Sweden admits endemic discrimination of Roma and Swedish hotel denies breakfast to Roma Guest on the - Polidicks

Was surprisingly hard to find a swedish source on this, but found an interview with the woman from P4 Stockholm if anyone is interested [url=http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=103&artikel=5820618]Listen here[/url]

My favorite part about threads about Roma people being treated poorly is that the Swedish and English posters immedietly jump on the "where's the proof, huh?? Its just accusations!!" train. If you're going to be a racist you should do a better job of hiding it.

Hitler didn't do a good enough job, too many of them still roam the streets of cities such as Paris, Madrid, Amsterdam etc. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Either genuinely racist, trolling, or just dumb" - Megafan))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=PatrickT;44371305]Hitler didn't do a good enough job, too many of them still roam the streets of cities such as Paris, Madrid, Amsterdam etc.[/QUOTE] Who keeps letting these idiots in? That fabled chain ban is starting to look appealing

[QUOTE=ThePuska;44370843]What else do you think might be the reason for denying her entry?[/QUOTE] I haven't really been speculating but unlike others I don't need to pretend to know what happened. The hotel hasn't even made a comment yet. She's already filed a report to the Discrimination Ombudsman and there will probably be an investigation. But Swedish Media is already reporting Nymans testimony as fact and Swedish politicians are publicly condemning the hotel and by extension their staff. It's almost libel considering nothing has been proved yet. [QUOTE=milkandcooki;44371243]My favorite part about threads about Roma people being treated poorly is that the Swedish and English posters immedietly jump on the "where's the proof, huh?? Its just accusations!!" train. If you're going to be a racist you should do a better job of hiding it.[/QUOTE] Yeah, critical thinking and facts are for suckers!

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;44371243]My favorite part about threads about Roma people being treated poorly is that the Swedish and English posters immedietly jump on the "where's the proof, huh?? Its just accusations!!" train. If you're going to be a racist you should do a better job of hiding it.[/QUOTE] My favourite part are the American posters who blindly refuse to even consider that something's actually awry without any knowledge or experience of european Romanis when an entire continent of people, including folks who don't show any racist attitudes towards any other ethnicities are saying there's a problem.

[QUOTE=Virtanen;44372091]My favourite part are the American posters who refuse to even consider that something's actually awry without any knowledge or experience of european Romanis when an entire continent of people, including folks who don't show any racist attitudes towards any other ethnicities are saying there's a problem.[/QUOTE] Most Americans don't have a negative or positive view of the Roma people because the racist terms, like gypsy, are watered down over here.

[QUOTE=Swilly;44372154]Most Americans don't have a negative or positive view of the Roma people because the racist terms, like gypsy, are watered down over here.[/QUOTE] I won't be surprised if most Americans can't even distinguish who is a gypsy.

[QUOTE=Grindigo;44372251]I won't be surprised if most Americans can't even distinguish who is a gypsy.[/QUOTE] They probably can't, we don't have the kind of cultural hatred that Europe has for the Roma.

I swear that you guys have no idea of how much prejudice against them is here. It is fucking unbelievable. I just don´t see the point. And luckily it is improving but only by a cockroach margin per year. Also a good movie about Romas is Šanghaj. (Give it a watch).

[QUOTE=Swilly;44372265]They probably can't, we don't have the kind of cultural hatred that Europe has for the Roma.[/QUOTE] You sure don't have that for the Roma, but if it's an Arab you all go ape shit crazy.

[QUOTE=Radley;44370536]well to be fair I only dislike romas because my experience with them has been rather negative. I've met about 20 diffrents romas and almost all of them act like dicks, thinking they are better then you, jack gas from petrol-stations, demand special treatment and act like general assholes. The only positive is two romani brothers and their mom whom I once met which were chill and didn't press their identity on me. Same thing with other immigrants. Not everyone are bad apples. Judge a person as an individual, not as their stereotype. Of course, seeing as she only wore her traditional dress and wanted a breakfast SHE PAID FOR and then was discriminated against because of her identity is obviously wrong.[/QUOTE] Would these comments be acceptable directed at any other minority group? [quote]well to be fair I only dislike [B]blacks[/B] because my experience with them has been rather negative. I've met about 20 diffrents [B]blacks[/B] and almost all of them act like dicks, thinking they are better then you, jack gas from petrol-stations, demand special treatment and act like general assholes. The only positive is two [B]black[/B] brothers and their mom whom I once met which were chill and didn't press their identity on me. Same thing with other [B]minorities[/B]. Not everyone are bad apples. Judge a person as an individual, not as their stereotype. Of course, seeing as she only wore her [B]ghetto clothing[/B] and wanted a breakfast SHE PAID FOR and then was discriminated against because of her identity is obviously wrong.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Grindigo;44372319]You sure don't have that for the Roma, but if it's an Arab you all go ape shit crazy.[/QUOTE] If its not white, we go ape shit. If its Asian we fetishize it or laugh at what we consider ridiculous/crazy. If its Arab, flailing arms, muh ferrdums and something about terrorism. If its black, they're all something something ganster criminals who need to stop being lazy something something. Latinos are a virus on our tax system, something about paying for them, illegal immigration. Canadians are our hat. Europe doesn't go Ape-shit, but they sure as fuck don't want you there if you're not of Western European decent, they shove everything they don't want into ghettos or just out right deny it. Although, my favorite practice has to be deflecting these issues and pointing to the US. I guess people can't tell sarcasm.

