• Mad Max: Fury Road sequel named "Mad Max: The Wasteland"
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this is really welcome news, movie is probably one of the best I've ever seen [QUOTE=Meringdal;47752227]I really enjoyed the cinematography of the new Mad Max movie, [B]only the forced feminist plot points were annoying.[/B][/QUOTE] :downs:
[QUOTE=OutspokenGolf;47752256]i really enjoyed the movie. that little ghetto amtank the bullet farmer used was awesome. that and the doof warrior.[/QUOTE] I like to call that vehicle the "General M3 Lee"
[QUOTE=Meringdal;47752227]I really enjoyed the cinematography of the new Mad Max movie, only the forced feminist plot points were annoying.[/QUOTE] You people are pathetic [QUOTE=sloppy_joes;47751502]Yeah but he wasn't really that likable. I think they tried to make him mysterious but they just made him look really stupid. He barely talked, he was just kind of [I]there[/I] the whole movie. *takes out map* *points to spot on map* "we go... me name max... zug zug" If that's true then I don't know[/QUOTE] George Miller said in an interview that max is practically a feral animal at the beginning of the movie, it's not until he meets Furiosa and starts cooperating with her that he starts gaining back his humanity, that's why he grunts a lot and doesn't really seem "there". Or something like that, the interview is on YouTube I'd link it but I'm on my phone
[QUOTE=Meringdal;47752227]I really enjoyed the cinematography of the new Mad Max movie, only the forced feminist plot points were annoying. I would absolutely watch the sequel tho :)[/QUOTE] what the fuck is this I watch movies specifically to ESCAPE the women I don't understand and now they're in my movie???????? curse u tumblr
[QUOTE=jonu67;47751477]Max isn't the important character in these movies, he's just our access into this universe.[/QUOTE] This is absolute nonsense, where are people getting this idea? Max is the focal point of the original trilogy. He's not some bystander, he is the single central mover to the plot. He's the guy that keeps Goose from killing the captured biker. He's the one that gets his bloody revenge on the gang. He takes the gyrocopter pilot hostage, finds the wastelanders, and brings them the truck. He drives the truck for the wastelanders to distract Humongous' gang. He goes to Bartertown, he fights in the Thunderdome, he finds the feral children, he leads them to a new home. The plot of all three movies essentially revolves around him. You could maybe make the case that the first movie downplays his role a bit because there are a bunch of secondary characters that get similar screentime until the last half hour or so, but The Road Warrior and Beyond Thunderdome are 100%, absolutely, unequivocally about Max. For what it's worth I fucking [I]loved[/I] Fury Road and am seriously tempted to go see it in theaters again, but before this movie came out nobody seriously said that Max wasn't the important character in the trilogy, that's some sort of revisionist nonsense. Miller tried something new with this movie by making Max co-star with Furiosa, and really played up Max's 'silent loner' personality, and it [i]worked[/i]. There's no need to pretend the earlier movies were the same to justify it.
[QUOTE=Killer900;47752594]You people are pathetic George Miller said in an interview that max is practically a feral animal at the beginning of the movie, it's not until he meets Furiosa and starts cooperating with her that he starts gaining back his humanity, that's why he grunts a lot and doesn't really seem "there". Or something like that, the interview is on YouTube I'd link it but I'm on my phone[/QUOTE] They literally call him a feral for half the movie.
Looking at wikipedia, it still hasn't made as much as the budget. Does anyone have any accurate numbers on the profit they're making?
[QUOTE=Meringdal;47752227]I really enjoyed the cinematography of the new Mad Max movie, only the forced feminist plot points were annoying. I would absolutely watch the sequel tho :)[/QUOTE] I came to watch a big manly movie about a big man riding bigger cars and watching big explosions wtf are all these women doing here >:(
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;47752847]I came to watch a big manly movie about a big man riding bigger cars and watching big explosions wtf are all these women doing here >:([/QUOTE] Not like they weren't easy on the eyes, either :v:
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;47751502]Yeah but he wasn't really that likable. I think they tried to make him mysterious but they just made him look really stupid. He barely talked, he was just kind of [I]there[/I] the whole movie. *takes out map* *points to spot on map* "we go... me name max... zug zug" [/QUOTE] [img]http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2013/188/7/0/the_man_with_no_name_by_fddt-d6chdwf.jpg[/img]
One thing I really liked was that Immortan Joe's "mothers" did more than just sit around and look pretty, and as the movie progressed they actually started doing stuff like loading guns, helping with repears, etc. Not trying to start an equality debate or anything but it was cool to see [I]everyone[/I] trying to survive.
Facepunch likes a good movie for once? I am shocked :0
[QUOTE=Meringdal;47752227]I really enjoyed the cinematography of the new Mad Max movie, only the forced feminist plot points were annoying. I would absolutely watch the sequel tho :)[/QUOTE] Yeah, I mean, woman drivers?? What's next???
