what was the time span between the concept art and the release for Portal 2? This art may be old, but it could mean that HL3 is around the corner!
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Most of all I don't think EP3 will even live up to the hype anymore, so it might end up like Duke Nukem Forever.[/QUOTE]
I have high hopes. It's Valve and besides, they're not changing the game's engine every year and completely scrap the previous version.
[QUOTE=Medevilae;36522899]1. Valve calls it Half Life 3
2. After years of hype it is inevitable that Valve cannot sustain the episodic framework and produce a title that will meet up to people's expectations
3. Source is getting old- it's time for a new engine, and Valve puts out their new tech with Half Life titles (speculation, but may be contributing to the delay)
4. The HL2 story arch basically ended with Episode 2
5. The game has been under development far to long for it to be an episode, both logically and for the reason @ point 2
6. [B][I][U]Valve has called it Half Life 3 already[/U][/I][/B][/QUOTE]
What kind of a story arch ends with a cliff-hanger?
Looking (very, very) far into the future, I just know we will wait for HL3 the same way after Ep3 comes out and we've all finished it.
[QUOTE=Medevilae;36523051]call it whatever you want, I'll refer to it by what they've been referring to it as[/QUOTE]
Every other piece of info aside from Chet who was talking about the HL3 t-shirt has referred to it as EP3.
[QUOTE=T.F.W.O.;36523094]what was the time span between the concept art and the release for Portal 2? This art may be old, but it could mean that HL3 is around the corner![/QUOTE]
What does Portal 2 have to do with anything?
Valve has never been consistent with their releases. They all come when they come. Not like Rockstar who releases GTA games to different systems every six months after initial release.
[QUOTE=Pelvic Thrust;36523129]What kind of a story arch ends with a cliff-hanger?[/QUOTE]
mass effect 3
[QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;36523114]I have high hopes. It's Valve and besides, they're not changing the game's engine every year and completely scrap the previous version.[/QUOTE]
Yeah well, I can forgive them if they use Source on EP3, but really, if HL3 looks like every other Source game, I'm gonna be dissappointed.
[QUOTE=Jericho_Rus;36523178]mass effect 3[/QUOTE]That's more like a feces whirlpool.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;36523158]What does Portal 2 have to do with anything?
Valve has never been consistent with their releases. They all come when they come. Not like Rockstar who releases GTA games to different systems every six months after initial release.[/QUOTE]
Just a comparison and a hunch. If I remember correctly, Portal 2 was released like a year later after the artwork was revealed.
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6. [B][I][U]Valve has called it Half Life 3 already[/U][/I][/B][/QUOTE]
by that logic can i call it Ricochet 2?????
[QUOTE=Francisco;36523287]by that logic can i call it Ricochet 2?????[/QUOTE]
Wow, never heard that one before!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't Valve been multitasking their projects for a while? HL2 was about to be released by the time Ep.1 was already in post-concept stages, was it not? If this is correct, chances are they've already got people on board to link the HL2 continuity to a potential HL3 in the near future, not to mention concept artists at work along with them.
[QUOTE=assassin1421;36515203]I meant that the guns AREN'T futuristic like the pulse rifle[/QUOTE]
holy fuck, so dumb
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;36522012]No, it would still be Episode 3. They are done with the Episodic Model after Episode 3. Half-Life 3 will be an entirely separate entity if it ever actually exists. Each one deals with a separate incident. Half-Life, Half-Life: Blue Shift, Half-Life: Opposing Force, and Half-Life: Decay all deal with the Black Mesa Incident. Half-Life 2 and the Episodes all deal with the Resistance against the Combine. Half-Life 3 will deal with something else entirely.[/QUOTE]
So basically another "Black mesa incident"
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;36522161]Half-Life 3 would probably be either a war on the Combine homeworld type thing, or fighting against the GMan and his employers.[/QUOTE]
You just completely missed the point of GMan
going to repost something, my theories on the gman, old and unedited
[quote][SUB]GMan is purely made to be a completely ominous and unpredictable being. He is built on the image of suspense and mystery. Making "What he is" known is stupid because it completely contradicts everything he is meant to be.
It's like making Yoda from Star Wars fight. The entire symbol and point of Yoda is will power and wisdom greatly outmatches any physical strength. As cool as it would be to know what Gman is, or see Yoda fight, it entirely misses the point and just ruins it. Same with Slenderman, what makes Slenderman the perfect horror creature is that he's so impossible to predict and has impossible to understand motives that are far too invisible to human beings that no one could possibly comprehend him. It's like tasting forbidden fruit, you're not supposed to know the reason behind why it's forbidden, and as sweet as it is to taste, the results are sour in the bigger picture of it, and the joy of it isn't actually what you imagined, there is no real consequence other than learning that it would've been better if you left if a mystery. Oh and guess what, that forbidden fruit is just a regular apple, great fucking job, you ruined the fun of it by tasting it!
