I don't get it though. If I'm allowed to sue a bring a lawsuit against any of the states and even the federal government itself, why the FUCK am I not allowed to sue a company?
[QUOTE=oldeskoolfan;32498439]I don't get it though. If I'm allowed to sue a bring a lawsuit against any of the states and even the federal government itself, why the FUCK am I not allowed to sue a company?[/QUOTE]
When you sign a contract or an agreement before being offered some kind of service, or anything like that, more often than not you're also signing a limited liability thing, protecting them from lawsuit or liability under certain circumstances. This isn't new.
[QUOTE=Tigster;32498506]When you sign a contract or an agreement before being offered some kind of service, or anything like that, more often than not you're also signing a limited liability thing, protecting them from lawsuit or liability under certain circumstances. This isn't new.[/QUOTE]
Just because it isn't new doesn't mean it isn't wrong. If I'm signing a contract for their services, they also benefit from my services, and therefore should be held just as accountable as I am. I provide them money, they provide the game. I reserve every single right they have, they reserve every single right I have.
[QUOTE=oldeskoolfan;32498439]I don't get it though. If I'm allowed to sue a bring a lawsuit against any of the states and even the federal government itself, why the FUCK am I not allowed to sue a company?[/QUOTE]
Because they want you to agree not to sue so that they can't be held liable for shit like the PSN Network Security Breach, where they obviously should've done more to protect the information of their customers.
It's rather stupid to be honest, if someone's suing you for something that's wrong they'd win anyway so they're covering their asses for what they do wrong.
[QUOTE=oldeskoolfan;32498715]Just because it isn't new doesn't mean it isn't wrong. If I'm signing a contract for their services, they also benefit from my services, and therefore should be held just as accountable as I am. I provide them money, they provide the game. I reserve every single right they have, they reserve every single right I have.[/QUOTE]
So they shouldn't take steps to reduce liability? Also if you don't agree with the fine print, don't agree, don't sign. It's not illegal.
if you haven't figured it out by now, they can put this in their EULA if they want but it's not gonna meant shit in court
it's the same thing like when you see a sign at a carnival saying "we're not liable for any injuries blah blah", you can still sue if you get injured in their carnival
[QUOTE=Jsm;32497328]Lets talk entirely hypothetically and not at all reference any real events.[/quote]
Why not? But yeah not a rare phenomenon the hypothetical talky on Facepunch.
[QUOTE=Jsm;32497328]Say a company (such as EA) holds my credit card details and they are hacked due to their complete lack of network security and my credit card details end up on the internet. Are you saying that I should not sue them?[/QUOTE]
You expect them to pay back of course, and if they don't you probably sign a suit, or a class action?
Since when are ToS agreements and EULA's legally binding?
They're not contracts. They're meaningless walls of text meant to discourage you from seeking legal action when you're wronged. There's no way for a company to strip away your rights like this.
There's a reason noone ever reads that crap.
This shit really pisses me off but what's more annoying is when you buy a game or something, and for once you actually do read the TOS and agree.
Then you go and you get hit with this shit again and it's like, "yeah we updated the agreement, if you don't want to sell your soul then that's cool you don't have to play, we already got your money".
the crazy part is that the clause is not limited to legal action related to the actual product that includes the terms you're agreeing to. it seems to be a "contract signed in blood" whereby agreeing to these terms once waives your right to go to court with EA at any time ever for any reason forever
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