Apple bans Blu-ray from Macs: Discs are 'holding us back' - Polidicks

[QUOTE=nikomo;38246517]We have, it's just that US+UK+Australia haven't. I haven't bought a single movie or song in physical form in 6 years. I've bought a couple of games, but I've just activated the CD-key and thrown the case it into a random corner of the room. I've installed operating systems from USB devices for like the past 5-6 years too. What other tasks can discs really do? Nothing really.[/QUOTE] This has everything to do with the individual. There will always be people who prefer to have physical copies. Collectors and consumers alike. Your lack of need for discs does not at all reflect on the population in general. They are still ideal for collectors, people who want physical copies, and people who want HD movies but don't have internet that allows downloading it. (Either it's not fast enough or it has a data limit, something very prevalent outside the US) [editline]30th October 2012[/editline] Not to mention it's nice not to have to rely on the internet. A blu-ray drive in my PC was the single best investment I ever made.

In terms of movies I don't want anything to replace discs. I like physically owning the movie and putting them on my shelves.

it's a good idea but the idea is a bit too early to be executed yet. when there's better internet worldwide, then this will be ok.

"And now introducing: iDiscs!"

[QUOTE='[EG] Pepper;38236938']Yeah, but isn't it a bit early to ditch optical drives? Downloading a 25GB odd movie is impractical for some people, whether it is connection speed or bandwidth caps.[/QUOTE] IE. the entire country of Australia

[QUOTE=hamar;38246488]Windows 8 doesn't read dvd's either, so how the fk do I install windows 9 from a dvd then?[/QUOTE] As much as I hate playing the devils advocate, but Windows 8 does read DVD's, it just doesn't have any DVD video playback program shipped with it, just download VLC or something and you're good to go.

It seems like Apple is just doing this to force more people to use iTunes to buy stuff like music and movies instead of stores that sell them on CD/DVD.

[QUOTE=SCopE5000;38237282]Use Netflix.[/QUOTE] you do realize netflix is only available in a few countries

[QUOTE=oldeskoolfan;38236953]If we're going to ditch the need for a disk drive, can we at least increase the amount of storage available in Mac then? I've only got a measly 250 gb drive, 30 of which was taken up by the OS and included software. I can't depend on only 220 gb with all of the new high demand software and video files coming out.[/QUOTE] Jesus, 30GB from the OS and included software? What was that commercial Mac made talking about how they didn't come with bloatware?

I'm sick of companies like Apple locking down and blocking up their systems because they don't think something is a good idea. Let the consumers decide for once you morons.

[QUOTE=Kljunas;38237224]But a blu-ray can be like 50 GB, it's often easier to buy it on disc than having to download it. On the other hand it's useless to watch an ultra high quality movie on a laptop. But if your mac is your only computer that's stupid because you won't even be able to rip a fucking CD.[/QUOTE] "But-but-but why rip CDs when you can BUY from iTunes?!"

Apple's being a fucking moron again. I have tons of movies that I've bought on disc. At least they still have the refurb ones that have disc drives.

You people will be surprised when you find out that people still use Floppy disks.

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;38248397]You people will be surprised when you find out that people still use Floppy disks.[/QUOTE] Some motherboards require you to use a floppy disk to flash the BIOS. [editline]30th October 2012[/editline] Thankfully there are workarounds like that hp usb disk tool that lets you boot DOS from a flash drive.

[QUOTE=Van-man;38246568]And until they do, don't expect it to happen. [editline]30th October 2012[/editline] optical disks and also degrade, and scratch the label side and they're useless[/QUOTE] Actually optical discs are frequently preferred for long term storage because once they have been placed in a case, prevented from moving around, and are in the dark to protect against UV, they are very resilient. They aren't damaged by heavy magnetic fields, and short exposure to extreme heat they aren't damaged by temperature changes, flooding, or physical shocks. In short, optical media is extremely durable with a few caveats that are generally very easy to circumvent or work around.

woah what's this [url]http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD564ZM/A/apple-usb-superdrive?fnode=59[/url] options??? preposterous [editline]30th October 2012[/editline] whoops guess i missed the last two pages

I love how everyone knows the titles are supposed to be sensationalist, but then they go ahead and 1. Don't actually read the article, and 2. Take it completely seriously and then post accordingly.

Its interesting how apple says that disk drives are holding them back, yet my desktop has PS/2 ports on the back still. I may not use my disk drive often, but I still do. What I don't do is use any accessory that still uses PS/2.