"Why can't they just assimilate with Swedish culture? Also, ban them from eating breakfast with us."

[QUOTE=Zeke129;44372690]"Why can't they just assimilate with Swedish culture? Also, ban them from eating breakfast with us."[/QUOTE] Yeah because a people whose culture consists of marrying/selling their kids in their infancy, not sending their kids to school because it's "useless", destroying everything near them that can be torn apart and sold etc. can be assimilated. Hell, I remember like a few months ago there was a case here where some reporter found a family of gypsies living like savages in a forest near the city so she alerted the authorities. The municipality sent them to a social center, gave the families some rooms, clean clothes and showers where to wash themselves. 1 day later, the rooms were fucked and they shat everywhere on the floor, they still didn't shower, and then when they were thrown out they even told the reporter that if they see her again they'll kill her. Course, totally someone to be assimilated.

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;44372787]Yeah because a people whose culture consists of marrying/selling their kids in their infancy, not sending their kids to school because it's "useless", destroying everything near them that can be torn apart and sold etc. can be assimilated. Hell, I remember like a few months ago there was a case here where some reporter found a family of gypsies living like savages in a forest near the city so she alerted the authorities. The municipality sent them to a social center, gave the families some rooms, clean clothes and showers where to wash themselves. 1 day later, the rooms were fucked and they shat everywhere on the floor, they still didn't shower, and then when they were thrown out they even told the reporter that if they see her again they'll kill her. Course, totally someone to be assimilated.[/QUOTE] You're a fucking joke if you can say that gypsy culture is based on stealing with a straight post. You're the exact kind of person I'm shitting on when I made that post last page. Fucking disgusting behavior.

[QUOTE=milkandcooki;44372922]You're a fucking joke if you can say that gypsy culture is based on stealing with a straight post. You're the exact kind of person I'm shitting on when I made that post last page. Fucking disgusting behavior.[/QUOTE] Always the Americans or Canadians talking, I'd like to see if you guys would still react like this if around 10% of your population would be gypsies, and your cities would be filled with them begging and stealing. Romania has had gypsies in here since the middle ages, and even now they still can't act like civilized, modern human beings, even now they haven't adapted. Even NOW after we went through communism that forced ALL of them to take jobs in factories or the like and gave them all apartments (which most of them were trashed by them by the time the revolution came). You guys use the comparation with black racism, well America became a country much later than the European ones. You guys had blacks as slaves, it didn't take too long and the blacks quickly integrated into society and became fine, upstanding citizens. Gypsies? Even after centuries, most of them still live like in the middle ages. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Previous bans for racism/racial stereotyping - Strike three, next will be permanent" - Megafan))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Xystus234;44368612]Gypsies in Europe: [video=youtube;LygemtaJIQ8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LygemtaJIQ8[/video] Gypsies in America: [video=youtube;JFX7VExBL18]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFX7VExBL18[/video][/QUOTE] this is fucking silly we have minority groups living in projects here just as much as other places have them living in slums we have people who do the same fucking atm heists there are still dowries even shown in the second video there are people who rob and deal in drugs and everything - and it's still racist if you criticize the whole group of people based on the actions of the poorest

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;44372977]Always the Americans or Canadians talking, I'd like to see if you guys would still react like this if around 10% of your population would be gypsies, and your cities would be filled with them begging and stealing. Romania has had gypsies in here since the middle ages, and even now they still can't act like civilized, modern human beings, even now they haven't adapted. Even NOW after we went through communism that forced ALL of them to take jobs in factories or the like and gave them all apartments (which most of them were trashed by them by the time the revolution came). You guys use the comparation with black racism, well America became a country much later than the European ones. You guys had blacks as slaves, it didn't take too long and the blacks quickly integrated into society and became fine, upstanding citizens. Gypsies? Even after centuries, most of them still live like in the middle ages.[/QUOTE] So you're just a racist with no reasons then? I could just as easily say "black still live like animals!" Would that be fine too?

[QUOTE=Explosions;44373144]So you're just a racist with no reasons then? I could just as easily say "black still live like animals!" Would that be fine too?[/QUOTE] But they don't. Do black people live in tents made of garbage? Nope.

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;44373370]But they don't. Do black people live in tents made of garbage? Nope.[/QUOTE] They really wouldn't live tents if you guys didn't treat them like shit.

