Obama administration gives $500 million to UN climate change fund - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51689609]Better than 4 or 8 years of Clinton.[/QUOTE] You would rather see the US's largest financial and population centers permanently destroyed than to have someone you don't like in control for 4 more years? [del]You Trump supporters really don't give a fuck about America, only your damn cult of personality.[/del] [QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51690305]Is Raidyr really a Trump supporter now? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense? Or are people only looking at the statement and *not* the person making it?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mingebox;51690432]Maybe they forget who he was since he changed his avatar. I know I do that sometimes.[/QUOTE] I struggle with memory problems and often forget who people are. Apologies to Raidyr.

Is Raidyr really a Trump supporter now? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense? Or are people only looking at the statement and *not* the person making it?

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51690305]Is Raidyr really a Trump supporter now? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense? Or are people only looking at the statement and *not* the person making it?[/QUOTE] Maybe they forget who he was since he changed his avatar. I know I do that sometimes.

I don't remember raidyr ever liking Clinton. More of a "anyone but trump" person

[QUOTE=KillRay;51690455]I don't remember raidyr ever liking Clinton. More of a "anyone but trump" person[/QUOTE] His posts aren't actually coming across as supporting Trump anyways. He's made it fairly clear that his "support" for Trump here is because Trump is so shitty in comparison to Clinton. Presumably, judging by the post by Zedacon he said accurately summed up his feelings, his view on the matter is that things going to shit quickly rather than more slowly as with Clinton will likely get more people up in arms and willing to do something about it.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;51690592]His posts aren't actually coming across as supporting Trump anyways. He's made it fairly clear that his "support" for Trump here is because Trump is so shitty in comparison to Clinton. Presumably, judging by the post by Zedacon he said accurately summed up his feelings, his view on the matter is that things going to shit quickly rather than more slowly as with Clinton will likely get more people up in arms and willing to do something about it.[/QUOTE] Makes sense. I didn't really read Zedacons post my first glance over the thread, but I'm in agreement. The frog placed in boiling water jumps out quickly, while the frog in the warming-up water sits and dies.

Leave it to Barack to throw around taxpayer money wherever he feels like! I can't fucking believe this. If this is a donation, why wasn't it drawn out of the presidential salary instead of public funds?

[QUOTE=Chonch;51690695]Leave it to Barack to throw around taxpayer money wherever he feels like! I can't fucking believe this. If this is a donation, why wasn't it drawn out of the presidential salary instead of public funds?[/QUOTE] Cut him a little slack dude

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51689936]I don't think there is any evidence that a Hillary Clinton presidency would be worse considering she's not going to be president?[/QUOTE] Just like there's no evidence that Trump is going to be a bad president lmao nice 1 mate cheers [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitpost" - Novangel))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Chonch;51690695]Leave it to Barack to throw around taxpayer money wherever he feels like! I can't fucking believe this. If this is a donation, why wasn't it drawn out of the presidential salary instead of public funds?[/QUOTE] sea walls are worth a lot more than boarder walls.

[QUOTE=kikomia;51690748]Just like there's no evidence that Trump is going to be a bad president lmao nice 1 mate cheers[/QUOTE] Other than his actions as president I guess

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51690731]Cut him a little slack dude[/QUOTE] He's a rabid Trump supporter. There's no slack to be found for the likes of Obama no matter the action. [QUOTE=kikomia;51690748]Just like there's no evidence that Trump is going to be a bad president lmao nice 1 mate cheers[/QUOTE] He calls global warming a hoax and is actively trying to interfere with attempts to counteract it by appointing like-minded people to positions of power. That alone makes him a bad president regardless of anything else.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51690695]Leave it to Barack to throw around taxpayer money wherever he feels like! I can't fucking believe this. If this is a donation, why wasn't it drawn out of the presidential salary instead of public funds?[/QUOTE] If 500m helps contribute towards a future in which your children or grandchildren don't suffer because of a bunch of shithead babyboomers plugging their ears until they croak then you should be grateful.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51690695]Leave it to Barack to throw around taxpayer money wherever he feels like! I can't fucking believe this. If this is a donation, why wasn't it drawn out of the presidential salary instead of public funds?[/QUOTE] Yeah I'd much rather the president spend taxpayer money on something useful like a giant brick wall.