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;38248397]You people will be surprised when you find out that people still use Floppy disks.[/QUOTE] I think TV stations still use betamax. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[QUOTE=TheJoker;38250588]I think TV stations still use betamax. Correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE] Only for older programmes. Those with state-of-the-art equipment have it all digitalized and on a couple of redundant file servers

what, are they ditching bluray and waiting for holographic disks or something?

[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;38246538]The last time I honestly touched optical media was to install Windows 7, but since then I have been installing through USB Drives in additional computers, I took out the DVD Reader from my tablet I've built to save space for the touchscreen components and I don't miss it[/QUOTE] what's with all these comments in this thread? Blu Ray is not some DVD here. 25-50GB discs vs 9GB discs, we can't replace Blu Rays yet

[quote]Apple will never let you watch Blu-ray movies on your Mac, because discs are "holding us back". Apple has revealed the reasons the new MacBook Pro with retina display and the new super-slim iMac ditch disc drives altogether, and it's bad news for Blu-ray. Apple marketing mouthpiece Phil Schiller told Time Blu-ray comes with "issues unrelated to the actual quality of the movie that make a complex and not-great technology". Apple's not-like of Blu-ray is just one of the reasons why the very latest Apple computers ditch discs completely: Schiller says rotating discs "have inherent issues -- they're mechanical and sometimes break, they use power and are large. We can create products that are smaller, lighter and consume less power. "These old technologies are holding us back," he adds. "They're anchors on where we want to go." [/quote] Apple to English Translation: "Blu-ray is not selling us their drives at the price we want, so we're going to do away with them all together. Take that! Now we need to formulate a lie about how we will get more sales from iTunes to justify our crude business practices."

I'd agree with apple if not for startup discs and how I'd have to drive 400KM or buy an external drive to reinstall OSX if I bricked my laptop here. If they sold OSX as a flash drive it'd be different. Also the last time I used my disc drive was 2 months ago when I made a disc for someone, the time before that was in 2011 and before that was installing starcraft 2 when it came out; this drive's not that useful for everyday use otherwise.

[QUOTE=01271;38255046]I'd agree with apple if not for startup discs and how I'd have to drive 400KM or buy an external drive to reinstall OSX if I bricked my laptop here. If they sold OSX as a flash drive it'd be different. Also the last time I used my disc drive was 2 months ago when I made a disc for someone, the time before that was in 2011 and before that was installing starcraft 2 when it came out; this drive's not that useful for everyday use otherwise.[/QUOTE] Last I checked you can buy OS X on a thumb drive at the Apples Stores. Even if they discontinued that you can still download it and put it on a thumb driver yourself.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;38254878]what's with all these comments in this thread? Blu Ray is not some DVD here. 25-50GB discs vs 9GB discs, we can't replace Blu Rays yet[/QUOTE] Exactly, which is why you buy an external Blu-ray drive. I mean, its a bit of a dick move, but its not the end of the world. The only time I ever use my Blu-ray drive is when I copy the movie to the computer. That's about it. Maybe make a boot disc for a legacy PC that can't boot off USB media.

Huh. I'm ripping CD's into FLAC constantly. I always need at least two drives per computer to be happy.

[QUOTE=Call Me Kiwi;38250550]Its interesting how apple says that disk drives are holding them back, yet my desktop has PS/2 ports on the back still. I may not use my disk drive often, but I still do. What I don't do is use any accessory that still uses PS/2.[/QUOTE] Mechanical keyboards are 'better' on PS2.

I think Microsoft has a similar stance, at least they provided similar arguments against blu-ray in the past (Although MS still provide support for it, because OEMs want it). As nice as blu-ray is I've never found a need for it, I've never actually used a blu-ray disk in the the drive I got for my PC (I either put things on flash drives or portable hard drives) I suppose if I bought lots of movies it'd be different, but even then the few movies we do buy are still DVDs, since the parents don't have a blu-ray player yet. [QUOTE=The Baconator;38236810]... The Blu-Ray format has better audio quality and little better video quality than iTunes HD. A blu-ray film can be 20GB...Apple is shitting themselves if they think we don't need discs to hold all that, as if most people have hard drives with several TB. [B]This is just to shove their inferior format down consumer's throats[/B][/QUOTE] DVD?

people still watch movies on discs? what is this? 2001? [editline]30th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=01271;38255046]I'd agree with apple if not for startup discs and how I'd have to drive 400KM or buy an external drive to reinstall OSX if I bricked my laptop here. If they sold OSX as a flash drive it'd be different. Also the last time I used my disc drive was 2 months ago when I made a disc for someone, the time before that was in 2011 and before that was installing starcraft 2 when it came out; this drive's not that useful for everyday use otherwise.[/QUOTE] as of 10.7 there is a recovery mode that can download os x and reinstall it for you