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;44373370]But they don't. Do black people live in tents made of garbage? Nope.[/QUOTE] no, because we have the projects which was a state based low income housing development program which is substantially more robust than pretty much any low income housing projects throughout europe. they're big enough to actually house most of the poverty stricken population in urban centers [editline]27th March 2014[/editline] american slums were destroyed by the FHA and everyone was pushed into the projects. somewhere around 1 million people currently live in FHA controlled public projects, but many of the projects were privatized and sold off in the 90s and now serve as low income apartments for the poor we got rid of the tents and such but the lifestyle is effectively the same

[QUOTE=BrickInHead;44373425]no, because we have the projects which was a state based low income housing development program which is substantially more robust than pretty much any low income housing projects throughout europe. they're big enough to actually house most of the poverty stricken population in urban centers [editline]27th March 2014[/editline] american slums were destroyed by the FHA and everyone was pushed into the projects. somewhere around 1 million people currently live in FHA controlled public projects, but many of the projects were privatized and sold off in the 90s and now serve as low income apartments for the poor we got rid of the tents and such but the lifestyle is effectively the same[/QUOTE] Communists made apartment blocks for gypsies and gave the apartments to them for free, happened in every commie country in CEE and EE, ask the Slovakians for example. Here's an example of before and after, blacks didn't do such things to their homes. Before: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5tOaROL.jpg[/IMG] After: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/GJygRhz.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/JA09Hn9.jpg[/IMG] Worse than any ghetto in America

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;44373495]Communists made apartment blocks for gypsies and gave the apartments to them for free, happened in every commie country in CEE and EE, ask the Slovakians for example. Here's an example of before and after, blacks didn't do such things to their homes. Before: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5tOaROL.jpg[/IMG] After: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/GJygRhz.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/JA09Hn9.jpg[/IMG] Worse than any ghetto in America[/QUOTE] when i look at those pics all it looks like is that those countries did a fucking terrible job providing housing isn't a cure-all solution

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;44373495]Communists made apartment blocks for gypsies and gave the apartments to them for free, happened in every commie country in CEE and EE, ask the Slovakians for example. Here's an example of before and after, blacks didn't do such things to their homes. Before: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5tOaROL.jpg[/IMG] After: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/GJygRhz.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/JA09Hn9.jpg[/IMG] Worse than any ghetto in America[/QUOTE] i decided to run some reverse-search about that image, and i found that image is from the WORST neighborhood in romania(ferentari), which has rampant prostitution, drug dealers, plus its a haven for the romanian mafia, also over half of the people living there have no access to sewage, need to steal electricity(it even resulted in a riot, when the electric company cut their electricity during winter(including the one of paying customers)), which resulted in the death of 4 children, plus the local government repeatedly treats the roma as basically second-class citizens, doing shit like closing a playground for children before elections(wtf?) are you seriously trying to pin all this on the roma? never mind the fact a fair share of the roma living there don't take part in the traveler lifestyle. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Ferentari_riot[/url] [url]http://www.ziua.ro/display.php?data=2006-11-15&id=211174[/url]

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;44372787] Hell, I remember like a few months ago there was a case here where some reporter found a family of gypsies living like savages in a forest near the city so she alerted the authorities. The municipality sent them to a social center, gave the families some rooms, clean clothes and showers where to wash themselves. 1 day later, the rooms were fucked and they shat everywhere on the floor, they still didn't shower, and then when they were thrown out they even told the reporter that if they see her again they'll kill her. Course, totally someone to be assimilated.[/QUOTE] White People™ has a history of enslaving other people, they've also conducted mass-executions. White People™ are absolutely terrible. On another note, some soldiers who just so happened to be - you guessed it - [I]white[/I], have killed completely harmless civilians for fun. Based on these facts, I think all White People™, along with every and any person within the military should be looked down upon. Don't you see how ridiculous this kind of mentality is?

Throwing trash near their homes could be a symptom of diogenes syndrome but affecting all the members of the community and not only the elderly.

Are the Roma the same as gypsies?

[QUOTE=OnDemand;44374081]Throwing trash near their homes could be a symptom of diogenes syndrome but affecting all the members of the community and not only the elderly.[/QUOTE] Trash buildup near homes is a symptom of not being provided with adequate waste management solutions. If the government isn't even providing those housing projects with proper drainage for sewage I doubt they have garbage pickup either

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;44372977]Always the Americans or Canadians talking, I'd like to see if you guys would still react like this if around 10% of your population would be gypsies, and your cities would be filled with them begging and stealing. Romania has had gypsies in here since the middle ages, and even now they still can't act like civilized, modern human beings, even now they haven't adapted. Even NOW after we went through communism that forced ALL of them to take jobs in factories or the like and gave them all apartments (which most of them were trashed by them by the time the revolution came). You guys use the comparation with black racism, well America became a country much later than the European ones. You guys had blacks as slaves, it didn't take too long and the blacks quickly integrated into society and became fine, upstanding citizens. Gypsies? Even after centuries, most of them still live like in the middle ages.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ionuttzu;38184071]They're scum. Why feel sorry about them? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Racism - strike two" - Starpluck))[/highlight][/QUOTE] You're a fuckin' two-bit racist and you should stop spewing your ignorant diarrhea-of-the-mouth over this thread.