[QUOTE=Alrækinn;47752356]Okay before I go further I'm gonna level with you, I [i]kind[/i] of know where you're coming from. I saw someone talking about the plot synopsis of the movie, made it sound like Immortan Joe was trying to rebuild society and they just didn't want to cooperate. That's not the case at all, there aren't any forced feminist plot points, the women were running away from Immortan because they were basically his concubines and they were sick of that life. Also Furiosa being on level grounds and getting treated action wise pretty much the same as a male action hero was the tightest shit and you're wrong if you think otherwise.[/QUOTE] The men in the film sacrificed themselves so that the nurturing and caring, but strong and independent women with no character flaws and sad backgrounds could save the oppressed people of the desert city. The men in the film were mostly depicted as suicidal zealots who only cared about their own survival or glory, while the women were the ones with culture and history. I really enjoyed the movie, but seriously, it was some forced feminism in there, and I personally didnt like it. anyone else can have their own opinion
[QUOTE=Meringdal;47753284]The men in the film sacrificed themselves so that the nurturing and caring, but strong and independent women with no character flaws and sad backgrounds could save the oppressed people of the desert city. The men in the film were mostly depicted as suicidal zealots who only cared about their own survival or glory, while the women were the ones with culture and history. I really enjoyed the movie, but seriously, it was some forced feminism in there, and I personally didnt like it. anyone else can have their own opinion[/QUOTE] Have you really signed up just to post this shit?
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;47753294]Have you really signed up just to post this shit?[/QUOTE] I signed up to read the news threads, sometimes I post. not often. I like analyzing movies, one of my hobbies.
Saw the movie, went in without seeing the Trilogy but personally I think Max had a fair amount of screen time compared to what other people say. He helped out a lot and so did the rest of the team, sorta. But I honestly think Nux is my favorite character. I'm not sure how did they manage to pull off an average mook to become a likeable character but they succeeded. Dat guitar player too.
[QUOTE=Meringdal;47753284]The men in the film sacrificed themselves so that the nurturing and caring, but strong and independent women with no character flaws and sad backgrounds could save the oppressed people of the desert city. The men in the film were mostly depicted as suicidal zealots who only cared about their own survival or glory, while the women were the ones with culture and history. I really enjoyed the movie, but seriously, it was some forced feminism in there, and I personally didnt like it. anyone else can have their own opinion[/QUOTE] The women were in no way "stronger" than the men. They were just as strong as sheltered concubines would be, which isn't very. No one is more or less competent than they should be given their experience. Furiosa was strong because she spent her entire life fighting for survival, like Max. And even then Max is shown to be far superior to her in most combat situations.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;47753374]The women were in no way "stronger" than the men. They were just as strong as sheltered concubines would be, which isn't very. No one is more or less competent than they should be given their experience. Furiosa was strong because she spent her entire life fighting for survival, like Max. And even then Max is shown to be far superior to her in most combat situations.[/QUOTE] are we talking about how good they were at fighting or how "good" their characters are? Max had a nice change of heart as a dynamic character, while Furiosa was the good character all along.
It's really telling when writing actually decent female characters is considered feminist propaganda and not just, you know, normal
[QUOTE=Meringdal;47753388]are we talking about how good they were at fighting or how "good" their characters are? Max had a nice change of heart as a dynamic character, while Furiosa was the good character all along.[/QUOTE] So? Of course Max didn't care about the concubines or Furiosa to start with. He didn't know them. For all he knew, they'd kill him the first chance they got. He did what he had to survive. I imagine if Furiosa were in his shoe's she'd do the same. Good and bad are almost pointless terms in a world as morally grey as Mad Max. Everyone did terrible things, and everyone thought they were doing what was right. Personally I identify more with Furiosa than Immorton Joe, but that doesn't mean that she's "the good one".