[QUOTE=kikomia;51690748]Just like there's no evidence that Trump is going to be a bad president lmao nice 1 mate cheers[/QUOTE] Of course there's evidence. Trump has said and done some crazy things! Hillary has too, but that's not evidence of course.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51690695]Leave it to Barack to throw around taxpayer money wherever he feels like! I can't fucking believe this. If this is a donation, why wasn't it drawn out of the presidential salary instead of public funds?[/QUOTE] From the OP this was a planned investment. Our government should be investing in programs that mitigate climate change here and abroad, unless you don't give a shit about farmers, fishermen, silviculturists etc. The same can be said about things like refugee crises, because letting things continue as they are now is only going to cause [I]more[/I] of them, probably in South and Central America to start.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51690796]Other than his actions as president I guess[/QUOTE] Didn't know you had a time machine.

[QUOTE=Robman8908;51690850]Didn't know you had a time machine.[/QUOTE] My point is that Trump will be President and Clinton will not, thus it is impossible to judge how bad or good Clinton's presidency would have been. I'm impressed how optimistic some people are but trump's not gonna bring butterflies and unicorns to all.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51690695]Leave it to Barack to throw around taxpayer money wherever he feels like! I can't fucking believe this. If this is a donation, why wasn't it drawn out of the presidential salary instead of public funds?[/QUOTE] It's okay, Trump is already making sure that money is a total, and utter waste So sure, it's all Obama's fault, but not really.

[QUOTE=kikomia;51690748]Just like there's no evidence that Trump is going to be a bad president lmao nice 1 mate cheers[/QUOTE] Are you living under a rock? If so, please tell me where it is. It sounds nice.

[QUOTE=kikomia;51688857]Haha, cause Trump is president now and that's a "bad thing", right?[/QUOTE] When it comes to climate change? Absolutely. No doubt about it. Trump will be catastrophic. Climate change the biggest threat facing the human race, and his administration's official policy isn't only to deny that it even exists, but to actively attack climate research agencies, environmental protection policies, and "politically correct environmental science." So, yeah. Bad thing.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51690695]Leave it to Barack to throw around taxpayer money wherever he feels like! I can't fucking believe this. If this is a donation, why wasn't it drawn out of the presidential salary instead of public funds?[/QUOTE] Can't wait for trump to start spending on things like grandiose military parades and 2000 mile long walls, which are definitely not a waste of mah taxpayer dollars.

[QUOTE=Robman8908;51690850]Didn't know you had a time machine.[/QUOTE] Trumps transitional actions have been pretty indicative of the direction hes taking as President and the policies he's going to be pushing. You don't need a time machine to see that.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51691013]Trumps transitional actions have been pretty indicative of the direction hes taking as President and the policies he's going to be pushing. You don't need a time machine to see that.[/QUOTE] Every president talks big up until taking office, then they ride the wave until the very last bit. [editline]18th January 2017[/editline] I'm worried, too... just not about Trump. He's all bark.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51690695]Leave it to Barack to throw around taxpayer money wherever he feels like! I can't fucking believe this. If this is a donation, why wasn't it drawn out of the presidential salary instead of public funds?[/QUOTE] He's got to do everything he can to make up for the incoming president's climate change denial.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51690731]Cut him a little slack dude[/QUOTE] What for? [URL="http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/obama-3b-un-climate-fund-smart-investment-us-make"]Congress did not authorize any bit of the $1bn that's now been contributed.[/URL] This might very well be illegal. I'll cut Obama some slack when he cuts a refund check to the Treasury. [QUOTE=Alice3173;51690827]He's a rabid Trump supporter. There's no slack to be found for the likes of Obama no matter the action.[/QUOTE] I was a rabid Obama supporter too, once. I canvassed for him in '08 and voted for him in '09. My political affiliation has nothing to do with this--Obama is my president, and I have the right to complain about every little thing he does. [QUOTE=RetaDepa;51690838]If 500m helps contribute towards a future in which your children or grandchildren don't suffer because of a bunch of shithead babyboomers plugging their ears until they croak then you should be grateful.[/QUOTE] That's not my problem here. I have zero issues with the GCF ([URL="http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/days-after-500000-us-contribution-un-green-climate-fund-increases"]even though we pay nearly thirty percent of their budget![/URL]), but don't you think three billion dollars could see some better use right here? What about cutting our own emissions, or [I]funding more research to prove man-made climate change exists,[/I] and is something we can affect? Maybe we should actually consult the representative government, who constitutionally is supposed to hold the purse strings? [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51690869]It's okay, Trump is already making sure that money is a total, and utter waste So sure, it's all Obama's fault, but not really.[/QUOTE] It's Obama's administration, are you telling me this wasn't his responsibility?

