hillary for another opinion. Facepunch is great and all but it's political leanings are usually pretty one sided.

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;49911597]Honestly when these moments happen for me I can't help but feel like the whole forum is watching, and then certain folks will come down just to make fun of me like my earlier days on FP.[/QUOTE] In the time that it's taken you to continue to talk about this you could've easily gotten a basic understanding of each of the candidates proposed policies. As a citizen it's your civic duty to make an informed decision on these things. I'm far more annoyed by people who blindly support candidates than those who support candidates I don't agree with. Even those that just don't vote aren't as bad because they aren't making a decision that they know nothing about. I'm sorry but not even attempting to form your own opinion because it might differ from others is just terrible.