• North Korea Says it can Take Out Manhattan with a Single Hydrogen Bomb
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I wonder if Kim is aware that the Tsar Bomb was detonated at just over half of its true capacity because of fears that the full power of the weapon would destabilize the climate itself, not to mention obliterate the drop aircraft.
Don't you just want to hit them with a nuke so they would stop dick waving already. It's like that asshole in the bar constantly going "I'm gonna punch you in the face real hard you faggot" that you just one-punch K.O. for too much noise.
[QUOTE=TestECull;49926524]I wonder if Kim is aware that the Tsar Bomb was detonated at just over half of its true capacity because of fears that the full power of the weapon would destabilize the climate itself, not to mention obliterate the drop aircraft.[/QUOTE] im sure they have double the power of the tsar bomba
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;49925093]Does Kim know that America can make South Korea an island with the ordinance we have? It's like a tick trying to pick a fight with a Tiger.[/QUOTE] Tick would win because Tiger would never notice it.
Dick waving is the last thing they should be doing if they want China to even consider backing them ever again.
[QUOTE=ThePunisher1;49925458]What if they could deliver by other means, they have a fair amount of submarines, is getting the bomb near the coast something they could do?[/QUOTE] They have enough of a problem shrinking a warhead down to fit on an ICBM, I doubt they could make one fit on a SLBM.
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;49925456]Hahahahaha. We spend trillions on our military and you don't think we can intercept a single ICBM?[/QUOTE] Uh, we can intercept nuclear missiles?
[QUOTE=Medevila;49925986]IIRC they orbited but weren't able to communicate with them (spin was erratic?)[/QUOTE] Supposedly a solar panel on their attempt at a satellite failed to deploy; I'm not surprised that their shoddy craftsmanship on a satellite or missile would doom it in the end. It's like watching early Soviet Space Race-era testing, but with even worse rockets/missiles, a shittier nation in charge (than the USSR), and with even more failures. On the subject of potentially intercepting an ICBM (should NK ever develop a missile capable of functioning as one), the U.S. and other allied nations have ABM systems and other weapons that could easily take out a primitive ICBM or comparable missile while in its boost stage, where the missile is actively propelling itself through the atmosphere to space/high altitude, and is easiest to detect and target. On top of said ABM systems, there's experimental gear like missile defense lasers and such that will likely see field use quite soon, making it even less likely that a potential North Korean ICBM/Short-Range Ballistic Missile attack would succeed in hitting its target.
[QUOTE=OvB;49925231]The last two flights of their orbital rocket have successfullyput satellites into orbit. That's not really a valid joke anymore. Their biggest limiting factor isn't delivery, it's miniaturization.[/QUOTE] What happens once NK gets nuking capabilities? It's clearly an invevitability, what's stopping them from nuking a country day 1 they get access?
[QUOTE=kill3r;49927202]What happens once NK gets nuking capabilities? It's clearly an invevitability, what's stopping them from nuking a country day 1 they get access?[/QUOTE] The fact that they've already got them and that they'd be a glass bowl the instant they tried to use them.
Honestly even if north korea was to have a missile capable of hitting the mainland US I'd say we'd have a pretty damned good shot at shooting it down before it got close.
[QUOTE=kill3r;49927202]What happens once NK gets nuking capabilities? It's clearly an invevitability, what's stopping them from nuking a country day 1 they get access?[/QUOTE] If they even attempt a launch (without even a nuclear warhead mounted) towards a friendly nation, they'd get blitzed nearly instantly by SK+US/Allied forces and the missile (nuclear or conventional warhead(s)) would likely be intercepted by advanced ABM/missile defense systems. That is, of course, provided that they don't just lob it across the border or detonate it right on the DMZ.
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;49927115]Uh, we can intercept nuclear missiles?[/QUOTE] Yes?
[QUOTE=Medevila;49925986]IIRC they orbited but weren't able to communicate with them (spin was erratic?)[/QUOTE] Well if your goal is to test launching warheads, satellite functionality doesn't mean as much as accurate orbital insertion does. If they can put an object where they want it on orbit, they can land a nuke where they want it on a suborbital trajectory.
Kim's been playing way too much MGS2. All he needs is an exoskeletal combat suit with tentacles, and a bunch of mechs aboard a giant ship. Which I'm very sure he has ofc. edit: oh and a bisexual vampire
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;49928003]Kim's been playing way too much MGS2. All he needs is an exoskeletal combat suit with tentacles, and a bunch of mechs aboard a giant ship. Which I'm very sure he has ofc. edit: oh and a bisexual vampire[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/YIRjGbZ.jpg[/IMG] [I]The data of life is transferred from parent to child. That's how it works. But we have no heirs, no legacy. Cloned from our father, with the ability to reproduce conveniently engineered out. What is our legacy if we cannot pass the torch? [/I]
Why do we all entertain the propaganda of the NK regime as if it's reality? Does anyone honestly believe that NK wants to nuke south korea or the united states? NK uses volatility as a defense mechanism. The more sanctions, the more isolation, the more starvation, the longer the regime stays. If NK can keep everyone away, they can resist foreign media influence which might destabilize the regime. NK has no intentions to communicate with the outside world because those in charge of the nukes are sitting pretty while their countrymen starve to death.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;49925207] That's not something to brag about.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I don't see how NK can make itself look like the victim when it's threatening (even if it's purely bullshitting) to unleash a horrific weapon that would undoubtedly murder thousands of unrelated civilians. Sounds like someone's been playing MGS2. [B]EDIT:[/B] God-dammit, someone beat me to it :v: Does this mean we get to see Kim Jong-il resurrected via a transplanted arm?
[QUOTE=FinalHunter;49925456]Hahahahaha. We spend trillions on our military and you don't think we can intercept a single ICBM?[/QUOTE] I know you can intercept ICBMs, I just didn't think you could intercept them while they're in space. But I was wrong.
[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;49928857][I]The data of life is transferred from parent to child. That's how it works. But we have no heirs, no legacy. Cloned from our father, with the ability to reproduce conveniently engineered out. What is our legacy if we cannot pass the torch? [/I][/QUOTE] OH COME ON, IT EVEN FITS HIM PERFECTLY... Even the text kind of fits him because he totally got the metaphorical torch from his father!...
[QUOTE=Kljunas;49931168]I know you can intercept ICBMs, I just didn't think you could intercept them while they're in space. But I was wrong.[/QUOTE] There are anti satellite missiles, I would assume the same principle applies to sub orbital ICBM´s. But a freefall/launch intercept would be more likely.
But we all know that North Korea doesn't even have enough firepower to blow the fat off of Kim's body.
I doubt NK would risk getting wiped off the map by attacking us or anyone else with a nuke. Then again these guys are fucking morons so..
[QUOTE=Richardroth;49938916]I doubt NK would risk getting wiped off the map by attacking us or anyone else with a nuke. Then again these guys are fucking morons so..[/QUOTE] That's not the point. The point is that if NK ever gains the capability to attack US cities with nuclear weapons, that will eliminate any chance of a US led or backed invasion. They're already there in a basic sense, as it's estimated that they have around a dozen weapons so far. That pretty much negates any chance that they will be invaded by anyone.
I'm more terrified about what they will do with the technology, they shared and co developed part of their nuclear program way back with Syria until Israel caught onto it and stomped it out. Imagine how much of a shit storm Syria would be with nukes right now.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;49925460]Don't try and pull logic into what you just said for there is no logic to what you just said. Using culture to place one population over another is at best pretentious and at worst dangerous[/QUOTE] There's also the fact that SK has 6 times the population of new york It'd be less damaging to the world if new York disappeared than south korea
[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;49947180]There's also the fact that SK has 6 times the population of new york It'd be less damaging to the world if new York disappeared than south korea[/QUOTE] He said Seoul.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;49949147]He said Seoul.[/QUOTE] Eh, it still has more people in it than NYC. 10mil vs 8.4mil. Though to say it would be less damaging to the world if NYC was hit is factually false.
[QUOTE=Da Bomb76;49938933]That's not the point. The point is that if NK ever gains the capability to attack US cities with nuclear weapons, that will eliminate any chance of a US led or backed invasion. They're already there in a basic sense, as it's estimated that they have around a dozen weapons so far. That pretty much negates any chance that they will be invaded by anyone.[/QUOTE] The depressing thing is that we spent so much time ridiculing and ignoring them that they had sufficient time to become a serious threat, as some predicted would inevitably happen.
[QUOTE=Primigenes;49949577]Why did you even post this.[/QUOTE] Because It was a thought that popped into my mind and I like posting my unpopular opinions so that I can defend them sometimes? [QUOTE=Primigenes;49949577]no one fucking asked you to choose[/QUOTE] So? It's an opinion, I'm not literally sitting in Kim's office advocating for why NYC is a better choice than the most obvious target for NK aggression. If NK Nukes SK, SK's gone, that culture's never coming back if it gets destroyed, if NYC does, we'd rebuild/replace it, probably.
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