• Charles Darwin Film unable to find American distributor, producer blames evolution
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[QUOTE=cyanide101;17286430]Once again, Religion makes everything worst. Probably rednecks in the south would be offended.[/QUOTE] Yeah, because Americans can't watch a slanderous, factless movie about why evolution is the supreme belief means religion makes everything worse.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286419]Yes, I'm being entirely serious. Give me an example of how society was worse then (except for "witch hunt" rights and lack of foreigners' rights).[/QUOTE] You murdered an entire race of people and stole their land?
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286439]I'm talking about society, not industry.[/QUOTE] ok that's cool ignore the rest of my post [QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286367]The movie openly slandered religion and harshly mocked the people who follow it. You can have arguments about creationism vs. evolution without complete disregard for the other group's beliefs. Hell, why is religion even discussed in evolution arguments? Creationism and Religion are two entirely different things.[/QUOTE] sounds like a good movie to me
[QUOTE=NoDachi;17286447]You murdered an entire race of people and stole their land?[/QUOTE] Who is "you"? If you're speaking of the Native Americans, I'm British, not American. In fact, though all nations were rather cruel to the Native Americans, it seems Great Britain and France were actually rather kind to them compared to the other nations if you look at history.
The small minority of bible-thumpers get their way because they scream the loudest. Normal sane people honestly don't care so they don't say anything. It works that way everywhere, the more you cry the more you get.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;17286447]You murdered an entire race of people and stole their land?[/QUOTE] Don't forget slave trading and such.
[QUOTE=siberpredaht;17286457]ok that's cool ignore the rest of my post[/quote] 1. Labour unions have brought about violent riots over trivial issues. 2. I said foreigners needed rights then., so don't use slaves as an example.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;17286386]1. I don't really know what is the movie about, and I didn't even say if it's right or wrong they banned it. As far as I know, Darwin never tried to prove that religion was wrong by whole, and that god does not exist (now again I am not sure, this comes just from my poor information about him), but I am afraid that the movie portraits him as a fighter against religion, trying to hang pope with his massive beard, because that's the way many movie scenarist tend to bend real historical stories to give them some sparks. If this is true, I am against this movie. [b]If the movie is really historically accurate without any additions and dramatizations, I am against it.[/b][/quote] a) You're basing you're argument off something you know nothing about. b) You contradict yourself. [quote]Just for information, I am going to technical school, and I am looking forward to studying more physics, mainly quantum and astronomical, in the future, so I am no way against scientific progress.[/QUOTE] Well if you're studying astronomical physics, then you should know why we don't know what was before the Big Bang.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff Joe;17285608]Oh for the love of... Creationists aren't being forced to see it, so why should they care?[/QUOTE] They aren't the ones objecting to it, the distributors feel it's too controversial and therefore a bad business move. [QUOTE=Monkey pie;17285637]Why does the religious people get first priority of everything.[/QUOTE] Read above. [QUOTE=Smirnoff Joe;17285656]They're so deluded, blindly yielding to their imaginary false god even if it means their death.[/QUOTE] Believing in a god does not lead to death. I have no clue what the fuck you're trying to say here. Also, that their god is imaginary is entirely your opinion. [QUOTE=Alde;17285740]That's what I don't get about Christianity. If God is perfect in every way, why did he create evil? And who created him?* *[sp]Humans.[/sp][/QUOTE] Actually Christians have an entire story of why the world is filled with chaos, pretty sure it has something to do with Adam and Eve eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge and being kicked out of Eden or something. [QUOTE=Awesomecaek;17285775]He never created evil. Evil is a lack of good. I will answer you the last question once you can tell me what was before big bang and why it happened. Now I will leave this thread because of high probability of useless flamewar incoming. Whoever has mood to argue with me, can proceed doing it using PM's.[/QUOTE] This makes no scientific sense whatsoever. There also was no before the Big Bang because time began with the Big Bang. Christians should really stop trying to scientifically prove their god, because by definition, it is impossible to prove it by such methods. Same goes for disproving it. [QUOTE=TH89;17285866]As funny as this is, the director is bullshitting. If you watch the trailer the whole movie is going like OH MISTER DARWIN THIS IS AMAZING YOUR THEORY OF EVOLUTION HAS ~DISPROVED GOD~ IF PEOPLE LEARN YOUR THEORY NOBODY WILL BELIEVE IN GOD ~EVER AGAIN~ PS RELIGION IS FOR FAGGOTS So it's probably more that than just the fact that evolution is in it. The director is pushing a very strong (and historically bs) agenda[/QUOTE] logic on facepunch waht [QUOTE=Samuelgames;17285870]Oh wow america, stop having ignorant people. Specially Ignorant publishers[/QUOTE] Stop creating movies which have minimally factual basis and are made to present a biased view of a subject. Just because you agree with it doesn't mean it's right. [QUOTE=Alde;17285994]Only I'm not asking you to answer everything. I'm asking you what made God.[/QUOTE] Again, by definition, it is impossible to scientifically disprove god. From a theological standpoint (trust me I know this I was forced into many bible camps as a kid), god exists in a completely separate realm from us, outside of time completely, meaning he always existed.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286466]Who is "you"? If you're speaking of the Native Americans, I'm British, not American. In fact, though all nations were rather cruel to the Native Americans, it seems Great Britain and France were actually rather kind to them compared to the other nations if you look at history.[/QUOTE] oh, you're british you defending child labour too? lol [QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286484]1. Labour unions have brought about violent riots over trivial issues. 2. I said foreigners needed rights then., so don't use slaves as an example.[/QUOTE] people were being taken advantage of, and that is a FACT, it is extremely ignorant if you disagree with it and you seem to forget about women and blacks not being able to vote.. and what does foreign even mean? americans were foreign to north america..
