[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42712874]Maybe it shouldn't be banned all together but make it less accessable. I doubt kids are going to start dealing tobacco like they're dealing marijuana or drugs or like they did with alcohol in the US when it was banned. The nicotine is hardly worth it.[/QUOTE]
I live in Chicago and the high tax rate has already spawned a black market for cigarettes under market value. Or, you can make the commute yourself and buy them elsewhere.
It's easy, and cheap, and now 12 year olds can buy cigarettes hooray for social engineering.
I know the black market exists like people buy cigarettes from other countries, cheaper, and smuggle them in but still.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42714148]I know the black market exists like people buy cigarettes from other countries, cheaper, and smuggle them in but still.[/QUOTE]
This is the first time I've ever seen "but still" actually be used as a point in an argument.
Very well, I concede.
[QUOTE=s0beit;42714155]This is the first time I've ever seen "but still" actually be used as a point in an argument.
Very well, I concede.[/QUOTE]
Oh sorry haha I didn't mean that as an argument more as a "You're right but I need to think about this...". You are right ofcourse, and I don't know how it is but the only time I've come into contact with black market cigarettes has been in combination with black market alcohol. Do you think people make business on cigarettes only?
[QUOTE=CubeManv2;42705666]This, This [b]THIS[/b]
I live in Yonkers, Just outside the city.
I can enlist in the military
I can buy cigs
I cannot buy alcohol
So I can sacrifice my life for this country, but can't get a drink
Now in the city
I can enlist
I cant buy cigs
I cant drink alcohol.
[b]I don't even smoke, But come on the people who come up with these laws are literally pants on head retarded[/b][/QUOTE]
CubeMan for president
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42714382]the only time I've come into contact with black market cigarettes has been in combination with black market alcohol. Do you think people make business on cigarettes only?[/QUOTE]
One specific person I have in mind sells all sorts of drugs, plus cigarettes. It supplements his income and once you're facing felony drug charges a few charges for illegal cigarette distribution is hardly some huge obstacle.
[QUOTE=Chryseus;42711781]More money doesn't exactly equal more beds and it puts greater pressure on the health system to treat the many people each year that suffer from health problems directly or indirectly attributed to smoking, I hardly need to mention the biggest cost which is to the families that have to deal with dead or seriously ill relatives.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but your money don't go there either. Listed, I'm not going to argue with that, you're completely right in what you're saying. Just don't bring this "I don't want to pay for your rotten lungs", it's bullshit, and it backfires, that's what I wanted to say.
[QUOTE=Suttles;42713798]a little alcohol every now and then isn't nearly as bad as smoking constantly as far as i know[/QUOTE]
A little smoking isn't either nearly as bad as smoking constantly, super weird comparison :v:
[QUOTE=viper shtf;42707095]Who the hell cares if people harm themselves by smoking or drinking? It's their body, they can do whatever they want with it as long as they don't hurt anyone else.[/QUOTE]
Last time I checked smoking doesn't just harm yourself.
Sure, not much if you're hanging with mates outside or something, but if you've ever been inside a heavy smokers house it's near suffocating and it's not good for anyone else in that house.
But w/e. I'm guessing this thread will just attract those who smoke so no point arguing further.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;42714089]What about a smoke every now and then?[/QUOTE]
Smoking Tobacco is really never healthy.
[QUOTE=Cone;42705602]old enough to join the army, but not to smoke. priorities[/QUOTE]
Old enough to buy a gun at walmart? check.
Old enough to buy a cigarette? nope.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42714738]A little smoking isn't either nearly as bad as smoking constantly, super weird comparison :v:[/QUOTE]
Hm, when you put it like that, sure. I could see myself having a cigar every now and then, sitting on my balcony reflecting on my life.
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