• North Korea Says it can Take Out Manhattan with a Single Hydrogen Bomb
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[QUOTE=plokoon9619;49925358]What's going to happen North Korea when Trump is elected? We all know Trump will respond to their dickwaving. I can see him encouraging the regime to actually do something so he can kick their ass. He will piss off Kim.[/QUOTE] We don't want anyone trying anything.
[QUOTE=plokoon9619;49925358]What's going to happen North Korea when Trump is elected? We all know Trump will respond to their dickwaving. I can see him encouraging the regime to actually do something so he can kick their ass. He will piss off Kim.[/QUOTE] We must surround north Korea with a giant sea wall, we will force the Chinese to pay for it.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;49925389]Because I value the existence of South Korea's unique culture more than I value New York's. l.[/QUOTE] Holy fuck what the shit?
[QUOTE=soulharvester;49925389]Because I value the existence of South Korea's unique culture more than I value New York's. There's also my understanding that an ICBM launched at NY is infinitely less likely to detonate on target than one launched at Seoul.[/QUOTE] Do you value human life in that geographical location than you do New York? I'm genuinely curious. I can sympathize with with feeling a stronger amount of sympathy towards the South Koreans though; must be terrible being that close to NK. NY simply doesn't have the threat of distance relative to South Korea.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;49925418]Holy fuck what the shit?[/QUOTE] [url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem[/url] Just replace people with places and the likely Hood of the train being blown up in one case.
What if they could deliver by other means, they have a fair amount of submarines, is getting the bomb near the coast something they could do?
[QUOTE=soulharvester;49925443][URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem[/URL] Just replace people with places and the likely Hood of the train being blown up in one case.[/QUOTE] Don't try and pull logic into what you just said for there is no logic to what you just said. Using culture to place one population over another is at best pretentious and at worst dangerous
[QUOTE=soulharvester;49925288]I'd personally rather them nuke NY than Seoul.[/QUOTE] Okay, it'd be shitty either way, but if they fucking nuked New York City, the repercussions of that act would be unbelievable. Considering it houses the HQ of the UN. And Wall Street. And other shit thats just a little teensy bit important to... Uh... society.
not to mention that if a nuke landed in NY it would kill a significantly higher number of people then if a nuke hit Seoul.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;49925418]Holy fuck what the shit?[/QUOTE] don't mind him, clearly a weaboo edit: 'koreaboo'*
Like, if New York were destroyed completely in a nuclear strike, the world would stop. You could be a farmer living in a field of Kansas who has little contact with industry or urban environments and almost certainly feel the shockwave that would cause. Metaphorically, not literally.
Global Economics would be hit pretty significantly.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;49925057]NK needs to quit dickwaving already.[/QUOTE] Dickwaving is the only reason the NK regime still exists. They've brainwashed their populace into fearing the Western boogeyman, so they have to rattle some cages to keep up the appearance that they're resolutely fighting a good vs. evil struggle. Meanwhile, they would gain nothing from carrying out any proposed threat because if they let a nuke fly, they'd maybe hit a big population center and cause serious issues, but the rest of the world would recover whereas they would no longer exist.
[QUOTE=OvB;49925527]Global Economics would be hit pretty significantly.[/QUOTE] "Pretty significantly" is an understatement.
[QUOTE=ThePunisher1;49925458]What if they could deliver by other means, they have a fair amount of submarines, is getting the bomb near the coast something they could do?[/QUOTE] It's north Korea, they aren't going to be able to miniaturize technology to the point that they can develop and deploy a missile sub anywhere near soon. [QUOTE=myng;49925505]don't mind him, clearly a weaboo[/QUOTE] You might be on to something there. [QUOTE=Kyle902;49925460]Don't try and pull logic into what you just said for there is no logic to what you just said. Using culture to place one population over another is at best pretentious and at worst dangerous[/QUOTE] I'm not advocating a desire to see a city of people actually get nuked, but if north Korea does make the attempt I do have preferences for where it might be sent, and among these two options I'd prefer Seoul not be targeted. Also I don't agree with you at all about not being able to assign cultures or groups of people different values. We do it literally all the time, you just disagree with how I've applied that in this instance. If you had a chance to detonate an ICBM in Pyongyang before it launched, destroying Pyongyang, or letting it get launched at Seoul, in pretty sure you, and most people, would intervene. I know it's not the same, but the process is.
Im really curious How long will it be until they end up nuking themselves? It doesn't seem impossible.