[QUOTE=Chonch;51691110]What for? [URL="http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/obama-3b-un-climate-fund-smart-investment-us-make"]Congress did not authorize any bit of the $1bn that's now been contributed.[/URL] This might very well be illegal. I'll cut Obama some slack when he cuts a refund check to the Treasury. I was a rabid Obama supporter too, once. I canvassed for him in '08 and voted for him in '09. My political affiliation has nothing to do with this--Obama is my president, and I have the right to complain about every little thing he does. That's not my problem here. I have zero issues with the GCF ([URL="http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/days-after-500000-us-contribution-un-green-climate-fund-increases"]even though we pay nearly thirty percent of their budget![/URL]), but don't you think three billion dollars could see some better use right here? What about cutting our own emissions, or [I]funding more research to prove man-made climate change exists,[/I] and is something we can affect? Maybe we should actually consult the representative government, who constitutionally is supposed to hold the purse strings? It's Obama's administration, are you telling me this wasn't his responsibility?[/QUOTE] He's only doing this as a response to the fact that the next person to take office is going to act like global warming is a hoax, coal is clean, and that's nothing to shake your head at. If Trump wasn't so clearly bought and sold on fucking lies on this issue, it wouldn't be something Obama would feel necessary to do. It's absolutely his responsibility, but it's absolutely because of Trump, and the genuine terror many of us have from the acknowledgement that "Climate change" won't be dealt with by the US for a decade or so, way too late. I know, to people like yourself, other deniers or mild "It won't be that bad" type positions you don't see the validity in that. It's there. It's real. It's scary.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51691110]That's not my problem here. I have zero issues with the GCF ([URL="http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/days-after-500000-us-contribution-un-green-climate-fund-increases"]even though we pay nearly thirty percent of their budget![/URL]), but don't you think three billion dollars could see some better use right here? What about cutting our own emissions, or [I]funding more research to prove man-made climate change exists,[/I] and is something we can affect? Maybe we should actually consult the representative government, who constitutionally is supposed to hold the purse strings?[/QUOTE] Wow, are you saying that the US - the only super power in the world - is contributing a fairly large percentage? Also, the remaining 70% aren't covered by the remaining countries on Earth, but only 40 - so the US probably isn't paying outrageously much calculated per GDP. And how about you fund both, if it makes sense? The process, sure, I don't know how kosher that is.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51691110]What about [I]funding more research to prove man-made climate change exists,[/I] and is something we can affect?[/QUOTE] Not surprising the person to get mad at this is a climate change skeptic.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51691149]He's only doing this as a response to the fact that the next person to take office is going to act like global warming is a hoax, coal is clean, and that's nothing to shake your head at. If Trump wasn't so clearly bought and sold on fucking lies on this issue, it wouldn't be something Obama would feel necessary to do. It's absolutely his responsibility, but it's absolutely because of Trump, and the genuine terror many of us have from the acknowledgement that "Climate change" won't be dealt with by the US for a decade or so, way too late. I know, to people like yourself, other deniers or mild "It won't be that bad" type positions you don't see the validity in that. It's there. It's real. It's scary.[/QUOTE] Source says this was a planned investment and had nothing to do with Trump. That said, climate change and Trump isn't even my problem, it's that Obama has once again entirely bypassed Congress to spend public funds. That is wrong, and it emboldens future administrators to do the same. [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51691187]Not surprising the person to get mad at this is a climate change skeptic.[/QUOTE] I am not a skeptic and you are intentionally missing the point. I believe climate change is real. Do I think it's caused or can be fixed by humanity? Not as much. I'm sure you understand that there are people far less accepting than I am, though. Our best tool to reach out to these people is scientific data, and what I am saying is that this money would have been better used as part of a Congressional program to fund such research.