Though the thing with Gman is deception, from what I'm starting to theorize is that he caused the BM incident, that was entirely his doing. The combine or xen creatures aren't actually the true enemies of Gordon, they're enemies, but they are there by Gman's hand. The real enemy in Half-life could possibly be someone entirely different, and someone who was in front of you the entire time. That someone is of greater power than everyone in this entire situation however, far more subtle and casual than anyone, far more manipulative in a purely sociopathic way, as if he's trying to destroy either Earth and the combine or using Earth to destroy the combine itself, and he wants to be subtle and intelligent about it. The motives are unpredictable but I feel using Earth in order to destroy the combine is the best one. The thing about him however, is even though he is a being of greater power, he's simply a pawn, and his 'employers' are on the greatest scale in the series. One could even say his employers are the Illuminati if they want, at least, they are an Illuminati in what I see, they are always watching and have an unknowable motive of a new world order of some sort... yes, I just said the Illuminati is in the half life series, do you know why? Because obviously his interests have to be in some way a new world order, what other purpose would there be in this and why are his "employers" so unknown? Gman is simply an all seeing eye and a courier to this higher power, nothing more than a pawn.
All in all, with this theory, you end up with a pawn who is simply the image and illusion of something even greater than anything on any scale in this story, and a sociopath with unknown motives who (His employers) wants to seek something. Possibly the ultimate goal is stopping the combine from taking everything over using Earth as his tool? Or Seeking ultimate control (with what he can do already however, that seems silly), maybe he is a true psychopath who wishes for everything to burn and smolder and cry slowly until there is nothing left? Maybe he simply works for the highest bidder (Sounds silly as well however)? Or perhaps he is simply a pure figment of Gordon's imagination and Gordon is the one with sociopathic motives and doesn't even realize this (Which is just silly). Obviously he's using Gordon as a tool, but what? What could his motives POSSIBLY be?
Ultimately, GMan is nothing but a tool by Valve so that people will have something to talk about. I think GMan is a good example of a great idea. Having things like this that divert you from the actual game is what makes Half-life such an amazing story, you never know what you'll get. The reason I think they won't simply explain him is because simply saying he is from an Illuminati is far too cliche and boring, and misses the point of him.
You're not supposed to know about the Illuminati, after all. Why tell people the motives of a being with interests that are on a much grander scale than human interests? Also, just look at Deus Ex, the more you learn about the Illuminati, the less you know, why? Because their motives cannot be seen by any normal man or woman, their motives are on such a grand scale that they tower over above anything any human being can even comprehend. The illuminati is something so vague and mysterious that the more you find out, the more you realize you're chasing a ghost that isn't there, and the more you try and continue, it will always deceive you and always out smart you. Gman will always do this, because gman is something above everything else and cannot be known. All in all, the real question is, does the illuminati exist? or is it simply a figment of your imagination? It's a question humanity must ask itself as well, and it's exactly what gman is... an illusion with motives.
As for Nihilanth and his pawns being someone running from the combine, his home world is not Xen, he is simply someone who escaped the combines control, and the combine being the new controllers of Earth... this is something that makes GMan even more mysterious, and makes him look even more sociopathic. Also remember that Gman may as well been the one who led Gordon to kill breen, and possibly even the combine to kill Eli, and warned that going to the borealis would lead to "Unforeseen consquences", this makes him look like an enemy of everyone in this entire storyline. Why is he doing this? Maybe because he wants you to know that he is in power and you are just a pawn. Or maybe he's helping Gordon? And warning them not to go to the borealis? Then why would he have Gordon kill Nihilanth and why wouldn't Nihilanth work with Gordon in a "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" way? But... GMan saved Alyx twice, so why is he against them and why is he using Gordon? There are so many deceptions, contradictions and impossible to read things going behind the scenes with gman that it almost seems like Valve has no idea what they're doing, however, ultimately, they do, because that is the POINT. To deceive everyone in the story, and to deceive the player into wondering about GMan's motives, which means gman is a tool to trick the player into thinking something goes one way when it goes in a completely different direction. All in all, GMan's warning doesn't have to mean that there will be another black mesa incident, no one could possibly know, so trying to figure out his motives only leads you to chasing a ghost that isn't there.