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[QUOTE=Electrocuter;49925106]Lol. The Tsar Bomba, the USSR's most powerful Hydrogen bomb, was too heavy for any plane or ICBM to carry it far enough for it to be of any use. There's no way these shitheads can carry an even more powerful device all the way to America or even get it off the launch pad when they don't even have decent ICBM tech.[/QUOTE] Glorious leader kim jong un will carry it himself.
Well the west could make just about the entirety of NK a wasteland in a couple of hours, you don't see us brag about it
eeeh am not too worried. even if they would fire it they don't have enough fuel to manhatten. ...mayby to texas.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;49925106]Lol. The Tsar Bomba, the USSR's most powerful Hydrogen bomb, was too heavy for any plane or ICBM to carry it far enough for it to be of any use. There's no way these shitheads can carry an even more powerful device all the way to America or even get it off the launch pad when they don't even have decent ICBM tech.[/QUOTE] they designed it around 100mt? they took 50 out so they could actually test it
[QUOTE=seoulharvester;49925575] I'm not advocating a desire to see a city of people actually get nuked, but if north Korea does make the attempt I do have preferences for where it might be sent, and among these two options I'd prefer Seoul not be targeted. Also I don't agree with you at all about not being able to assign cultures or groups of people different values. We do it literally all the time, you just disagree with how I've applied that in this instance. If you had a chance to detonate an ICBM in Pyongyang before it launched, destroying Pyongyang, or letting it get launched at Seoul, in pretty sure you, and most people, would intervene. I know it's not the same, but the process is.[/QUOTE] in your example NK is a threat, which isn't the case for NY or Seoul. That's a terrible analogy.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;49925575] Also I don't agree with you at all about not being able to assign cultures or groups of people different values. We do it literally all the time, you just disagree with how I've applied that in this instance. If you had a chance to detonate an ICBM in Pyongyang before it launched, destroying Pyongyang, or letting it get launched at Seoul, in pretty sure you, and most people, would intervene. I know it's not the same, but the process is.[/QUOTE] I feel there's a bit of a difference between saving people from an impending attack and saying you would want somewhere else to be attacked because you value the people/culture more. The first is much more proactive and would save, in this case, NY and Seoul.
[QUOTE=CoixNiro;49925847]in your example NK is a threat, which isn't the case for NY or Seoul. That's a terrible analogy.[/QUOTE] The concept is based on a scenario in which a decision must be made on whether or not one group got destroyed over another. He called the concept of putting one group over another pretentious and dangerous, which is wrong. It depends on the context, which is important, that is part of the point I was making. Regardless it was just a personal opinion, not like I have any actual influence on what North Korea is going to do, even if it did make my toxx easier.
[QUOTE=sa2fan;49925833]they designed it around 100mt? they took 50 out so they could actually test it[/QUOTE] Yeah, they didn't do 100MT because it would be so powerful that the plane that dropped it would have no chance to escape it, even with parachutes on the bomb.
The only feasible delivery system they have for any ordnance to New York right now is to suicidally sail a submarine into the harbour (and good luck finding places to refuel the sub on the way flying with a North Korean flag) and set off whatever you've got aboard. Sure, you could fit a nasty H-bomb aboard a decent sized submarine. But even there they don't really have the range or capability to reach NYC. Maybe the west coast, but not the long trip to the East coast without using the Panama canal.
I wouldn't be surprised if we still store biological weapons that would make the fucking population wish they were nuked. I bet you we have developed shit that is capable of wiping out entire countries let alone cities, probably undetectable too.
[QUOTE=soulharvester;49925575]It's north Korea, they aren't going to be able to miniaturize technology to the point that they can develop and deploy a missile sub anywhere near soon. You might be on to something there. I'm not advocating a desire to see a city of people actually get nuked, but if north Korea does make the attempt I do have preferences for where it might be sent, and among these two options I'd prefer Seoul not be targeted. Also I don't agree with you at all about not being able to assign cultures or groups of people different values. We do it literally all the time, you just disagree with how I've applied that in this instance. If you had a chance to detonate an ICBM in Pyongyang before it launched, destroying Pyongyang, or letting it get launched at Seoul, in pretty sure you, and most people, would intervene. I know it's not the same, but the process is.[/QUOTE] They wouldn't have to launch a rocket, they could just detonate the sub near the target.
oh what i wouldn't give to watch this fat little fuck choke on a brick of uranium
Oh yeah of all targets in the world surely it'd be best to target the one with little to no military function but with global gold storage. Seriously, if they nuked Manhattan then it'd be world war with everyone against NK.
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