Mitt Romney - Says no to "Marriage Vow," Stands Alone - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Reimu;31101253]I don't agree with Ron Paul, and I've seen him at times act on the same level as other politicians, but I do have to respect the fact that he sticks to his own views and some of his core issues are also some of the issues Americans aren't comfortable facing. I wouldn't vote for Paul, but if I ever enter a public political office, he'd be a strong inspiration. [/QUOTE] Another person who kind of fits that description (but from my point of view) is Barry Goldwater, I don't really know all the ins and outs of him but from what I've seen from a basic knowledge and a few quotes he seems like a pretty cool guy, what with his insistence in keeping his relgion out of public policy, and acceptance of homosexuality( to a extent) “It’s time America realized that there is no gay exemption in the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in the Declaration of Independence.” "You don't need to be straight to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight." "I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass." "Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them." [editline]13th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31102088]I'd vote for Mitt Romeny. As a Libertarian, I believe that economic and social freedom are equally important. Social Conservatism is on the way out, and gays deserve equal rights, regardless of personal morals. Obama has also led this country very poorly, and a change in leadership is greatly needed. Ron Paul would be a great candidate as well, but the chances of him winning are slim to none.[/QUOTE] What does being a libertarian have to do with voting for Romney?, he's probably the most Fascist/left leaning Republican running, what with his whole Romney-care thing.

[QUOTE=Reimu;31097833]That's a strong possibility, especially in areas that aren't as open-minded. But, then again, Glenn Beck is a Mormon and he has a huge following of Conservatives. I think there's no doubt about it, though, that Obama is going to have a 2nd term. The country just doesn't feel ready for another GOP president.[/QUOTE] Glenn Beck is a Jack Mormon, he doesn't count.

[QUOTE=Novistador;31102280]What does being a libertarian have to do with voting for Romney?, he's probably the most [B]Fascist/left leaning[/B] Republican running, what with his [B]whole Romney-care[/B] thing.[/QUOTE] a. what b. double what

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31102475]a. what b. double what[/QUOTE] When you combine the Social-Conservatism of the right, with the Government Controls of the Left what you get is Fascism. And considering Romney did exactly what Obama was trying to do nationally with regard to healthcare, but on a state level it would seem to me that he has Fascist leanings, though probably not explicitly.

[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;31102412]Glenn Beck is a Jack Mormon, he doesn't count.[/QUOTE] To expand further, this is why he said he took up a religion. "I apologize, but guys will understand this. My wife is, like, hot, and she wouldn’t have sex with me until we got married. And she wouldn’t marry me unless we had a religion". Though I don't believe that comment is all that serious and is meant more to be funny. I'm sure sex did play a role though.

[QUOTE=Reimu;31102154]Hmm, would you be able to expand on that? Not that I want to argue about it, just curious.[/QUOTE] Sure. During his first year, he completely used his momentum to push forward an expensive bailout which ultimately ended up funding wasteful spending projects, most notably the infamous "African Genital-Washing Program". Afterwards, he spearheaded the National Healthcare plan, which forces all states to adopt the federal program. "Romney-care" differs from this, as it is a state program, not a national program, meaning non-supporters have the ability to move to a different state if they prefer a more traditional healthcare system. Obama then proceeded to renew the Patriot Act, and he involved the US in yet another war overseas which we cannot afford. Regardless of my opinion on the war, he has violated the "War Powers Act of 1973", as he has not asked Congress to declare war. According to the law, we have passed the deadline to withdraw our forces, as it grants a 30 day removal period, which expired in late June. On top of all this, I personally dislike him for his arrogance and his attitude. He lacks respect towards his political opponents, which has arguably caused a gigantic rift between the right and left. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, but that's my opinion on him. I'm sure plenty of people here will disagree with me, and that's fine.

you didn't say "uppity". gj.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31102636]Sure. During his first year, he completely used his momentum to push forward an expensive bailout which ultimately ended up funding wasteful spending projects, most notably the infamous "African Genital-Washing Program". Afterwards, he spearheaded the National Healthcare plan, which forces all states to adopt the federal program. "Romney-care" differs from this, as it is a state program, not a national program, meaning non-supporters have the ability to move to a different state if they prefer a more traditional healthcare system. Obama then proceeded to renew the Patriot Act, and he involved the US in yet another war overseas which we cannot afford. Regardless of my opinion on the war, he has violated the "War Powers Act of 1973", as he has not asked Congress to declare war. According to the law, we have passed the deadline to withdraw our forces, as it grants a 30 day removal period, which expired in late June. On top of all this, I personally dislike him for his arrogance and his attitude. He lacks respect towards his political opponents, which has arguably caused a gigantic rift between the right and left. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, but that's my opinion on him. I'm sure plenty of people here will disagree with me, and that's fine.[/QUOTE] If Obama's health care plan is wrong to apply on a Federal level, then its wrong to apply on the state level. I find that you think "Well they could always quit their jobs, sell their homes, uproot their lives and move to another state if they disagreed" to be a good argument to be hilarious.

I live around alot of mormons, I actually think that type of person would make an great president, but their beliefs are crazy. Like, pretty crazy.