[QUOTE=CanibalMonke;17286481]Don't forget slave trading and such.[/QUOTE] We ended the slave trade in the 1820s peacefully.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286484]1. Labour unions have brought about violent riots over trivial issues. 2. I said foreigners needed rights then., so don't use slaves as an example.[/QUOTE] Sexism and homophobia
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286466]Who is "you"? If you're speaking of the Native Americans, I'm British, not American. In fact, though all nations were rather cruel to the Native Americans, it seems Great Britain and France were actually rather kind to them compared to the other nations if you look at history.[/QUOTE] That's because they were busy murdering and stealing land from Africans and East Indians.
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[QUOTE=siberpredaht;17286498]oh, you're british you defending child labour too? lol[/QUOTE] Child labour was wrong also, I forgot about that.
[QUOTE=siberpredaht;17286498]oh, you're british you defending child labour too? lol[/QUOTE] what are you? a pig
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286515]Child labour was wrong also, I forgot about that.[/QUOTE] You can't say society was better back then apart from this and this and this and this
[QUOTE=TH89;17286509]That's because they were busy murdering and stealing land from Africans and East Indians.[/QUOTE] Exploitation is not on the same level as ethnic cleansing.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286515]Child labour was wrong also, I forgot about that.[/QUOTE] And disease.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286501]We ended the slave trade in the 1820s peacefully.[/QUOTE] You still had it.
[QUOTE=TH89;17286509]That's because they were busy murdering and stealing land from Africans and East Indians.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying we were right, but every other nation was doing the same; hell, even America went over and killed innocent Africans attempting to stop the Barbary Pirates. Today they're killing innocent people in the Middle East attempting to stop imaginary terrorists.
[QUOTE=Anteep2;17286517]what are you? a pig[/QUOTE] hey :( i don't like americans either
[QUOTE=James*;17286530]You can't say society was better back then apart from this and this and this and this[/QUOTE] Overall, it was better. Society has more wrong things today than before.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286558]Overall, it was better. Society has more wrong things today than before.[/QUOTE] Why What things
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286551]I'm not saying we were right, but every other nation was also; hell, even America went over and killed innocent Africans attempting to stop the Barbary Pirates. Today they're killing innocent people in the Middle East attempting to stop imaginary terrorists.[/QUOTE] this is why america is the most disrespeckted nation in history they fuck their own citizens and if terrorists wanted to cause havoc they would drop a couple hundred dirty bombs
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286551]I'm not saying we were right, but every other nation was also; hell, even America went over and killed innocent Africans attempting to stop the Barbary Pirates. Today they're killing innocent people in the Middle East attempting to stop imaginary terrorists.[/QUOTE] We might not have to go kill imaginary terrorists if real ones didn't exist, and generally exist because they're some manner of religious extremist. Religion causes more harm than good, get over it.
[QUOTE=CanibalMonke;17286549]You still had it.[/QUOTE] Slaves were not used in Britain, since it had always been illegal. The slave trade developed through laissez faire government and legal loopholes.
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286558]Overall, it was better. Society has more wrong things today than before.[/QUOTE] yeah because socioeconomic freedom is such a bad thing and running water and toliet paper and the internet
[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;17286551]I'm not saying we were right, but every other nation was also; hell, even America went over and killed innocent Africans attempting to stop the Barbary Pirates. Today they're killing innocent people in the Middle East attempting to stop imaginary terrorists.[/QUOTE] Yes, the raping and pillaging of an entire continent is vastly preferable to civilian casualties in a war The world is going to hell in a handbasket
and universal suffrage, protectionism and the welfare state.
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