[QUOTE=Meringdal;47753284]The men in the film sacrificed themselves so that the nurturing and caring, but strong and independent women with no character flaws and sad backgrounds could save the oppressed people of the desert city. The men in the film were mostly depicted as suicidal zealots who only cared about their own survival or glory, while the women were the ones with culture and history. I really enjoyed the movie, but seriously, it was some forced feminism in there, and I personally didnt like it. anyone else can have their own opinion[/QUOTE] By your logic most films in existence must be meninist
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;47753413]It's really telling when writing actually decent female characters is considered feminist propaganda and not just normal[/QUOTE] when a group of old ladies are making a huge difference in a post apocalyptic warzone, that is when i start questioning how well constructed it all is. "I never miss a headshot" one of them said, but in the movie she couldnt hit with a shotgun at point blank range.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;47753413]It's really telling when writing actually decent female characters is considered feminist propaganda and not just, you know, normal[/QUOTE] tbh if this didn't start off with an MRA complaining about feminist propaganda I could see people calling the movie misogynistic it's at least on par in terms of rape and violence towards women with witcher
[QUOTE=Meringdal;47753459]when a group of old ladies are making a huge difference in a post apocalyptic warzone, that is when i start questioning how well constructed it all is. "I never miss a headshot" one of them said, but in the movie she couldnt hit with a shotgun at point blank range.[/QUOTE] You're taking a world that's meant to be insane and over the top way too seriously. This is a movie that had a blind guy playing metal riffs on a custom amp truck in a moving battlezone but you somehow take issue with hardened old ladies with guns
[QUOTE=Meringdal;47753284]The men in the film sacrificed themselves so that the nurturing and caring, but strong and independent women with no character flaws and sad backgrounds could save the oppressed people of the desert city. The men in the film were mostly depicted as suicidal zealots who only cared about their own survival or glory, while the women were the ones with culture and history. I really enjoyed the movie, but seriously, it was some forced feminism in there, and I personally didnt like it. anyone else can have their own opinion[/QUOTE] Big Spoilers but [sp]Story is about saving beauties, fat woman get left behind to be milked like cows (literally) Max beat 6 "strong womyn" while chained to half dead guy and a door He proceeds to steal their truck Pregnant woman gets ran over by a car She gets a cesarean right after, people gave shit if she was going to survive, baby is stillborn (and perfect in every way) Then Max proceeds to keep saving everyone throughout the entire movie A woman is being used as bait, naked in a pedestal The only remaining woman are 6 old ladies who proceed to die one by one on rather quick ways on the following combat Max takes out not one, but two warbosses single handled Everyone is saved by a white bald guy Max saves Furiosa in the end with road warrior medicine Furiosa has a break down and almost leads everyone to death which is stopped by Max [/sp] I think it's pretty equal
[QUOTE=Meringdal;47753459]when a group of old ladies are making a huge difference in a post apocalyptic warzone, that is when i start questioning how well constructed it all is. "I never miss a headshot" one of them said, but in the movie she couldnt hit with a shotgun at point blank range.[/QUOTE] [sp]they were a group of people who'd been practicing their marksmanship for at least 30 years, why is it a surprise that they were good shots when it came to hand to hand combat they got their granny asses handed to them. Or did you miss the part where one of them got lobotomized by a circular saw?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;47753440]So? Of course Max didn't care about the concubines or Furiosa to start with. He didn't know them. For all he knew, they'd kill him the first chance they got. He did what he had to survive. I imagine if Furiosa were in his shoe's she'd do the same. Good and bad are almost pointless terms in a world as morally grey as Mad Max. Everyone did terrible things, and everyone thought they were doing what was right. Personally I identify more with Furiosa than Immorton Joe, but that doesn't mean that she's "the good one".[/QUOTE] I think of Max as a better constructed character, since he is dynamic and in the "grey" area, as you said. I hate black/white character writing, which is my problem with this whole debate about the female characters.. they dont really seem to have any dark in them, only Furiosa, which had a strong will to survive and do the necessary, but only when forced to, because making a female character with more problems than marginally required for a sad/strong character, would be too hard.. right? [editline]19th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=MisterMooth;47753472]You're taking a world that's meant to be insane and over the top way too seriously. This is a movie that had a blind guy playing metal riffs on a custom amp truck in a moving battlezone but you somehow take issue with hardened old ladies with guns[/QUOTE] if you read my comments you would see that I enjoyed the movie, but I have some problems with the female characters and how they interact with the message of the movie. these are not big concerns, but they are interesting to debate, dont you think?
[QUOTE=Meringdal;47753494]I think of Max as a better constructed character, since he is dynamic and in the "grey" area, as you said. I hate black/white character writing, which is my problem with this whole debate about the female characters.. they dont really seem to have any dark in them, only Furiosa, which had a strong will to survive and do the necessary, but only when forced to, because making a female character with more problems than marginally required for a sad/strong character, would be too hard.. right? [editline]19th May 2015[/editline] if you read my comments you would see that I enjoyed the movie, but I have some problems with the female characters and how they interact with the message of the movie. these are not big concerns, but they are interesting to debate, dont you think?[/QUOTE] They were naive. They'd been kept in a birdcage by Immorton Joe their whole lives, they never had a chance to be scarred by the horrors of the wasteland. Of course a girl who's never so much as seen blood in her life isn't going to be capable of ripping out someone's throat the way a scarred veteran of war would be.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;47753548]They were naive. They'd been kept in a birdcage by Immorton Joe their whole lives, they never had a chance to be scarred by the horrors of the wasteland. Of course a girl who's never so much as seen blood in her life isn't going to be capable of ripping out someone's throat the same way a scarred veteran of war would be.[/QUOTE] I dont think you are following. this has little to do with their abilities to fight anyone, but has more to do with how they develop as characters, and their contribution to the story. I found most of the female characters forced, and boring.
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