While a lot of his actions seem to contradict themselves, that's the point, you can't understand his motives, he's above all human understanding and comprehension, even when he stabs you in the back, it's impossible to understand why... but understand this, once his unknown goal with you is done, you will likely smolder and die under his incomprehensible powers as some expendable flesh being. Do not underestimate the Illuminati that is the Gman.
Wow... I'm fucking batshit crazy...[/SUB]
[B]TL;DR Gman is a representative of a sociopathic Illuminati with unforeseeable motives and everyone else is also his own pawn. He is morally gray, unpredictable, and powerful beyond the players imagination.[/B][/quote]
FURTHER ON, let me talk about breen
I believe breen may not have been truly 'evil', sure he did look power hungry and tyrannical, but I believe that maybe he saw that if he didn't surrender the humans and "prove their worth" the combine (actual race) would have simply wiped the planet clean in order to gather every resource on the entire planet, until it's utterly raw. Breen DID speak of immortality, obviously he was fascinated by them, so maybe he was psychotic and tyrannical after all? I don't know.
[t]http://massiveblack.com/workshopsf/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/wicklund-5.jpg[/t]
I was hoping this was a sassy black lady for the next Half Life.
But they're just Rochelle concepts, and we all know how [B]she[/B] turned out.
Yeah. I never saw Breen as a bad guy. If Freeman is the right man in the wrong place, Breen was the wrong man in the right place. If someone better than Breen was in office, Earth might not have been so oppressed, but it seemed like he was trying his best, and his broadcasts felt genuine.
[editline]27th June 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Fuck You!;36523503][t]http://massiveblack.com/workshopsf/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/wicklund-5.jpg[/t]
I was hoping this was a sassy black lady for the next Half Life.
However looking at it, pretty sure they're Rochelle concepts posted to show the artists previous work, and we all know how [B]she[/B] turned out.[/QUOTE]
Valve should have removed Coach and added in their idea of a cranky old lady who used to run a DMV instead. Then they should have turned Rochelle into a sassy independent black lady who don't need no infection.
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;36523518]added in their idea of a cranky old lady who used to run a DMV instead. Then they should have turned Rochelle into a sassy independent black lady who don't need no infection.[/QUOTE]
I would play the game 700% more.
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;36523518]Yeah. I never saw Breen as a bad guy. If Freeman is the right man in the wrong place, Breen was the wrong man in the right place. If someone better than Breen was in office, Earth might not have been so oppressed, but it seemed like he was trying his best, and his broadcasts felt genuine.
[editline]27th June 2012[/editline]
Valve should have removed Coach and added in their idea of a cranky old lady who used to run a DMV instead. Then they should have turned Rochelle into a sassy independent black lady who don't need no infection.[/QUOTE]
A sassy black woman duo
best fucking team in the world
just make a game about sassy black assassin womans. The skinny one will be skilled, and the big one will have massive strength. :v:
I wish these were higher resolution so I could use them as wallpapers.
I don't know why people are still claiming the next Half-Life will still be part of the episodic model, it's been almost 5 years and nothing's even been announced.
Two wallpapers! (1920x1080)
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/HBf0i.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/Von9I.jpg[/img_thumb]
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;36523701]I don't know why people are still claiming the next Half-Life will still be part of the episodic model, it's been almost 5 years and nothing's even been announced.[/QUOTE]
i dont know why people even care right now
[QUOTE=Roof;36523771]i dont know why people even care right now[/QUOTE]
Because it's Half-Life.
i give it 3 years.
[QUOTE=dedo678;36523705]Two wallpapers! (1920x1080)
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/HBf0i.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/Von9I.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
Lossy as fuck
[QUOTE=just-a-boy;36523388]Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't Valve been multitasking their projects for a while? HL2 was about to be released by the time Ep.1 was already in post-concept stages, was it not? If this is correct, chances are they've already got people on board to link the HL2 continuity to a potential HL3 in the near future, not to mention concept artists at work along with them.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure EP 1 and 2 were suppose to be parts of Half Life 2, but they didn't want it as long and made them into their own separate games. That's why they were shorter.
[QUOTE=Pelvic Thrust;36523971]Lossy as fuck[/QUOTE]
Best I could do with quite low resolution pictures, I apologize.
[QUOTE=dedo678;36524154]Best I could do with quite low resolution pictures, I apologize.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, it's coo'.
[QUOTE=Xenomoose;36522927]The Combine empire is too big to destroy. The most you could hope for would be to completely cut their universe off from ours (and I think that was already accomplished in Episode 2).[/QUOTE]
The Combine Empire is too big for [B]humanity[/B] to destroy. It doesn't necessarily have to be that way for everyone.
I am now sporting a full erection
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