I can understand the lack of respect for political opponents. For example their leader is a cry baby named Boner. And they're all childish morons.

Novistador, don't be rude. He's been very nice and considerate

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;31102475] b. double what[/QUOTE] He's referring the the Massachusetts health care bill Romney signed into law

well i mean you did basically say uppity, but you didn't use the word itself...

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31102636]Sure. During his first year, he completely used his momentum to push forward an expensive bailout which ultimately ended up funding wasteful spending projects, most notably the infamous "African Genital-Washing Program". Afterwards, he spearheaded the National Healthcare plan, which forces all states to adopt the federal program. "Romney-care" differs from this, as it is a state program, not a national program, meaning non-supporters have the ability to move to a different state if they prefer a more traditional healthcare system. Obama then proceeded to renew the Patriot Act, and he involved the US in yet another war overseas which we cannot afford. Regardless of my opinion on the war, he has violated the "War Powers Act of 1973", as he has not asked Congress to declare war. According to the law, we have passed the deadline to withdraw our forces, as it grants a 30 day removal period, which expired in late June. On top of all this, I personally dislike him for his arrogance and his attitude. He lacks respect towards his political opponents, which has arguably caused a gigantic rift between the right and left. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, but that's my opinion on him. I'm sure plenty of people here will disagree with me, and that's fine.[/QUOTE] As I recall those bailouts were from bush.

He meant the stimulus.

[QUOTE=Novistador;31102690]If Obama's health care plan is wrong to apply on a Federal level, then its wrong to apply on the state level. I find that you think "Well they could always quit their jobs, sell their homes, uproot their lives and move to another state if they disagreed" to be a good argument to be hilarious.[/QUOTE] I don't, but it certainly is a lot better than having it applied on a national level.

also national healthcare plan? What obama signed into law doesn't nearly do that much.

[QUOTE=Nikota;31102695]I can understand the lack of respect for political opponents. For example their leader is a cry baby named Boner.[/QUOTE] Seriously though Boehner's name is pretty clearly pronounced BONER, yet he likes to for political reasons claim its BAYNER, and because of that everyone goes along with it. I find it funny that he can just change his name to be pronounced totally different from the way its spelled and actually get people to go with it. BTW my last name is Vulva, thats pronounced VOLVO by the way.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;31102731]He meant the stimulus.[/QUOTE] Yeah I did, thanks.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;31102701]Novistador, don't be rude. He's been very nice and considerate[/QUOTE] Thanks for the advice , O Elecbullet Constable of the Etiquette police.

also also Boba Fett can you highlight a point where obama showed arrogance?

It's just a hilarious thing when they call him Bayner. "Say the word Spoon. Say the word Phone. Now say Boehner."

[QUOTE=Lambeth;31102774]also also Boba Fett can you highlight a point where obama showed arrogance?[/QUOTE] Didn't he once say "I [i]won[/i]" to some Republicans in an arrogant way?

[QUOTE=Lambeth;31102705]He's referring the the Massachusetts health care bill Romney signed into law[/QUOTE] That doesn't address the bit where he goes "Fascist/left leaning"- That doesn't make any sense considering the it's hard to be "left leaning" and "fascist" at the same time. That does do the second part though, and it is correct. [QUOTE=Novistador;31102526]When you combine the Social-Conservatism of the right, with the Government Controls of the Left what you get is Fascism. And considering Romney did exactly what Obama was trying to do nationally with regard to healthcare, but on a state level it would seem to me that he has Fascist leanings, though probably not explicitly.[/QUOTE] But that's not fascism... a number of governments and political groups could be described as "socially conservative" while advocating intervention in the economy. As an example, Charles de Gaulle's government in France did just that, and he's not exactly what one would call a fascist. Get your political terms straight.

[QUOTE=Novistador;31102752]Seriously though Boehner's name is pretty clearly pronounced BONER, yet he likes to for political reasons claim its BAYNER, and because of that everyone goes along with it. I find it funny that he can just change his name to be pronounced totally different from the way its spelled and actually get people to go with it. BTW my last name is Vulva, thats pronounced VOLVO by the way.[/QUOTE] The "oe" letter is an English representation of the Germanic Ö, which is pronounced more similarly to "er" than it is to "oh". In this case, Bayner would sound more appropriate than Boner with that in mind.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;31102774]also also Boba Fett can you highlight a point where obama showed arrogance?[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ju6hbSyoEo[/media]

oh no the president is being slightly cheeky. that sob must be rotten to the core with conceit

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;31102836]oh no the president is being slightly cheeky. that sob must be rotten to the core with conceit[/QUOTE] I've taken offense to a great deal of his speeches.

[QUOTE=MercZ;31102797]That doesn't address the bit where he goes "Fascist/left leaning"- That doesn't make any sense considering the it's hard to be "left leaning" and "fascist" at the same time. That does do the second part though, and it is correct.[/QUOTE] Yeah I don't know where that came from

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31102878]I've taken offense to a great deal of his speeches.[/QUOTE] that could very well be your fault :ironicat: